The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

[brightfame52]

Glory in the Cross for redemption !

Gal 6:14

14 But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world.

The Cross of Christ did not merely make redemption possible for those He died in behalf of, but it made certain that they would become believers, that they would come into experimental salvation, so the cross saves completely, Paul knew it, and so does a True Christian.

What did Christ do when He died ? This should be known if we really believe the Gospel " That Christ died for our sins according to scripture".

Christ death proved to be an effective cure for the sinners He died for, for it is written, By His Stripes [Meaning His Death or Cross] we were healed 1 Pet 2:24

24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

The word healed is the greek word iaomai and means:

to cure, heal

2) to make whole

a) to free from errors and sins, to bring about (one's) salvation

By His Stripes or Cross He brings about ones Salvation, He makes them whole.337

It effects a spiritual healing, It heals the deadly wound of sin and spiritual death

The saved are healed not by their faith, their freewill, their repentance, but solely by the Cross / Stripes of Christ.

This is what redemption through His Blood accomplishes for all that He died.

Now, did He die for all without exception ? The obvious answer is no, since all without exception will not be made whole or healed .

 

[theefaith]

Glory in the Cross for redemption !

Gal 6:14

14 But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world.

The Cross of Christ did not merely make redemption possible for those He died in behalf of, but it made certain that they would become believers, that they would come into experimental salvation, so the cross saves completely, Paul knew it, and so does a True Christian.

What did Christ do when He died ? This should be known if we really believe the Gospel " That Christ died for our sins according to scripture".

Christ death proved to be an effective cure for the sinners He died for, for it is written, By His Stripes [Meaning His Death or Cross] we were healed 1 Pet 2:24

24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

The word healed is the greek word iaomai and means:

to cure, heal

2) to make whole

a) to free from errors and sins, to bring about (one's) salvation

By His Stripes or Cross He brings about ones Salvation, He makes them whole.337

It effects a spiritual healing, It heals the deadly wound of sin and spiritual death

The saved are healed not by their faith, their freewill, their repentance, but solely by the Cross / Stripes of Christ.

This is what redemption through His Blood accomplishes for all that He died.

Now, did He die for all without exception ? The obvious answer is no, since all without exception will not be made whole or healed .

All applied to our souls by faith and baptism (sacraments)

 

[JunChosen]

All applied to our souls by faith and baptism (sacraments)

The word "baptism" means "to wash."

Both "faith" and "baptism" are works that men perform and is contrary to Ephesians 2:9 as well as Titus 3:5 that reads:

"Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing [baptism] of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;"

To God Be The Glory

 

[theefaith]

The word "baptism" means "to wash."

Both "faith" and "baptism" are works that men perform and is contrary to Ephesians 2:9 as well as Titus 3:5 that reads:

"Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing [baptism] of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;"

To God Be The Glory

eph 2 refers to redemption not justification or salvation

Titus 3;5 like Jn 3:5 refer to baptism
No you cannot baptize yourself

 

[brightfame52]

His Death was a Propitiation for the sins of those He died for !

1 Jn 4:10

10 Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.

What does this word mean here ? Propitiation, well it is the greek word hilasmos:

an appeasing, propitiating

2) the means of appeasing, a propitiation

Christ was the means by which God would appease Himself of His Wrath against all those Christ died for. He will, did not, and cannot appease Himself by punishing anyone that Christ has died for, regardless if those persons accept it or not, the point is that He has accepted it from Christ's offering on their behalf.

The word appease means primarily:

To bring peace !


Because of Christ propitiation, peace is restored and those Christ died for have been reconciled to God by the death of Christ which appeased God Rom 5:10a

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son


That word reconciled is closely akin to propitiate in 1 Jn 4:10.Its greek word is katallassō and means:

to reconcile (those who are at variance)

b) return to favour with, be reconciled to one

c) to receive one into favour338

God was at variance/enmity with the elect because of their sins

But because Christ was sent to be a propitiation, that variance, enmity, conflict has been removed, Godwardly.

So, that even while the elect are at enmity with Him by Nature, they have been reconciled and returned to His Favor by the death of His Son on their behalf.

So the elect, or those Christ died for, are born in need of being converted, yet they are not under judicial condemnation or God's wrath while unconverted, because God has sent His Son to be the propitiation for their sins, because He Loved them.

 

[brightfame52]

All applied to our souls by faith and baptism (sacraments)

Absolutely false !

 

[theefaith]

His Death was a Propitiation for the sins of those He died for !

1 Jn 4:10

10 Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.

What does this word mean here ? Propitiation, well it is the greek word hilasmos:

an appeasing, propitiating

2) the means of appeasing, a propitiation

Christ was the means by which God would appease Himself of His Wrath against all those Christ died for. He will, did not, and cannot appease Himself by punishing anyone that Christ has died for, regardless if those persons accept it or not, the point is that He has accepted it from Christ's offering on their behalf.

The word appease means primarily:

To bring peace !


Because of Christ propitiation, peace is restored and those Christ died for have been reconciled to God by the death of Christ which appeased God Rom 5:10a

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son


That word reconciled is closely akin to propitiate in 1 Jn 4:10.Its greek word is katallassō and means:

to reconcile (those who are at variance)

b) return to favour with, be reconciled to one

c) to receive one into favour338

God was at variance/enmity with the elect because of their sins

But because Christ was sent to be a propitiation, that variance, enmity, conflict has been removed, Godwardly.

So, that even while the elect are at enmity with Him by Nature, they have been reconciled and returned to His Favor by the death of His Son on their behalf.

So the elect, or those Christ died for, are born in need of being converted, yet they are not under judicial condemnation or God's wrath while unconverted, because God has sent His Son to be the propitiation for their sins, because He Loved them.

he died for all
Jn 1:29 all
Jn3:16 whosoever

 

[theefaith]

Absolutely false !

that’s a great bible reference are now an apostle or the word of God?

Sacraments instituted by Christ for the salvation of souls!

Not by “faith alone”
“Faith alone” not biblical
“Faith alone” never given in prophesy in the OT.
You may think “Accept Jesus Christ as you personal Lord and savior” is biblical but there is no such verse in your bible!

Faith and the sacraments in the church founded by the authority Christ on Peter and the apostles is biblical!

Faith and baptism is the biblical initiation into the new covenant and member is Christ and His holy church!
Ez 36:25-27 Mk 16:16 acts 8:36-38

Merits of christ’s passion, death, and precious blood are applied in the sacraments! Jn 1:16

Colossians 1:20
And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.

Matt 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Acts 22:16
And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

Rom 3:24
Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

1 pet 1:2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

Heb 10:22
Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.

Acts 2:47
Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

Galatians 3:27
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

Lk 1: 72 To perform the mercy promised to our fathers, and to remember his holy covenant;

73 The oath which he sware to our father Abraham,

74 That he would grant unto us, that we being delivered out of the hand of our enemies might serve him without fear,

There is only one true church founded by Christ on Peter and the apostles and their successors is the new covenant body of Christ! Matt 1:18 & Jn 10:16 one fold

1 Timothy 3:15
But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

Christ and His church are one: acts 9 why persecute me?




Sacraments are the fruit of the sacrifice!
The holy sacrifice of Christ, His passion, blood, and death producing unlimited fruits of divine grace, actual and sanctifying grace! Jn 1:29 Jn 1:16-17 Jn 10:10


The promise (sacred oath or sacrament) of the Father acts 2:38-39 with reference to ez 36:25-27 Also a mystery
Mk 4:11 Eph 5:32 eph 6:19 1 Tim 3:9 3:16 Col 1:27 2:2 4:3

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

Ez 36:25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.

26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

Jn 3:5 born again by water and the spirit.

Heb 7:21 For those priests were made without an oath; but this with an oath by him that said unto him, The Lord sware and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec
(Oath = sacrament)

Hebrews 8:6
But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises. Based on Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:



A promise is a sacred oath or sacrament!
Baptismal regeneration is the promise of the Father for union in the new covenant!

The church and the seven sacraments are necessary for salvation

Better covenant on better promises

2 Timothy 1:1
Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, according to the promise of life which is in Christ Jesus,

Life of supernatural grace merited by Christ in His passion and death!

An oath to sacramental life in the new covenant in union with the mediator and communion with God, and the saints!

Promise of the Father acts 2:23-39
Promise is an oath and an oath is a sacrament! This promise of the sacrament of baptism refers to ez. 36:25-27

1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

Galatians 3:27
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.


1 Pet 3:20
Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us!
(Ark of Noah a type of the church, member of Christ and his church and salvation by baptism!)
(Outside the ark all died and outside the church there is no salvation!)

Jn 1:5-5 abide in Him, apart from Him you can do nothing.

Jn 10:10 life, (grace more abundantly)
Jn 1: 16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.

17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
Thru the sacraments!


God provides for everything:
John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

He is the way we must follow!
He is the truth we must believe!
He is the life, life of grace thru the sacraments of the church in which we must live!

Abide in Christ and His church with grace and life provided by God thru the sacraments!

 

[brightfame52]

he died for all
Jn 1:29 all
Jn3:16 whosoever

The scriptures you quote are true, but I doubt you understand them !

 

[theefaith]

The scriptures you quote are true, but I doubt you understand them !

Acts 8:31 And he said, How can I, except some man (apostle) should guide me? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him

 

[brightfame52]

Rev 5:9-10 The effectiveness of Christ redemption !

Rev 5:9-10

9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

The effectiveness of Christ redemption proves that it was not for all mankind without exception, this is a precious gospel Truth that Glorifies the Cross of Christ, because it means that His Cross actually saves , that's the power of the cross.1 Cor 1:18

For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

The preaching or the method of speaking is not the power of God, but the cross, the focus of the message, it is the power of God unto them who are being saved by it. .That is the Cross Saves it has power.

Now returning focus on Rev 5:9-10 vs 9 is it anywhere indicated that Christ ransomed [died] for everyone in each ethnic Group ? No it's not, for if so, it would not be careful to read that the ransomed or redeemed are out of every kindred, tongue and people and nation ! So any honest heart can perceive from vs 9 that Jesus redeeming blood was limited in intention, and only meant to save out of all people..

Acts 15:14

Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name.

Next, lets consider vs 10 as to what happens to them who are ransomed. It states that Christ by His blood [not by their freewill or faith] makes them to be a kingdom and priest to God, this is the effectiveness, it makes them these things Rev 1:5-6

5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

Now the same persons that were ransomed in vs 9 are said to be made a kingdom and priests , which is to say that all for whom Christ redeemed by His blood will become believers and shall be saved, for the same Truth is expressed for all whom He reconciled to God by His death, shall be saved by His Life Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

It can be absolutely no one Christ died for that shall not be saved and become a believer, a Priest to God, because the verse is emphatic in stating that those He died for, shed His blood for are made [not offered] into a Kingdom of Priest to God, so its seen from vs 10, that Christ redemption is efficacious in nature.

BTW, Those in 2 Pet 2:1 Could not have been bought with Christ redeeming blood, or that would contradict the effectiveness of Christ redemption that is taught here in Rev, So evidently the being bought there must mean something other than blood bought redemption.

 

[theefaith]

Rev 5:9-10 The effectiveness of Christ redemption !

Rev 5:9-10

9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

The effectiveness of Christ redemption proves that it was not for all mankind without exception, this is a precious gospel Truth that Glorifies the Cross of Christ, because it means that His Cross actually saves , that's the power of the cross.1 Cor 1:18

For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

The preaching or the method of speaking is not the power of God, but the cross, the focus of the message, it is the power of God unto them who are being saved by it. .That is the Cross Saves it has power.

Now returning focus on Rev 5:9-10 vs 9 is it anywhere indicated that Christ ransomed [died] for everyone in each ethnic Group ? No it's not, for if so, it would not be careful to read that the ransomed or redeemed are out of every kindred, tongue and people and nation ! So any honest heart can perceive from vs 9 that Jesus redeeming blood was limited in intention, and only meant to save out of all people..

Acts 15:14

Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name.

Next, lets consider vs 10 as to what happens to them who are ransomed. It states that Christ by His blood [not by their freewill or faith] makes them to be a kingdom and priest to God, this is the effectiveness, it makes them these things Rev 1:5-6

5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

Now the same persons that were ransomed in vs 9 are said to be made a kingdom and priests , which is to say that all for whom Christ redeemed by His blood will become believers and shall be saved, for the same Truth is expressed for all whom He reconciled to God by His death, shall be saved by His Life Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

It can be absolutely no one Christ died for that shall not be saved and become a believer, a Priest to God, because the verse is emphatic in stating that those He died for, shed His blood for are made [not offered] into a Kingdom of Priest to God, so its seen from vs 10, that Christ redemption is efficacious in nature.

BTW, Those in 2 Pet 2:1 Could not have been bought with Christ redeeming blood, or that would contradict the effectiveness of Christ redemption that is taught here in Rev, So evidently the being bought there must mean something other than blood bought redemption.

is he the savior of all men?

 

[brightfame52]

The Atonement or Satisfaction of Christ is unlimited in its Geographical extent, the whole world and not just Palestine or ethnic jews, but however it is limited in its purpose to save and effectiveness.

God's Purpose of Salvation through Christ is Limited to the seed of Abraham Heb 2:16

For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.

Gal 3:29

And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Only Heirs of Abraham's seed are promised Eternal life and Salvation..

But the seed of Abraham was not limited to one particular nation or geographical location or race, but was in every nation Gen 17:5

5 Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee.340

 

[brightfame52]

is he the savior of all men?

Post 1271 what does it say ? Lets discuss it ?

 

[theefaith]

Post 1271 what does it say ? Lets discuss it ?

lk 2:10 And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.

11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.

all people
Savior

now what about the sacrifice of Christ?

is it the fulfillment of the Passover?

 

[brightfame52]

Musing scriptures that clearly set forth the specific intention and objects of Christ death !

Eph 5:25-27

25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;

26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,

27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.

Now from this passage it is clear that the death of Christ has specific beneficiaries. Does paul tell us specifically in this passage who Christ Loved and gave Himself up for vs 25 cp Jn 13:1

1Now before the feast of the passover, when Jesus knew that his hour was come that he should depart out of this world unto the Father, having loved his own which were in the world, he loved them unto the end.

Now according to paul in this passage, why did Christ give himself for the church ?

So what conditioned must have the church been in, for Christ to give himself for her.

Was paul in this passage making Salvation possible through Christ death or was He making it actual through Christ death ?341

 

[theefaith]

Musing scriptures that clearly set forth the specific intention and objects of Christ death !

Eph 5:25-27

25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;

26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,

27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.

Now from this passage it is clear that the death of Christ has specific beneficiaries. Does paul tell us specifically in this passage who Christ Loved and gave Himself up for vs 25 cp Jn 13:1

1Now before the feast of the passover, when Jesus knew that his hour was come that he should depart out of this world unto the Father, having loved his own which were in the world, he loved them unto the end.

Now according to paul in this passage, why did Christ give himself for the church ?

So what conditioned must have the church been in, for Christ to give himself for her.

Was paul in this passage making Salvation possible through Christ death or was He making it actual through Christ death ?341

dodge

 

[brightfame52]

more on Eph 5:25-27

Lets look more closely at the Love of Christ in this passage, who is it that he Loves ? Is it not His Church, and is that not compared to that of a Husband and wife ? Now to say that Christ loved all people without exception the same and equally, His wife as well as those who are not His wife or bride, this seems to lessen His Love for the Church, His Bride, what greater expression of love is it than for one to lay down his life for those he loved Jn 15:13, so if Christ died for all without exception, then He loved all without exception in the same manner, which is paramount to a Husband saying to His Special Bride, yes I love you my dearest, but no more than I love any other women. Would the Special Bride feel special ? Was it not a difference of affection towards Rachel by Jacob than towards Leah ? see Gen 29:18 & 29:31

Was not Israel's election by God a token of her special Love above others ? Deut 7:6-7

6 For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.

7 The LORD did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people; for ye were the fewest of all people:

I believe the Love that Christ has for His Church, those He died for, His Bride, is comparatively speaking like hating those who was not His Bride, for not all without exception are the Chosen Bride of Christ.

Those whom the Father hath given [in marriage] His Son are the ones that come to Him as His Bride Jn 6:37

37All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.

Just as God brought Adam His Bride to Him [see Gen 2:22] which was eve, and because she had come out of him, which meant that she was first in him as one, so it is with Christ, the Last Adam, His Bride was first in Him as in Chosen in Him before the foundation [see Eph 1:4] and so God brings her to His Son in time [Jn 6:37], they will be attracted to Him and He to them because God chose them for one another for a marriage Purpose [Rev 19:7], Just as He chose Adam and Eve for a Marriage purpose, for this be a great Mystery Paul says in Eph 5:32. The account of Adam and Eve in Genesis 2 was a type and picture of Christ and His Bride the Church, so this could be nothing but special and exclusive Love for the Church above all others, expressed in giving His Life for Her.342

 

[theefaith]

more on Eph 5:25-27

Lets look more closely at the Love of Christ in this passage, who is it that he Loves ? Is it not His Church, and is that not compared to that of a Husband and wife ? Now to say that Christ loved all people without exception the same and equally, His wife as well as those who are not His wife or bride, this seems to lessen His Love for the Church, His Bride, what greater expression of love is it than for one to lay down his life for those he loved Jn 15:13, so if Christ died for all without exception, then He loved all without exception in the same manner, which is paramount to a Husband saying to His Special Bride, yes I love you my dearest, but no more than I love any other women. Would the Special Bride feel special ? Was it not a difference of affection towards Rachel by Jacob than towards Leah ? see Gen 29:18 & 29:31

Was not Israel's election by God a token of her special Love above others ? Deut 7:6-7

6 For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.

7 The LORD did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people; for ye were the fewest of all people:

I believe the Love that Christ has for His Church, those He died for, His Bride, is comparatively speaking like hating those who was not His Bride, for not all without exception are the Chosen Bride of Christ.

Those whom the Father hath given [in marriage] His Son are the ones that come to Him as His Bride Jn 6:37

37All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.

Just as God brought Adam His Bride to Him [see Gen 2:22] which was eve, and because she had come out of him, which meant that she was first in him as one, so it is with Christ, the Last Adam, His Bride was first in Him as in Chosen in Him before the foundation [see Eph 1:4] and so God brings her to His Son in time [Jn 6:37], they will be attracted to Him and He to them because God chose them for one another for a marriage Purpose [Rev 19:7], Just as He chose Adam and Eve for a Marriage purpose, for this be a great Mystery Paul says in Eph 5:32. The account of Adam and Eve in Genesis 2 was a type and picture of Christ and His Bride the Church, so this could be nothing but special and exclusive Love for the Church above all others, expressed in giving His Life for Her.342

what is the authority of the church by the apostles

 

[TheslightestID]

The scripture however does say that He died for His Sheep or His Church as per Jn 10:11,15

11I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.

Just now getting around to this thread, and I'm sure someone must have already called you on your deception right off of telling us he died for only HIS sheep, then quoting the bible verse in attempt to drive the point home that actually says THE sheep. Lol.

The truth is, it is the sheep, or anyone who chooses to come to him, not just the select few you are indicaticating with your changing the word the to his.