Biblical Mary

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This is nonsense based on the fact that Jesus giving His mother to the care of a person OUTSIDE His family (siblings) would have been a great scandal.

A scandal? LOL
Outside his family?
Family is limited to siblings? LOL

 

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Tell that to Enoch and Elijah.

What are you talking about...??
Are you saying, "Enoch and Elijah" did NOT die?

According to what?

 

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saints are not dead, fundamentalists are, brain dead


Fundamental teaching of Scripture is all earthly mens BODY'S of FLESH MUST DIE,
BEFORE they can BE SPIRITUALLY ALIVE!

Fundamental teaching of Scripture is Spiritually ALIVE...MEANS:
Bodily DEAD
Soul KEPT ALIVE (saved)
Spirit QUICKENED (born again)

The Understanding thereof IS IN THE
(Spirit, in the thought of the Heart).
(The Brain, (MIND), is AGAINST GOD).

Your comment, "fundamentalists are, brain dead"....obviously intended AS a derragatory slam....unbeknownst to you...the MIND, which IS AGAINST God, is part of the body,
Given, UNTO DEATH, that it Become RENEWED, subjected to the Thoughts of a Born Again Spirit...

So while you HANG ON TO your Carnal minded thinking...and philosophies and traditions of Carnal Minded men..

Learn this:

Rom 8:
[7] Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

Col 2:
[8] Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

Catechism IS your (outside of Scripture) Book of Philosophies of men.

Catholic Rituals (outside of Scripture) are Traditions of men.

 

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Yes, I've always found it interesting how ALL Mary's "other children" suddenly vanish at the foot of the cross, leaving Jesus with NO other choice than to leave her to the care of someone outside the family.

Vanished Children? LOL
Mary...and Mary's biological children were NEVER the Highlight in Scripture.

Mary herself being mentioned in Scripture ONLY once ... (so you would KNOW, She herself being A SINNER, received forgiveness AND Salvation )
...AFTER Jesus' (Body, prepared by God), walked on Earth, died, rose up walked on Earth Again, and rose BACK UP to Heaven from whence His (Body, prepared by God) came forth and Returned.

You should have learned the Highlight IN Scripture IS ALL ABOUT JESUS, who came Forth out from God IN Heaven, TO EARTH,
(TO: Revive Gods Word on Earth, TO: the Lost and Unknowing, WITH a NEW COVENANT, of HOW TO: receive SALVATION NOW (by and THROUGH HIM) and RETURNED TO GOD IN HEAVEN, from whence HE came.)



John 16:
[27] .... I came out from God.
[28] I came forth from the Father...into the world...

Heb 10:[5] but a body hast thou prepared me:

Heb 10:
[5] [/B] (for) when he cometh into the world
[/B]

Placing the Highlight ON Mary, her egg, being fertilized...is Corrupt.

God Prepared His Word, Jesus, A BODY...
BEFORE Jesus came DOWN from HEAVEN... INTO the WORLD.

 

[Mungo]

Mary herself being mentioned in Scripture ONLY once ...

Only once!
Have you missed Mt 1:16, 18, 20; 2:11; 13:55; Mk 6:3; Lk 1:27, 30, 34, 38, 39, 46, 56; 2:5, 16, 19, 23, Acts 1:14, plus phrases like the "mother of Jesus"
I think you need to get a new Bible.

 

[theefaith]

ALL earthly bodies DIE, God requires it!
Saints who have physically died, their bodys are "returning" to dust, as Scripture says.
Their Living saved soul was Escorted to Heaven.
Their Living quickened spirit Goes to Gods hand.

mary is in heaven body and soul

 

[theefaith]

She wasn't John's "spiritual mother". Mary became John's burden, and as a Mutually loved and friend of Jesus' I would presume John was honored to Serve Jesus as Jesus requested.

I never said she was john’s spiritual mother

But of the disciple and all disciples
Mother of Christians

rev 12:17

 

[theefaith]

What other Service is required of you?

the church
Faith hope and charity
The sacraments
Suffering

 

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Only once!

Yes, ONLY ONCE ... AFTER...AS MY WHOLE BOLDEN PRINT STATEMENT SAID...
AND YOU DECEIVINGLY DID NOT PRINT.


Mary herself being mentioned in Scripture ONLY once ... (so you would KNOW, She herself being A SINNER, received forgiveness AND Salvation )
...AFTER Jesus' (Body, prepared by God), walked on Earth, died, rose up walked on Earth Again, and rose BACK UP to Heaven from whence His (Body, prepared by God) came forth and Returned.

I think you need to get a new Bible.

By your own printed words, it is plain for all to see, you need a lesson in grammar, the meaning of punctuations marks, and the meaning of IN Context and the meaning of deception, before you dictate to others what you think they should do.

 

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mary is in heaven body and soul

Quote the Scripture that says Mary's BODY is in Heaven...

 

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the church
Faith hope and charity
The sacraments
Suffering

QUOTE Scripture that says those things ARE REQUIRED of you?

 

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I never said she was john’s spiritual mother

But of the disciple and all disciples
Mother of Christians

rev 12:17

You imulate a SIMILAR manner in which Catholics Convey.
(But with added twist).

You speak in chopped up incomplete sentences that DO NOT convey a CLEAR thought
and then in the same manner as many Catholics speak....including "A REFERENCE" to a Scripture...that such Reference has NOTHING whatsoever to do with what YOU SAID...

 

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mary is in heaven body and soul

Share with us...WHO or WHAT specifically TOLD you...'Mary's body is in heaven" ?

 

[BreadOfLife]

What are you talking about...??
Are you saying, "Enoch and Elijah" did NOT die?

According to what?

According to the Word of GOD:

Genesis 5:24
Enoch walked with God, and he was not, for God took him.

Hebrews 11:5
By faith Enoch was taken up so that he should not see death, and he was not found, because God had taken him. Now before he was taken he was commended as having pleased God.

2 Kings 2:11-12
As they were walking along and talking together, suddenly a chariot of fire and horses of fire appeared and separated the two of them, and Elijah went up to heaven in a whirlwind. Elisha saw this and cried out, “My father! My father! The chariots and horsemen of Israel!”

Sooooo, you reject THIS truth as well?

 

[BreadOfLife]

A scandal? LOL
Outside his family?
Family is limited to siblings? LOL

Yup - it would have been a scandalous act on the part pof Jesus to "give" His mother away to people outside the family if she indeed had "other" children.

And remember - I'm NOT the the one who says she had "other" children - you Protestants make that claim without Scriptural OR historical support, so the onus in on YOU to explain this.

 

[TheslightestID]

28 And the angel entered to her, and said, Hail, full of grace; the Lord is with thee; blessed bethou among women.

full of grace

preserved from all sin

You made that last part up. Nowhere in the bible does it state Mary was sinless. See? Its little fibs such as that, which causes people to bow down to graven images of Mary.

rom 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

not absolute
Does not include Jesus, Mary, children, or mentally ill

Please dont try to confuse the issue by bringing children and the mentally ill into this....its simple, Mary is not those things, she was a competent adult.

Are you aware who else confuses issues such as you have done in order to pull off an untruth?

 

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According to the Word of GOD:

Genesis 5:24
Enoch walked with God, and he was not, for God took him.

Hebrews 11:5
By faith Enoch was taken up so that he should not see death, and he was not found, because God had taken him. Now before he was taken he was commended as having pleased God.

2 Kings 2:11-12
As they were walking along and talking together, suddenly a chariot of fire and horses of fire appeared and separated the two of them, and Elijah went up to heaven in a whirlwind. Elisha saw this and cried out, “My father! My father! The chariots and horsemen of Israel!”

Sooooo, you reject THIS truth as well?

First of all, as a "good Catholic" having learned how Catholics "are Supposed to Speak".... Projecting a false narrative... as you regularly do...As here...

Sooooo, you reject THIS truth as well?

As well "AS WHAT" ?
I have NOT rejected ANY of Gods TRUTHS.

So ASIDE from YOUR Catholic method of operation, (that; BTW is clearly seen, noticed by ALL who has ever read your posts)...

On to the point about Enoch and Elijah.
I didn't challenge Scripture.
I challenged "YOUR CLAIM...."
That Enoch did not DIE, but when to Heaven.
That Elijah did not DIE, but when to Heaven.

My first Challenge to YOU WAS...
"WHICH Heaven are you talking about"...

You DID NOT CLARIFY....so lets start there...
And then move on.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Vanished Children? LOL
Mary...and Mary's biological children were NEVER the Highlight in Scripture.

Mary herself being mentioned in Scripture ONLY once ... (so you would KNOW, She herself being A SINNER, received forgiveness AND Salvation )
...AFTER Jesus' (Body, prepared by God), walked on Earth, died, rose up walked on Earth Again, and rose BACK UP to Heaven from whence His (Body, prepared by God) came forth and Returned.

You should have learned the Highlight IN Scripture IS ALL ABOUT JESUS, who came Forth out from God IN Heaven, TO EARTH,
(TO: Revive Gods Word on Earth, TO: the Lost and Unknowing, WITH a NEW COVENANT, of HOW TO: receive SALVATION NOW (by and THROUGH HIM) and RETURNED TO GOD IN HEAVEN, from whence HE came.)

John 16:
[27] .... I came out from God.
[28] I came forth from the Father...into the world...

Heb 10:[5] but a body hast thou prepared me:

Heb 10:
[5] [/B] (for) when he cometh into the world
[/B]

Placing the Highlight ON Mary, her egg, being fertilized...is Corrupt.

God Prepared His Word, Jesus, A BODY...
BEFORE Jesus came DOWN from HEAVEN... INTO the WORLD.

WRONG.
Mary's ONLY biological child is the REASON for Scripture. But it's funny how you are trying desperately to deflect the subject away to talking about Jesus's body - when the subject is MARY. and her alleged "other" children.

The claim made by YOU Protestants is that Mary had "other" children - when Scripture says NO such thing.
THEN, at the Crucifixion - Jesus has to give His mother to the care of one of His Apostles because she is a widow.

So my question to YOU all is: What happened to these "other" children of Mary - and WHY didn't THEY take care of her??
I can't WAIT to hear your explanation - and I'm certain that it will be one of your usual VERBOSE rants as you try desperately to invent the story . . .

 

[theefaith]

why do you think it is scripture that has authority?

 

[theefaith]

Quote the Scripture that says Mary's BODY is in Heaven...

Rev 12:1