Biblical Mary

[amigo de christo]

God sent from Heaven, to Mary's Virgin Womb, "the Word of God, in the Likeness "AS" a man. (Phil 2:8)

As was Intended: "a son".
(Luke 1:31)

"Her son".
(Luke 2:7)

Once the WORD of God was SENT to Mary's WOMB..."A portion of Prophecy WAS fulfilled".

Isa 55:
[11] So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

Once the WORD of God came forth FROM Marys WOMB..."Another portion of Prophecy WAS fulfilled".

Isa 7:
[14] Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

Isa 9:
[6] For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given...

Prophecy is Fulfilled "step by step"....
Prophecy IS FORETOLD, but NOT FULFILLED, "UNTIL" it IS "MANIFESTED" "REVEALED."

"A son", born of Mary, WAS manifested.
* THAT "son"... was LATER, "revealed"
...The Word of God, The Light, The Son of God, The Quickening Spirit, The Christ, The Holy One, The Truth, The Way, The Life, God.

Catholics, Teach and Preach...what WAS KNOWLEDGE "Manifested and Revealed"..."AFTER" Jesus' BIRTH...and FALSELY "apply" it TO "BEFORE" Jesus' BIRTH....BY using, A MINDFUL LOGICAL CONCLUSION and the word....... THEREFORE

We certainly CAN KNOW Trust and Believe;
The KNOWLEDGE Foretold and "REVEALED" AFTER Jesus BIRTH that Jesus, IS the Word of God, the Son of God, the Christ, the Quickening Spirit, the True Light, the Way, the Truth, the Light, God IN the "FLESH LIKENESS AS A MAN"...

But THOSE THINGS...WERE NOT manifested..."UNTIL" AFTER His birth.

The TRUTH IS...God is without beginning or ending. God has no mother or father.
To TEACH and PREACH a Creation of God, Created God, IS A LIE.

Sing those praises out unto the glorious Lord . Yes indeed .

 

[Pythagorean12]

I agree with all but the last part read Jn 2 they have no wine vs 11 the disciples believed cos of Mary’s intercession

Blessing from God thru Mary!

All graces come to us they Mary, from God by the merits (blood) of Christ!
Jn 1:16
Of His fullness we have all received, grace for grace!

Salvation Lk 1:30
Consented to our salvation Lk 1:38
Mother of Christ Matt 1:16
Mother of the word Jn 1:1
Mother of our savior Matt 1:21
Mother of our salvation Lk 2:30
Our mother Jn 19:26-27

Elizabeth filled with the Holy Spirit!

Lk 1:41 And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost:

John sanctified in the womb!

Lk 1:15 For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb.

Lk 1:44 For, lo, as soon as the voice of thy salutation sounded in mine ears, the babe leaped in my womb for joy.

Zacharias is filled with the Holy Spirit and prophecy!

Lk 1:67 And his father Zacharias was filled with the Holy Ghost, and prophesied, saying,

The wedding couple have wine and not shame!

Jn 2: 10 And saith unto him, Every man at the beginning doth set forth good wine; and when men have well drunk, then that which is worse: but thou hast kept the good wine until now.

The disciples are supplied with faith, hope, and charity!

11 This beginning of miracles did Jesus in Cana of Galilee, and manifested forth his glory; and his disciples believed on him.

All these blessings from God because of Mary most holy!

Mother of Divine Grace!

Hebrews 4:16
Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.

The throne of Grace is the throne of Mary the ever Virgin mother of God!

We come boldly to this throne cause Mary is our mother and advocate!

Mary is the storehouse of divine graces!

Lk 1:28
And the angel entered to her, and said, Hail Mary, full of grace; the Lord is with thee; blessed be thou among women.

All graces come from the merits of Christ, from His passion and death and come thru Mary to the glory of Her only begotten Son!

That's an extensive opinion and clearly even without looking at a profile page you are Catholic.
I would not offer any protestation against your observations because you, as with all who are known by God by name, live what you believe.
God Bless.

 

[theefaith]

Covenants aren’t through which God saves. Not in the time of Adam to Noah to Abraham to till before the death, resurrection and ascension of Christ nor after that. God saves by grace through faith.

Tong
R4728

Faith and the sacraments impart grace and make us members of Christ and his covenant

 

[theefaith]

So, do ALL the successors of the apostles, that is, the RCC bishops, cardinals, and Pope raise the dead, cast out demons, heal the sick, make the blind see, and so on?

You have any to show and prove?

Tong
R4729

It refers to the church as a whole

 

[theefaith]

THEN DONT expect me to follow men that teach us to pray to saints , mary or angels .

So no one in scripture prays to angels???

Gen 19: 2 And he said, Behold now, my lords, turn in, I pray you, into your servant's house, and tarry all night, and wash your feet, and ye shall rise up early, and go on your ways. And they said, Nay; but we will abide in the street all night.

 

[Tong2020]

Faith and the sacraments impart grace and make us members of Christ and his covenant

It is God who gives and imparts grace. He also is the one who adds to His church.

Tong
R4741

 

[Tong2020]

Tong2020 said: ↑
So, do ALL the successors of the apostles, that is, the RCC bishops, cardinals, and Pope raise the dead, cast out demons, heal the sick, make the blind see, and so on?

You have any to show and prove?

It refers to the church as a whole

So, no show.

Tong
R4742

 

[theefaith]

It is God who gives and imparts grace. He also is the one who adds to His church.

Tong
R4741

There must be a method or means for these things


St. Paul tells the faithful at Ephesus that they have been “sealed with the promised holy Spirit.” This is in terms of an indelible character imprinted on the soul in the sacraments of baptism and confirmation. It is not as if this invisible mark is simply decorative. Rather, through it, we are enabled to participate in Christ’s mission and in his offices of priest, prophet, and king. Eph 1:13

Sealed by God eph 1:13 sealed by God (ez 36:25-27) in the ark of salvation by baptism just as Noah was sealed by God in the ark of the flood gen 7:16

1 Pet 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us!
(Ark of Noah a type of the church, member of Christ and his church and salvation by baptism!)
(Outside the ark of Noah none were saved, outside the church (the ark of salvation) none are saved!)

1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

Galatians 3:27
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

 

[Tong2020]

Tong2020 said: ↑
It is God who gives and imparts grace. He also is the one who adds to His church.

There must be a method or means for these things


St. Paul tells the faithful at Ephesus that they have been “sealed with the promised holy Spirit.” This is in terms of an indelible character imprinted on the soul in the sacraments of baptism and confirmation. It is not as if this invisible mark is simply decorative. Rather, through it, we are enabled to participate in Christ’s mission and in his offices of priest, prophet, and king. Eph 1:13

Sealed by God eph 1:13 sealed by God (ez 36:25-27) in the ark of salvation by baptism just as Noah was sealed by God in the ark of the flood gen 7:16

1 Pet 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us!
(Ark of Noah a type of the church, member of Christ and his church and salvation by baptism!)
(Outside the ark of Noah none were saved, outside the church (the ark of salvation) none are saved!)

1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

Galatians 3:27
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

<<<There must be a method or means for these things>>>

Well, that is what you say, must be.

It remains that it is not as you say “Faith and the sacraments impart grace and make us members of Christ and his covenant”, but that it is God who gives and imparts grace and also is the one who adds to His church.

Tong
R4744

 

[theefaith]

<<<There must be a method or means for these things>>>

Well, that is what you say, must be.

It remains that it is not as you say “Faith and the sacraments impart grace and make us members of Christ and his covenant”, but that it is God who gives and imparts grace and also is the one who adds to His church.

Tong
R4744

ez 36:25-27

God breathed life into Adam, gen 2:7 and we received this life from our fathers!

Christ breathed on the apostles our spiritual fathers, we receive the new covenant life of God’s grace from them thru faith & baptism! Jn 20:21-23

St. Paul tells the faithful at Ephesus that they have been “sealed with the promised Holy Spirit.” This is in terms of an indelible character imprinted on the soul in the sacraments of baptism and confirmation. It is not as if this invisible mark is simply decorative. Rather, through it, we are enabled to participate in Christ’s mission and in his offices of priest, prophet, and king. Eph 1:13

Sealed by God eph 1:13 sealed by God (ez 36:25-27) in the ark of salvation by baptism just as Noah was sealed by God in the ark of the flood gen 7:16

1 Pet 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us!
(Ark of Noah a type of the church, member of Christ and his church and salvation by baptism!)
(Outside the ark of Noah none were saved, outside the church (the ark of salvation) none are saved!)

 

[Tong2020]

ez 36:25-27

God breathed life into Adam, gen 2:7 and we received this life from our fathers!

Christ breathed on the apostles our spiritual fathers, we receive the new covenant life of God’s grace from them thru faith & baptism! Jn 20:21-23

St. Paul tells the faithful at Ephesus that they have been “sealed with the promised Holy Spirit.” This is in terms of an indelible character imprinted on the soul in the sacraments of baptism and confirmation. It is not as if this invisible mark is simply decorative. Rather, through it, we are enabled to participate in Christ’s mission and in his offices of priest, prophet, and king. Eph 1:13

Sealed by God eph 1:13 sealed by God (ez 36:25-27) in the ark of salvation by baptism just as Noah was sealed by God in the ark of the flood gen 7:16

1 Pet 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us!
(Ark of Noah a type of the church, member of Christ and his church and salvation by baptism!)
(Outside the ark of Noah none were saved, outside the church (the ark of salvation) none are saved!)

<<<God breathed life into Adam, gen 2:7 and we received this life from our fathers!>>>

What sacrament is that?

<<<Christ breathed on the apostles our spiritual fathers, we receive the new covenant life of God’s grace from them thru faith & baptism! Jn 20:21-23>>>

How is that comparable to God breathing life into Adam, and we receiving life from our fathers which you refer to? If you can explain that, please do so. If not, never mind.

Besides, our having life by the coming together in sexual union by our parents, renders us as to be the product of their actions, and the action of God - giving him/her who is conceived in the womb of the woman, the breathe of life. The one conceived in the womb had nothing to do with all of that.

Tong
R4751

 

[Eternally Grateful]

<<<God breathed life into Adam, gen 2:7 and we received this life from our fathers!>>>

What sacrament is that?

<<<Christ breathed on the apostles our spiritual fathers, we receive the new covenant life of God’s grace from them thru faith & baptism! Jn 20:21-23>>>

How is that comparable to God breathing life into Adam, and we receiving life from our fathers which you refer to? If you can explain that, please do so. If not, never mind.

Besides, our having life by the coming together in sexual union by our parents, renders us as to be the product of their actions, and the action of God - giving him/her who is conceived in the womb of the woman, the breathe of life. The one conceived in the womb had nothing to do with all of that.

Tong
R4751

Amen

If grace is imparted through sacraments (works) its not grace at all. It is a reward, a wage or something that is earned.

It stopped being grace the moment one had to do somethign in order to recieve it.

Grace is freely given, Salvation is freely given by grave through faith. Not faith plus works (sacraments)