Is the Catholic Church Today Part of Jesus' Body?

[Daniel Veler]

One must understand the word Catholic mean universal. Which implies universal church. When you do any research concerning the Roman Catholic Church you’ll find false teachings that have entered into it. In reality most denominations today have introduced false teachings. With the Roman Catholic Church down through the years you can see the following:
The facts of history show that gradually, over several hundred years, the early church, and especially the church in Rome added many man-made traditions to the simple truth of Christianity. By the third century, they were baptizing babies and worshipping at the graves of "saints." By the fifth century the Catholic Church accepted Original Sin and Transubstantiation. Eventually, the Catholic Church invented false teachings and practices such as the Immaculate Conception of Mary, Purgatory, indulgences, celibate priests papal infallibility and the like. Some of these are unbiblical traditions, others are false doctrines.

If you read the letters written in Revelation you can see where many denominations have erred.

 

[Riverwalker]

I have yet to see any aspect of Roman Catholicism which displays the Truth of Jesus' Gospel.

1.) They require works and membership for supposed salvation.
2.) They call a man "father" in disobedience of Jesus' Command not to do so.
3.) The "pope" is a Freemason, aligned with other Freemasons, all displaying occult hand signs.
4.) The "pope" claims to be "the vicar of Christ," yet he personally demonstrates nothing of Jesus.
5.) The Jesuits are committed to geopolitical subversion in all of the World's recorded modern history.
6.) The "pope" endeavors to have approval and alliance with all of mankind, including pagan religions. Jesus was the opposite.
7.) The "pope" fails to identify paranormal UFO activity as being demonic, and states they are arriving from the far Cosmos as "visitors" and "brothers."

While the RCC has surrounded itself with man made tradition, at their very core....they are Christian

1. Actually they have stated that salvation is available outside of the church
2. Meh not really an issue in the original language
3. prove it
4. When you are done Jesus would like his seat back
5. Yep men can screw things up
6. The pope and the church is not into ecumentalism, but they do engage all, as did Jesus
7. The crazy train has just jumped the track

 

[amadeus]

Share your opinion about how Catholicism brings anyone to spiritual rebirth.

I have not been an active formal member of the Catholic Church in more than 50 years, but I still have a testimonies of how priests and nuns guided me toward spiritual rebirth. Are you God or His appointed inquisitor sent here by Him at harvest time? If not, why are you doing what you are doing? Is this God's agenda or your own? You need not answer of course, but what kind of answers are you really expecting to receive?

"Every way of a man is right in his own eyes: but the LORD pondereth the hearts." Prov. 21:2

 

[BreadOfLife]

I have yet to see any aspect of Roman Catholicism which displays the Truth of Jesus' Gospel.

1.) They require works and membership for supposed salvation.
2.) They call a man "father" in disobedience of Jesus' Command not to do so.
3.) The "pope" is a Freemason, aligned with other Freemasons, all displaying occult hand signs.
4.) The "pope" claims to be "the vicar of Christ," yet he personally demonstrates nothing of Jesus.
5.) The Jesuits are committed to geopolitical subversion in all of the World's recorded modern history.
6.) The "pope" endeavors to have approval and alliance with all of mankind, including pagan religions. Jesus was the opposite.
7.) The "pope" fails to identify paranormal UFO activity as being demonic, and states they are arriving from the far Cosmos as "visitors" and "brothers."

Error is forever offended when inconvenient truth is pointed out.
Get rid of him was the cry, we want Barabbas

And it it is these displays of abject ignorance that keep me here.
I can't decide which one of you is the more ignorant . . .

Gee - such an idiotic premise - where to begin??
Let's just go in numerical order:

1. Baptism is the only "work" required for membership in the Catholic Church (Matt. 29:19, Mark 16:16, Acts 2:38).
2. Jesus called men "Father" (Matt. 19:5, Mark 10:7, John 8:56). So did Paul (Rom. 9:10, 1 Cor. 4:14–15, Eph. 5:31).
3. Show me documented proof that the Pope is a "Freemason". Freemasons don't allow Catholics in their ranks, Einstein.
4. This one is a matter of opinion.
5. Once again, shoe mw PROOF that the Society of Jesus is on of mission "geopolitical subversion". You've been reading too many Jack Chick tracts . . .
6. Show me PROOF of the the Pope "endeavoring" to seek "approval and alliance" with paganism.
7. The Pope doesn't have an official position on UFO's, Einstein.

Do your homework . . .

 

[Jacob28]

Jacob only listed 7 points. Only 7. Yet not one of them did you attempt to actually address. Are you also a Jesuit?

Would "addressing" them pretend that they occurred for good reasons? The Catholics slaughtered the Albigensians in France. Correct?

 

[Jacob28]

Why dwell on the past? Aren't you meant to forgive and let go?

Did you have family members tortured in the Catholic Inquisition? Maybe not?

 

[Jacob28]

It is Jesus Christ who gives us a new life when we accept Him into our lives.

Many Believers have found, believed and accepted Jesus in their lives at different stages and different places. There are planters and there are waterers, who are we to say that God must use a Pentecostal to tell another about Jesus, who are we to say that God must use a Baptist to lead another to Jesus?

God will use whatever vessel(s) He chooses, God will use the way He chooses to reach that person, and yes that may even be through a Nun or a Priest, and yes it could even also be directly from Jesus Himself in a dream or vision.

Does God place the righteousness of Jesus upon Roman Catholicism?

 

[amigo de christo]

If we love them we would try and help them to come out of that place .
We should also remember the warning that God Himself gave to those churches .
He rebuked one for simply allowing a false one to teach and to seduce the people .
Our desire should be for the good of the people . Thus we must point them away from error and toward the truth alone .

 

[Jacob28]

Would you not agree that no body of believers as a whole will be named as "The Body of Christ" [or even a part of the Body of Christ] correctly unless every member of that body is a member of the Body of Christ?

I know of no group in which every member is likely to qualify. Do you? On the other hand, I know some Catholics personally who as I see them are likely to be members of the Body of Christ. But then who am I to judge or who are you?

Should we condemn an entire group because we disagree with all, most or many of the policies, beliefs, dogmas, etc. the group as a whole embraces as the best way to go with God? Does every person in every group, be it Protestant or Catholic or Other, always agree with or follow absolutely everything set forth by his own group?

Apostle Paul states in 1 Cor. 5:12 Believers are to judge those in the Church, but not those outside. Are Roman Catholicism and their popes inside or outside of the Body of Christ?

 

[Jacob28]

Would you not agree that no body of believers as a whole will be named as "The Body of Christ" [or even a part of the Body of Christ] correctly unless every member of that body is a member of the Body of Christ?

I know of no group in which every member is likely to qualify. Do you? On the other hand, I know some Catholics personally who as I see them are likely to be members of the Body of Christ. But then who am I to judge or who are you?

Should we condemn an entire group because we disagree with all, most or many of the policies, beliefs, dogmas, etc. the group as a whole embraces as the best way to go with God? Does every person in every group, be it Protestant or Catholic or Other, always agree with or follow absolutely everything set forth by his own group?

Do Catholics depend upon good works and church membership for righteousness before God? Yes? No?

 

[Jacob28]

Item 1 is easily addressed. Since most of us need good works to for God to consider saving us. Without them we get cast into the lake of fire. And that's what the bible teaches.

Item 2 I agree with. It is not right for the Catholic church to call anyone Father.

The rest of the items appear me to be based on heresay and judging. So I would be careful not to judge others.

Peace and Love,

Devin

The Bible does not teach good works will keep anyone from Hell.

There is no peace or love in the falsehood of good works. There is the only damnation.

 

[Jacob28]

I have not been an active formal member of the Catholic Church in more than 50 years, but I still have a testimonies of how priests and nuns guided me toward spiritual rebirth. Are you God or His appointed inquisitor sent here by Him at harvest time? If not, why are you doing what you are doing? It this God's agenda or your own? You need not answer of course, but what kind of answers are you really expecting to receive?

"Every way of a man is right in his own eyes: but the LORD pondereth the hearts." Prov. 21:2

The hearts of the Vatican are for Satan. The pope is a Freemason.

 

[Jacob28]

Indeed!
Those questions could be applied to a great many groups and people... in churches or not. Is it not fortunate for all who do sincerely love God, in spite of differences, that it is not any such men who will render final judgement for or against them instead of God and His Word?

The Vatican's armies did what to those who had their own beliefs in disagreement with the pope?

Speak truth.

 

[Jacob28]

I agree, I was Mormon for 10 years and while I didn't fully accept their teachings there were teachings which were good. And Jesus taught me instead in the right way to honor him. I was filled with the Holy Spirit because of it. And that is a saving spirit.

Why is the spirit strong among the Mormon faith? That is because Jesus said he will be among the sinners, the ill. Those that are not ill need no doctor. The spirit was with me correcting the teachings that were presented so that I didn't fall ill.

Do the Mormons remain ill and sick, as they try to teach Jesus is the brother of Satan?

 

[dev553344]

The Bible does not teach good works will keep anyone from Hell.

There is no peace or love in the falsehood of good works. There is the only damnation.

Matthew 25:31-46

 

[Jacob28]

I have not been an active formal member of the Catholic Church in more than 50 years, but I still have a testimonies of how priests and nuns guided me toward spiritual rebirth. Are you God or His appointed inquisitor sent here by Him at harvest time? If not, why are you doing what you are doing? It this God's agenda or your own? You need not answer of course, but what kind of answers are you really expecting to receive?

"Every way of a man is right in his own eyes: but the LORD pondereth the hearts." Prov. 21:2

What do active Catholics assume they are doing?

 

[dev553344]

Do the Mormons remain ill and sick, as they try to teach Jesus is the brother of Satan?

No, mormons get ill thinking they'll become gods.

 

[Jacob28]

If we love them we would try and help them to come out of that place .
We should also remember the warning that God Himself gave to those churches .
He rebuked one for simply allowing a false one to teach and to seduce the people .
Our desire should be for the good of the people . Thus we must point them away from error and toward the truth alone .

Tell us how you personally point the Catholics away from error.

 

[amigo de christo]

Apostle Paul states in 1 Cor. 5:12 Believers are to judge those in the Church, but not those outside. Are Roman Catholicism and their popes inside or outside of the Body of Christ?

Its very evident by their fruits they are outside . This is why we must do all to help anyone trapped in that place .
God desires none to perish , we , having His Spirit should be unctioned the same thing .
That place is very deadly . And i am not saying this to be mean at all . IT , like quite a few other places
are very dangerous to the souls of those trapped within those walls and doctrines .
This generation is fast becoming of the mindset that all places are fine , or fine enough . And that
we ought to just find a way to get along . But they forget
and have forgotten what even Christ told those churches from above .
HE warned them about entertaining false doctrine . HE also warned one for simply allowing a false prophetess to teach and to seduce the people .
Rome is dangerous . This should be so simple to see and yet due to the many years of this unity stuff and lets find common ground
Most can no longer see the dangers of the RCC , let alone even Mormonism and other places .
We are being decieved by even our own protestant leaders . They too are lining us right up wtih Rome and other places .
Teaching us to be as one and find common ground and doctrine is getting kicked out the door . ITS bad news .
I love you all my friends . I truly love you all . This is why i am doing all i can to warn anyone and to also just point to Christ
and all biblical sound doctrine .

 

[Jacob28]

Millions of slaughtered people who did not agree with Protestantism

So, you do agree the Catholics imitate the sins of others, and they have no superior position.