Let's Talk About Socialism and Marxism

[Ziggy]

Fact is that all people are racist to some degree and all people are prejudice to some degree as it's in our DNA and if someone says that they are not, well that's a bold faced lie.

I must be a liar then according to your conclusion.
You falling for the Critical Race Theory too are ya?
I never been racist to any degree. I have no prejudices.
I accept people for who they are, good or bad based on character.
Not skin color or nationality or wealth..
CRT is a Lie and you would do well to remove yourself from it quickly.

God Bless
Hugs

 

[Michael1985]

That has to be sarcasm right?
That's why there are so many "Mom n Pop" farmers, and small town bankers, and grocery stores around these days....Right?

This "one worldism" has been going on a lot longer then many people think. (lobster in the pot).
Only reason they've come out of hiding, so to speak, is because of people who speak Truth to forces!

That?, and because satan got the memo, that his time is short!

The Mom n Pop farmers and small town bankers you refer to are still capitalists...

 

[Ziggy]

Hey you guys coming on the road trip??
CB Camp Starts Tomorrow!!! :D (Luggage Thread)

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

I must be a liar then according to your conclusion.
You falling for the Critical Race Theory too are ya?
I never been racist to any degree. I have no prejudices.
I accept people for who they are, good or bad based on character.
Not skin color or nationality or wealth..
CRT is a Lie and you would do well to remove yourself from it quickly.

God Bless
Hugs

I do not know what CRT is about.

Fact is that all people are under the stain of Original sin, so this has to do with that one is under delusions of this world in fact, but for they who are truly born again can see the delusions for what they are, for they are the people of God, so the delusions are exposed, so then they are not blind to the workings of Sin of this world.

The Bible never says anything about Racism is a problem, it's not even on the list of commandments.
But now in the last say 20 years this racism nonsense has ramped up and taken pride in becoming the first commandment above all by far, have a look around you and see all the atheist who support such nonsense so religiously that one would not be wrong in thinking that they are just like the Nazis were in ranting and raving about such a subject. You must not ! etc etc way of dealing with issues, but were is this coming from ? lies !

Racial differences are facts, they don't gel into one thing, just because they will such does not make it so. We is all the same ? well no we are not clearly in fact. such are under delusions ?

You know what I do not respect the people in India for good reasons in general that I do not like with their culture, I do not want their culture here because I don't want people treated like that here. but that's not to say it's because of their race or to do with everyone of them, I am sure their are many good ones who I respect, my sister had a Indian boy friend back in the 70's and I got on with him fine, his dad was a RC Priest and fact is he did not want to live in India, no way did he want to go back and he openly did not respect many types of Indians and the Pakistan people he and his whole family really hated. he was proud of being an Indian first and foremost openly, I respect his views to his own opinions.
Many people in Australia really hate Americans as well, talk to any lefty and out flows all the BS ranting's full on. why well it's the left propaganda machine that has been at it from the 60's and the hard core were in love with communist Russia, but the leadership had to hide that they were socialist until about the 1990's.
The Socialist always have to lie or play games with delusions full on creating deceptions to further their goals, if they were truly open with their plans they would be exposed for the degenerate devils that they truly are. so they make up stupid nonsense angles on the topic of racism, so that they have bastardised the word, so now people think that one who expresses the truth can not do so because such is made taboo. that's how socialist roll, by demanding and destroying freedom of speech because such will expose them of there real intent to enslave you all.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

There are issues that should be dealt with in a totally open way with race relations and never sweeping issues under the carpet because all that such truly does is makes it all fester for the future becoming like a cancer.
If there is a problem one has to work it out and not be all one sided.
Race relations is a serious matter and should not be played with by ignorant fools with taboos. such only empowers the idiots on both sides.
Socialism will not make things better because it's all founded on lies. it's a Mans works program that is totally devoid of God.

It's about Truth and Lies but people can not handle the truth nowadays, Race is a serious matter and such should not be played with by simpletons who want to be ignorant or dismissive of the issues.

Being racial does not mean prejudice. having knowledge of racial issues is not a Sin, but in this age such has become a mortal sin to the ones who idolise the Political Correct gods. All people are not the same in fact and exposing the differences is not a sin, nowadays the socialist Satanist have even bastardise the difference between a boy and a girl, yet the PC Mob are progressing to bastardise all such that's their way, to create total delusions and shut anyone up who speaks up about the issue.

Some total fool nowadays will say that some boy is now a girl ! well in fact that's totally impossible, so why do they say such things nowadays, or even demand such. well it's called delusions ! one should never bow down to delusions ever because if one does you are not a worthy Christian. such a one is in danger of going to Hell. because they have no respect for the truth, because the truth is not in them.

As to God the key issue with Race is that you become one in Christ Jesus ! then all the issues will fade away in fact. it's only because they are not, is why we have issues in fact.

 

[Mosheli]

It sure as heck is others people money.
Any time I see a socialist government taking power my income taxes increase.
Up to a point where I almost pay 50% of my income to these socialist coffers so they can throw more around to the lazy crowds.
Just yesterday I talked to a Chinese restaurant owner who cannot open the restaurant because the servers are still getting "covid money" from the government and refuse to come back to work. Prime example how socialist governments operate.

Not to mention all the other garbage such as paid abortions, sex change surgeries and all the rest of it.

I agree with you on a certain amount of things you say about purely "socialist" governments, but you are taking it too far and wrongly implying all "socialism" is bad/wrong (and I wasn't talking purely "socialist" government, and not all "socialism" is communism either).
Some taxes are always necessary. Every common body/undergoing always has to have a source of funding whether it is tithes, taxes/rates, subscription/fees, donations. These taxes are supposed to go to the common good including yourself. If you go scraping all taxes they are only replaced by line charges, user pays etc which only go into the pockets of shareholders so in essence you are still paying (but oh no no one ever complains about this only ever bashes taxes). Where the problem comes is when taxes are wasted on things they are not supposed to be like mass unemployment, excessive MPs salaries, etc, resulting in too high taxes (under what you call "socialism"). People would ot mind so much if the taxes weren't being wasted and spent on things they aren't supposed to be, and if they were not too high. High taxes can be remedied by fixing the problems the taxes are being wasted on like fixing the cause of mass unemployment, etc. And under a Social Credit system high taxes are also not necessary because all things that can pay the money back would be covered by Credit, and taxes only cover necessary things that can't pay it back. I agree with you about abortions and sex change operations etc, but that doesn't mean all "social" and all taxes are wrong.
(I'm not sure I believe you that your pay upto 50 percent of all your income, but I would agree that that is way too excessive.)
So in summary I agree that a purely "socialist"/communist system/government has faults, but not all "socialism" is bad but some is right/necessary and there must be a balance of national and social. Neither totally scraping taxes or too low taxes, nor too high taxes, but only what taxes are necessary and used for what they are supposed to be.
Not all the "crowds" are "lazy", and you can't bash "lazy crowds" if you don't also bash shareholders who brag they "don't work but their money works for them". The crowds didn't cause mass unemployment.
When I replied to "other peoples money" I didn't have in mind just taxes. Alot of more wealthy people are making money in dishonest or unfair excessive ways, while others have too low wages etc.

 

[mailmandan]

The Lessons of Czechoslovakia

How Voting For Socialism Caused Czechoslovakia 40 Years Of Misery

 

[Ziggy]

There are issues that should be dealt with in a totally open way with race relations and never sweeping issues under the carpet because all that such truly does is makes it all fester for the future becoming like a cancer.
If there is a problem one has to work it out and not be all one sided.
Race relations is a serious matter and should not be played with by ignorant fools with taboos. such only empowers the idiots on both sides.
Socialism will not make things better because it's all founded on lies. it's a Mans works program that is totally devoid of God.

It's about Truth and Lies but people can not handle the truth nowadays, Race is a serious matter and such should not be played with by simpletons who want to be ignorant or dismissive of the issues.

Being racial does not mean prejudice. having knowledge of racial issues is not a Sin, but in this age such has become a mortal sin to the ones who idolise the Political Correct gods. All people are not the same in fact and exposing the differences is not a sin, nowadays the socialist Satanist have even bastardise the difference between a boy and a girl, yet the PC Mob are progressing to bastardise all such that's their way, to create total delusions and shut anyone up who speaks up about the issue.

Some total fool nowadays will say that some boy is now a girl ! well in fact that's totally impossible, so why do they say such things nowadays, or even demand such. well it's called delusions ! one should never bow down to delusions ever because if one does you are not a worthy Christian. such a one is in danger of going to Hell. because they have no respect for the truth, because the truth is not in them.

As to God the key issue with Race is that you become one in Christ Jesus ! then all the issues will fade away in fact. it's only because they are not, is why we have issues in fact.

I don't believe racism and prejudice is written in the DNA code.
I believe that is the Lie they are pushing.
The only motive they have for that is to divide and conquer all races.

Everyone has their own culture. From nations to the family dinner table. It's not about color. Unless people choose to make it about color.
I never looked at color and I grew up in the whitest racist town in America.
But I didn't let their bias's effect me.
And there are a lot of people in the world like me.

Critical Race Theory states that all people are inherently racist. There's is nothing you can do about it, it's in your DNA.
I disagree.
And I am proof..
Maybe I have a special DNA??
Maybe the God kind...

Anywhoo. I appreciate the feed back.
I agree with just about everything you wrote
except that one accusation.

If they had their way, they would have us all killing eachother based on color and not character.
It's part of their Agenda 2030 population control.
If viruses don't work....
These people are EVIL.
REAL EVIL

Hugs

 

[Enoch111]

Critical Race Theory states that all people are inherently racist.

What should be really shocking is that America's major corporations have bought this lie. But now Black racism is dominant and no one is talking about that. Also all the other ethnic groups in America are being ignored, as if the only lives that matter are black lives.

Which goes to show how well the Communists (inside and outside the USA) have managed to manipulate people. When a government flies BLM's flag it means that the government itself is illegally promoting racism, and all the officials should be charged with the many crimes they are committing.

 

[Ziggy]

What should be really shocking is that America's major corporations have bought this lie. But now Black racism is dominant and no one is talking about that. Also all the other ethnic groups in America are being ignored, as if the only lives that matter are black lives.

Which goes to show how well the Communists (inside and outside the USA) have managed to manipulate people. When a government flies BLM's flag it means that the government itself is illegally promoting racism, and all the officials should be charged with the many crimes they are committing.

So what do you think their motive is??

We have the most racist president in history supposedly running this country (into the ground)
And they were against the emancipation, against civil rights, for Jim Crow laws, for forced bussing and on and on.

I tell you what they are trying to do.
They are trying to make white people envious of "people of color" so that we will rise and fight them.
They want white people to attack black people, because "they" fear "them"
They are trying to get us to do the dirty work for them.

AND we're NOT falling for it.

The Black's are rising because the government is telling them we hate them.
They are acting out in kind of a self-defence mode. And you can't blame them.
And at the same time they are making whites fear by believing that black racism is rising.

It's a damn catch 22.

Honestly...
the only winning move is not to play.

Love IS the answer,
no matter how much "they" try to persuade you to hate.

Stay Focused on God and His Love.
And be aware of the devil's tactics at the same time.
Brush off that armour of God and wear it well.

God Bless
Hugs

 

[NayborBear]

The Mom n Pop farmers and small town bankers you refer to are still capitalists...

I was being sarcastic!
Because there are no longer many Mom and Pop farmers, nor small time bankers, or Mom and Pop stores.
As they got "swallowed up" by the "corporations."

 

[NayborBear]

So what do you think their motive is??

We have the most racist president in history supposedly running this country (into the ground)
And they were against the emancipation, against civil rights, for Jim Crow laws, for forced bussing and on and on.

I tell you what they are trying to do.
They are trying to make white people envious of "people of color" so that we will rise and fight them.
They want white people to attack black people, because "they" fear "them"
They are trying to get us to do the dirty work for them.

AND we're NOT falling for it.

The Black's are rising because the government is telling them we hate them.
They are acting out in kind of a self-defence mode. And you can't blame them.
And at the same time they are making whites fear by believing that black racism is rising.

It's a damn catch 22.

Honestly...
the only winning move is not to play.

Love IS the answer,
no matter how much "they" try to persuade you to hate.

Stay Focused on God and His Love.
And be aware of the devil's tactics at the same time.
Brush off that armour of God and wear it well.

God Bless
Hugs

There are a lot of blacks, browns, asains, and whites that are not buying into it!
Unfortunately? This doesn't get a whole lot of "coverage" by the MSM and other (ahem) news outlets, as PEACE doesn't sell as much as gaslighting conflicts!

 

[tsr]

Difference between Marxism and Socialism may be a bit difficult to understand to some. However, remember, that Marxism and Socialism are two systems. So, one can say that Marxism and Socialism are two kinds of systems that are to be understood as different when it comes to their concepts and ideologies. Marxism is more theoretical in nature whereas Socialism is more practical in nature. This is one of the main differences between Marxism and Socialism. Marxism has paved way for different ideologies such as Leninism and Maoism. Marxism speaks how a proletariat revolution can change the social structure.

Marxism is political in its concepts

Socialism is economic in its ideologies

 

[Ziggy]

There are a lot of blacks, browns, asains, and whites that are not buying into it!
Unfortunately? This doesn't get a whole lot of "coverage" by the MSM and other (ahem) news outlets, as PEACE doesn't sell as much as gaslighting conflicts!

That's why you have to turn off the tv.
That is their mode of infiltrating your soul.
They feed your mind with everything negative and hateful.
We are to be keeping our minds pure and loving.

If you can't turn off the tv, at least learn to discern between good and wholesome and evil and corruptive.
I can't watch tv anymore..
I don't find anything wholesome in it.

Thank You
Hugs

 

[Ziggy]

Difference between Marxism and Socialism may be a bit difficult to understand to some. However, remember, that Marxism and Socialism are two systems. So, one can say that Marxism and Socialism are two kinds of systems that are to be understood as different when it comes to their concepts and ideologies. Marxism is more theoretical in nature whereas Socialism is more practical in nature. This is one of the main differences between Marxism and Socialism. Marxism has paved way for different ideologies such as Leninism and Maoism. Marxism speaks how a proletariat revolution can change the social structure.

Marxism is political in its concepts

Socialism is economic in its ideologies

Kind of reminds me of the two horns that the beast has.

Rev 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

Like a lamb.. They are pushing this socialist/marxist movement as if it is a good thing.
The dragon part is: your going to fall in line with it, or else.

I'm just using that as an example.
This whole system run by the Beast (man) is doomed to fail.
Like the tower of Babel. It's getting too big for it's britches.

The house of cards is beginning to fall.
And it's not going to go willingly that's for sure.

Hugs

 

[NayborBear]

That's why you have to turn off the tv.
That is their mode of infiltrating your soul.
They feed your mind with everything negative and hateful.
We are to be keeping our minds pure and loving.

If you can't turn off the tv, at least learn to discern between good and wholesome and evil and corruptive.
I can't watch tv anymore..
I don't find anything wholesome in it.

Thank You
Hugs

Reminds me of a song where the words got changed around I once read in Mad Magazine 3 er 4 er mebbe even 5 decades ago!

(sang to the song "Downtown" by Petula clark)

"Ground Round"
When you eat meat but hate the meat that yer eating, then you've surely got
Ground Round
It's so unnerving when they're constantly serving in your eating spot
Ground Round
(chorus)
Now, it may be called chopped steak, a salisbury, or beef patty,
No matter what it's called it's always over cooked and fatty,
What can you do?
Sound off to your waiter there
And loudly pound on your table, stand up on your chair, and YELL
GROUND ROUND!
Piled on my plate I see
GROUND ROUND!
Always your conning me!
GROUND ROUND....
Why MUST it always be ground round, ground round

Seasoned with the right salt?
You get the picture!

 

[NayborBear]

Kind of reminds me of the two horns that the beast has.

Rev 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

Like a lamb.. They are pushing this socialist/marxist movement as if it is a good thing.
The dragon part is: your going to fall in line with it, or else.

I'm just using that as an example.
This whole system run by the Beast (man) is doomed to fail.
Like the tower of Babel. It's getting too big for it's britches.

The house of cards is beginning to fall.
And it's not going to go willingly that's for sure.

Hugs

(try this....had an oops!...lol)
I see it more as Daniels dream or "the beast" where it got larger and larger, but yet had feet of clay (man) whereas it could no longer hold itself up any longer....and this "digitalazation" of technology? although, not very heavy, could be the last straw that breaks the camel's back!

 

[Ziggy]

This artificial intelligence, this .. what's this new perversion called.. not new, but new to me..
can't find the terminology of blending viruses to make them more infectious..
anywhoooo..
Transhumanism.. inserting chips into peoples brains to upload and download information..
it's real, it's not conspiracy theories..
If you have a sensitive stomach don't watch the Ted Talks videos. they can be scary.

I have a question..
in this verse:
Rev 2:24
But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden.

the word "known"

Does it mean to be actively participating, or to even have knowledge of it?

Because the deeper down the rabbit hole you go, the more you "know"
That doesn't mean you participate in it, but rather are warned of it's tactics.

What does it mean to "have this doctrine" ?
To be willfully following it? or simply "knowing" of it?

The more I 'know"
The more my Faith grows in God.

Hugs

 

[Triumph1300]

Sorry my postr did not work.....I give it another try.

 

[Triumph1300]

Quote:

Not only does the Bible not support socialism, it also fundamentally opposes it on moral grounds.
Even if one believes that Jesus does require his followers to eschew wealth for the sake of the Gospel, his message does not encourage his followers to weaponize the ballot-box to force fellow citizens to pay higher tax rates than they do. As 2 Corinthians 9:7 puts it, “Each one must give as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.”

The most basic understanding of Judeo-Christian ethics will tell you that it is wrong to take things that do not belong to you. The fact that such thefts support the welfare of others and are done with the faceless anonymity of the state makes no difference. A vote for socialism is a vote for theft, and God will not count as charitable those who are generous with other people’s money.

I totally agree with the above.