Was Adam Imparted Free Will From The Beginning Of Creation?
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An argument is a reasoned opinion supported and explained by evidence.
Kermos presented his wonderment in a question.
"Imparted Freewill", expressly concerning ADAM.
No one responded to "imparted".
People responded to "freewill", concerning Adam.
Kermos then Name called, and posted Rom 8;
Highlighting "not willingly" while ignoring,
The TEXT in Rom 8, of a man being: Subject to VAINITY, not willingly.
Kermos then continues accusations and name calling...and repeating "not willingly".
Kermos is trying to change his argument from FREEWILL of Adam Eating....
TO...
ADAM "not willingly" Eating.
And name calling Because...no one is falling for his "nonsense".
An argument is a reasoned opinion supported and explained by evidence.
Freewill is a persons ability to make his own choices, according to his will, want, desire.
Subject to Vanity, may certainly be WHY a person makes the choices they DO FREELY MAKE...
Subject to Vanity, Does not mean A person CAN NOT FREELY CHOOSE.
Kermos has given NO REASONABLE opinion or EVIDENCE that Adams eating was because of
Adams VAINITY.
Thus there IS no reasonable argument...and whoopie for him...to do what he does...fill pages of posts of accusations and name calling.
Mans Freewill...
is simply a man choosing between options unimpeded.
* You trying to "rewrite" Biblical History is fraudlent.
John 2:
[13] And the Jews' passover was at hand, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem,
[14] And found in the temple those that sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the changers of money sitting:
[15] And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables;
* scripture is specific of WHO exactly Jesus drove out of the Temple, and WHY.
* scirpture nevers says every person in the Temple on that day was selling, or buying animals.
* scripture nevers says on that Passover, men were to no longer to take animals to the Temple to Offer unto the Lord.
And YES Scripture absolutely says for men to Choose.
Josh 24:
[15] ...choose you this day whom ye will serve...
OK, so you are in square one.
In your previous post, you added "Adam Had a Choice" into the Word of God recorded in Genesis 1:1-31 Genesis 2:1- 25 Genesis 3:1-24.
Choice is NOT in Genesis 1:1-31 Genesis 2:1- 25 Genesis 3:1-24.
It is written "do not add to His words or He will reprove you, and you will be proved a liar" (Proverbs 30:6).
Now, you've brought up an interesting passage:
"A natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised" (1 Corinthians 2:14).
A natural man adulterates the Word of God with "choice" such that it is no longer the Word of God. You proclaim "the word of you".
Every person starts out life as a slave to sin (Romans 6:20), so as a slave to sin a person has no means to change from being a slave to sin on their own (1 Corinthians 2:14).
A slave of sin is purchased solely by Christ to be converted solely by Christ into a slave of Righteousness (Romans 6:18), and Christ is the Righteous Branch (Jeremiah 23 5).
Free will does not exist according to this Truth, that is Christ (John 14:6).
Square one, in this context, is the place where all people start, so square one is the place of a natural man.
The slave of sin rejects the Word of God by adding to the Word of God and subtracting from the Word of God.
We born of God receive this wonderfully blessed act of being born again by the Spirit of God (John 3:3-8), so by the Power of God (1 Corinthians 1:24) we see and enter the kingdom of God.
The Word of God says "you did not choose Me, but I chose you" (John 15:16) as well as "I chose you out of the world" (John 15:19, includes salvation).
You think that you can choose God, so you reject the Word of God who says "you did not choose Me" (John 15:16).
The slave of sin rejects the pure milk of the Word of God; on the other hand, the slave of righteousness joyfully receive the pure milk of the Word of God (1 Peter 2:2).
A natural man conveys that Joshua 24:15 indicates a person can choose God. The "choose" in Joshua 24:15 applies to false gods only. The "as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD" in Joshua 24:15 is an imperative, NOT an interogative, NOT a clause with Joshua "choosing" God, NOT "as for me and my house, we will choose to serve the LORD", but specifically a declaration of action which is "serve".
Joshua 24:15 is nothing about freewill.
Still, no free will written in the creation account (Genesis 1:1-31 Genesis 2:1- 25 Genesis 3:1-24), with Paul in accord for he conveyed that Adam "not willingly" ate of the tree since Paul included all time prior to Paul's birth by his writing "until now" (Romans 8:20-22).
Just as the original post shows richly in scripture, Adam was not imparted free will, and no man thereafter was imparted free will neither.
"like newborn babies, long for the pure milk of the Word, so that by it you may grow in respect to salvation" (1 Peter 2:2).
"Before Abraham was, I AM" (John 8:58).
"you did not choose Me, but I chose you" (John 15:16).
"I chose you out of the world" (John 15:19, includes salvation).
The English word "choose" has a Hebrew word equivalent of "בָּחר" (bachar -Strong's Number 977).
The Hebrew word "בָּחר" does not occur in the creation account (Genesis 1:1-31 Genesis 2:1- 25 Genesis 3:1-24).
"Choose" does not occur in the Word here:
and commanded YHWH God to the man, saying "Of every tree in the garden to eat you will be eating, but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, not eating from, when in the day you are to eat of it to die you will be dying" (Genesis 2:16-17, this post in this thread examines the Hebrew to find tje words "freely", "surely", and "may" do not occur in Genesis 2:16-17 or easier to read original of the examination, but off ChristianityBoard.com).
Wynona, in Truth, Adam was commanded to eat of every tree of the garden with the exception of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
Furthermore, God did not say "you may choose to eat...".
See that action is expressed, not choice, but action.
The actions include "eat", "not eat", and "die".
Again, God did not say "you have the ability to choose, so...".
"Choose" does not occur in scripture here:
"When the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was desirable to make [one] wise, she took from its fruit and ate; and she gave also to her husband with her, and he ate" (Genesis 3:6).
Again, here is action, not choice, but action.
The passage does not say "and he chose to eat".
The passage does say "and he ate".
An "implication" occurs when a person makes an inference upon a subject matter for which no underlying explicit text exists. The Word of God does not explicitly state that Adam had the ability to "choose", so you add the implicit "choice" by way of your thoughts as opposed to the pure milk of the Word of God.
Wynona, that which God knows will happen absolutely comes to pass.
No purpose of God's can be thwarted (Job 42:2).
Adam could not avoid eating of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
As to cause for Adam eating of the forbidden tree for food, here is the Word of God declaring the CAUSE with "Because you have listened to the voice of your wife, and have eaten from the tree about which I commanded you, saying, 'You shall not eat from it'" (Genesis 3:17).
I appreciate the effort.
As a parting point for this post:
Despite the Creation account in Genesis 1-3 being silent about man's "will", there exists Apostolic teaching on the matter of man's "will" with regard to the creation account.
Adam did not exercise willpower to disobey God's command not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil (Genesis 2:16-17) for Paul wrote "the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly" (Romans 8:20, NASB); therefore, Adam did not make a choice, not a willing choice, to eat.
A "choice" by Adam is explicitly excluded by using scripture with scripture referencing, in fact, "the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly" (Romans 8:20, KJV), so Adam acted not willingly but rather acted subject to vanity in his eating of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
"Not willingly" indicates "not choice".
Some people may claim that Paul was referring to a timeframe exclusively after what they call "the fall" (after Adam ate of the tree [Genesis 3:6]), but the continuity of the passage of Romans 8:20-22must be taken as a whole.
Paul left no room for disputing to the timeframe for which "not willingly" applies, for Paul also wrote "we know that the whole creation groans and suffers the pains of childbirth together until now" (Romans 8:22), and the phrase "until now" is the timeframe's most recent limiting factor which memes that all times prior to "now" are included, so "the whole creation" includes the moment after God breathed into Adam's nostrils the breath of life (Genesis 2:7) until Adam ate of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil (Genesis 3:6); therefore, we can be certain that Paul includes the timeframe that Adam ate of the tree in the travailing/groaning because Paul wrote of all of this in the same passage, i.e. Romans 8:20-22.
Paul includes the "not willingly" (Romans 8:20-22) to apply to the time that Adam ate of the tree (Genesis 3:6).
No scripture states Adam was created with a free will just as the original post shows; therefore, Adam nor anyone after Adam had a freewill.
The Apostle Paul wrote "it does not depend on the man who wills or the man who runs, but on God who has mercy." (Romans 9:16).
I have repeatedly written that man does not have a free will.
As I repeatedly point out, largely, I use free will to mean man choosing toward God, emphatically Lord Jesus Christ.
That is item 2.1.3 in the original post.
I have never said nor written that man does not have a will.
Since you add to the Word of God without reservation, I am not surprised that you have added to what I have written.
Freewill is not in Romans 8.
Freewill is not in Romans 9.
"A natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised" (1 Corinthians 2:14).
So, a natural man who does not know who God is asks mockingly or states things like:
- Why does He still find fault? (Romans 9:19)
- For who resists His will? (Romans 9:19)
- Why did you make me like this? (Romans 9:20)
Wow, these things that Paul wrote are reminiscent to me of your question barrage in your quoted post above!
Paul exposed his righteous anger with such natural man thoughts when he wrote "On the contrary, who are you, O man, who answers back to God?" (Romans 9:20)
It's time to look at the passage:
You will say to me then, “Why does He still find fault? For who resists His will?” On the contrary, who are you, O man, who answers back to God? The thing molded will not say to the molder, “Why did you make me like this,” will it? Or does not the potter have a right over the clay, to make from the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for common use? What if God, although willing to demonstrate His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction? And He did so to make known the riches of His glory upon vessels of mercy, which He prepared beforehand for glory (Romans 9:19-23)
In fact, Romans 9 is about God being omnipotent regarding man's salvation, and man being impotent in man's salvation.
It is written "HE HAS MERCY ON WHOM HE DESIRES, AND HE HARDENS WHOM HE DESIRES" (Romans 9:18).
Your proclivity to add to scripture and to subtract from the Word of God has been repeatedly shown in this thread.
Here is one practical post and another example post showing this fact.
Not to mention how many of your questions have been addressed scripturally in this thread.
You have sufficiently demonstrated that you do not understand the creation account.
Unless I perceive that your questions are genuine hunger for the Bread of Life instead of predatory like a wolf in sheep's clothing about the creation account I do not plan to answer or address such of your questions any further.
You vehemently added freewill into the Word of God recorded in Genesis 1:1-31 Genesis 2:1- 25 Genesis 3:1-24.
Furthermore, you just subtracted the Apostle Paul's writing that Adam did not willingly eat of the tree because Paul conveyed that nothing in creation willingly subjected anyting in creation to futility with Paul's writing of "the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly" (Romans 8:20).
You proclaim "the word of you". For you adulterate the Word of God with "choose" such that it is no longer the Word of God.
Still, no free will written in the creation account (Genesis 1:1-31 Genesis 2:1- 25 Genesis 3:1-24), with Paul in accord for he conveyed that Adam "not willingly" ate of the tree since Paul included all time prior to Paul's birth by his writing "until now" (Romans 8:20-22).
Just as the original post shows richly in scripture, Adam was not imparted free will, and no man thereafter was imparted free will neither.
But still your just wrong and just put your ahnds over your ears . You should see things and read them again because you do understand but just for argumentsake just didly dadle and repeat but do say anything but your right and the whole world is wrong :O.
Thank you for replying.
So you would say salvation is God's choice and not a choice we make?
Sir, the Apostle Paul is the one who wrote "the whole creation" (Romans 8:22) as he added emphasis to his earlier use of "the creation" Romans 8:20).
You are trying to eliminate the way that Jews would emphasize a matter by repeating it.
Since Paul wrote "the whole creation" (Romans 8:22), then he included Adam.
Considering "listen":
As to cause for Adam eating of the forbidden tree for food, here is the Word of God declaring the CAUSE with "Because you have listened to the voice of your wife, and have eaten from the tree about which I commanded you, saying, 'You shall not eat from it'" (Genesis 3:17).
The Word of God literally attributes the cause to Adam "listened to the voice of" his "wife" for Adam to "have eaten from the tree about which" God "commanded" him ", saying, 'You shall not eat from it'".
The action of "listen" is In this passage, not "choice", but action.
Considering "he ate":
"When the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was desirable to make [one] wise, she took from its fruit and ate; and she gave also to her husband with her, and he ate" (Genesis 3:6).
Again, here is action of "ate", not choice, but action.
The passage does not say "and he chose to eat".
The passage does say "and he ate".
Considering "choose":
The English word "choose" has a Hebrew word equivalent of "בָּחר" (bachar -Strong's Number 977).
The Hebrew word "בָּחר" does not occur in the creation account (Genesis 1:1-31 Genesis 2:1- 25 Genesis 3:1-24).
Since "choose" does not occur in the Word here in the creation account, then you are doing a thing called adding to the Word of God.
The Word of God does not say that Adam had free will, so the ONLY way mere man can conclude that Adam had free will is for mere man to add free will into the Word of God where free will does not exist.
There is a significant difference between the claim that Adam had the ability to choose God versus Adam's ability to eat of a tree.
Scripture reveals of Adam "he did eat" (Genesis 3:6); therefore, scripture shows that Adam was imparted the ability to eat.
No scripture states that Adam was imparted a free will to choose God.
Behold the difference, Mr. Nolette.
Of Genesis 3:6-17, you wrote "speaks of freedom to choose or not"; on the other hand, the word "choose" is not spoken once in the passage!
Per Eve's later words of "The serpent deceived me, and I ate" (Genesis 3:13), she did not "allow" "herself to be beguiled".
The words of Genesis 3:6 do not convey that "Eve allowed herself to be beguiled".
The words of Genesis 3:6 do convey Eve's lust.
The Apostle Paul says she did not willingly eat of the tree (Romans 8:20-22), so you word "allow" is an addition to scripture..
Nothing states that she "offered" the fruit of which you imply he accepted by his freewill.
In "and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat" (Genesis 3:6), see that she "gave", not "offered", but "gave".
That whole offer/accept between Adam ans Eve was moot before you wrote it because Paul wrote that Adam did not willingly subject the creation to futility (Romans 8:20).
Don't forget the CAUSE recorded in Genesis 3:17.
That is NOT what Paul wrote in "the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groans and suffers the pains of childbirth together until now" (Romans 8:20-22).
That conluding "together until now" includes the time prior to, during, and after Adam ate of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
No scripture states your thoughts.
Now you are trying to steal the fruit of the Spirit from God.
Lord Jesus says "I am the vine, you are the branches; he who abides in Me and I in him, he bears much fruit, for apart from Me you can do nothing" John 15:5).
The Word of God says "he who practices the truth comes to the Light, so that his deeds may be manifested as having been wrought in God" (John 3:21).
The Mighty God says ""you did not choose Me, but I chose you" (John 15:16) as well as "I chose you out of the world" (John 15:19, includes salvation).
The King of the Kingdom of God provides no exceptions to His choosing.
You just added that Adam had a choice into the Word of God recorded in Genesis 1:1-31 Genesis 2:1- 25 Genesis 3:1-24.
Furthermore, you just subtracted the Apostle Paul's writing that Adam did not willingly eat of the tree because Paul conveyed that nothing in creation willingly subjected anyting in creation to futility with Paul's writing of "the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly" (Romans 8:20).
It is written "do not add to His words or He will reprove you, and you will be proved a liar" (Proverbs 30:6).
Still, no free will written in the creation account (Genesis 1:1-31 Genesis 2:1- 25 Genesis 3:1-24), with Paul in accord for he conveyed that Adam "not willingly" ate of the tree since Paul included all time prior to Paul's birth by his writing "until now" (Romans 8:20-22).
Just as the original post shows richly in scripture, Adam was not imparted free will, and no man thereafter was imparted free will neither.
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Then you are off topic for this thread.
Still, no free will written in the creation account (Genesis 1:1-31 Genesis 2:1- 25 Genesis 3:1-24), with Paul in accord for he conveyed that Adam "not willingly" ate of the tree since Paul included all time prior to Paul's birth by his writing "until now" (Romans 8:20-22).
Just as the original post shows richly in scripture, Adam was not imparted free will, and no man thereafter was imparted free will neither.
not so.
you clearly don't understand Genesis 3: we need to fix that before you can competently discuss whether the scripture indicates man is created with free will.
so there are fundamental things 100% necessary and apropos to be discussed as a foundation for the essential thread topic. these things must be covered in order to have an intelligent conversation about the OP topic, but you are clearly not interested in making this a meaningful or useful thread. you just want a platform to parrot the theology you've been indoctrinated into.
briefly:
you're not ready to talk about the implications of Genesis 3 until you understand Genesis 3.
that's why i'm not addressing your pet idea yet. you ain't to the point where you can hear what there is to be said about it.
you don't get to skip arithmetic and expect to study calculus.
Ronald Nolette
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You wrote this lengthy epistle and forget that choices cause actions! Adam "chose" to eat , chose otr listen to His wife and then ate! choice produces actions.
Almost 11,000 posts for a totally inconsequential matter! Even a child would know that Adam had total free will.
I used placeholders to reference into your writing. You failed to recognize something so simple..
You wrote "the creation is the revealing of the redeemed".
Your "is" in "is the revealing" is present tense.
Paul wrote "the glory which shall be revealed in us" has a future tense verb phrase of "shall be revealed", so Paul did NOT use "revealed" as a noun as you wickedly asserted.
You used "is the revealing" which is present tense; on the other hand, Paul wrote "shall be revealed" which is future tense.
Even with the scripture right in front of you, you add to and/or subtract from scripture.
Go read the creation account recorded in Genesis 1:1-31 Genesis 2:1- 25 Genesis 3:1-24 and perhaps God will grant you wisdom.
Truly, as I pointed out:
Look at you @post trying to stuff words into Paul such that Romans 8:18-25 exclusively refers to "the ground being cursed".
The word "ground" does not appear in Romans 8:18-25.
Paul's use of the word "creation" in Romans 8:18-25 which is much broader in scope than your use of the word "ground".
In effect, you subtract "creation" from scripture; meanwhile, you add "ground".
I stated facts based on your writing.
This passage does NOT say "they turned to Him" (your words).
They were last reported as hiding themselves from God (Genesis 3:8) with no location nor posture change indicated thereafter until God clothed and removed them from the garden (Genesis 3:21-24).
This means scripture does not indicate that "they turned to Him" (your words).
This passage does NOT say "they turned to Him" (your words).
This passage does NOT say "they turned to Him" (your words).
They had not turned to God, and this is proved out by God's removal of them from the garden (Genesis 3:21-24), so they were put to shame of punishment.
The one who believes in God will never be put to shame (1 Peter 2:6).
There was NO name change as recorded in "called Woman" (Genesis 2:23) and "called his wife’s name Eve" (Genesis 3:20), so you are adding to and/or subtracting from scripture.
The Word of God says "you did not choose Me, but I chose you" (John 15:16) as well as "I chose you out of the world" (John 15:19, includes salvation).
I use free will to mean man choosing toward Lord Jesus Christ unto being saved from the wrath of God.
Based on the above Word of God, there is no free will in scripture.
God alone and by God's grace mercy and Power brings man to salvation.
You practice the lawlessness of adding Adam could exercise free will into the Word of God recorded in Genesis 1:1-31 Genesis 2:1- 25 Genesis 3:1-24.
Furthermore, you just subtracted the Apostle Paul's writing that Adam did not willingly eat of the tree because Paul conveyed that nothing in creation willingly subjected anyting in creation to futility with Paul's writing of "the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly" (Romans 8:20).
You proclaim "the word of you". For you adulterate the Word of God with "choose" such that it is no longer the Word of God.
Still, no free will written in the creation account (Genesis 1:1-31 Genesis 2:1- 25 Genesis 3:1-24), with Paul in accord for he conveyed that Adam "not willingly" ate of the tree since Paul included all time prior to Paul's birth by his writing "until now" (Romans 8:20-22).
Just as the original post shows richly in scripture, Adam was not imparted free will, and no man thereafter was imparted free will neither.
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Uh- uh... naughty, naughty. In your flesh you failed to see that I referred to you in the default state for people of being in the flesh, and the flesh is opposed to the Holy Spirit of God (Galatians 5:17).
Adam was in the flesh, too (Genesis 2:7, Genesis 2:23), before he ate, when he ate (Genesis 3:6), and after he ate.
Still, no free will written in the creation account (Genesis 1:1-31 Genesis 2:1- 25 Genesis 3:1-24), with Paul in accord for he conveyed that Adam "not willingly" ate of the tree since Paul included all time prior to Paul's birth by his writing "until now" (Romans 8:20-22).
Just as the original post shows richly in scripture, Adam was not imparted free will, and no man thereafter was imparted free will neither.
Your statement "your interpretation is contradicting scripture" is foolishness.
No scripture states Adam was deceived by his wife, so neither do I nor have I. You wickedly bear false witness against me.
Your foolishness against God for Adam eating of the forbidden tree for food is the CAUSE which you assign to freewill, yet the CAUSE for Adam eating of the forbidden tree for food is identified by the Word of God with "Because you have listened to the voice of your wife, and have eaten from the tree about which I commanded you, saying, 'You shall not eat from it'" (Genesis 3:17).
So the CAUSE was Adam listened to the voice of his wife and ate of the tree about which God commanded Adam "You shall not eat from it" (Genesis 3:17).
God covered Adam's flesh with garments, yet God did not remove Adam's flesh.
Adam had the shame of sin and the shame of punishment for his sin.
God did not erase Adam's shame for God removed Adam from the garden (Genesis 3:23-24).
So, your thoughts that Adam turned to God means that, according to you, in effect, God punished Adam by turning away Adam who turned to God; in other words, your writings reveal that you think God is unjust. Your free-willian philosophy is extremely wicked.
The Apostle Peter wrote "The one who believes in God will never be put to shame" (1 Peter 2:6), yet you claim Adam turned to God in Genesis 3:10 then God put Adam to shame after Genesis 3:10 for the scripture reveals that God pronounced the punishment, even the shameful for Adam punishment, in Genesis 3:17-19. Behold that you subtract the Apostle Peter's writing in 1 Peter 2:6!
Nonetheless, no scripture indicates that Adam turned to God.
You think your word is so very important that you dictate to God as you add to and subtract from scripture.
Still, no free will written in the creation account (Genesis 1:1-31 Genesis 2:1- 25 Genesis 3:1-24), with Paul in accord for he conveyed that Adam "not willingly" ate of the tree since Paul included all time prior to Paul's birth by his writing "until now" (Romans 8:20-22).
Just as the original post shows richly in scripture, Adam was not imparted free will, and no man thereafter was imparted free will neither.
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I proclaim the Word of God to you for the Word of God is the Power of God unto salvation for all that receive the work of God which is believing in Jesus whom the Father has sent and no part of God's salvation is the work of man but God's salvation is God's grace and God's mercy (Romans 1:16, John 6:29, Ephesians 2:8-10).
You have NO control over salvation, yet you claim you do control God by forcing God to give you salvation by your purported choice of Jesus, and your scripturally-contradictory claim is a very wicked claim.
There is no level that a person can choose Lord Jesus because He says "you did not choose Me, but I chose you" (John 15:16) as well as "I chose you out of the world" (John 15:19, includes salvation) - Jesus, being God, did not provide any exception for choosing toward Jesus. Lord Jesus speaks to all believers in all time because He also said "I do not ask on behalf of these alone, but for those also who believe in Me through their word" (John 17:20)! All these words of Jesus are at the same supper! All glory is God's! With man, salvation is impossible (Matthew 19:25-26)! All glory in the salvation of man is God's (John 15:5, Isaiah 42:8, Psalm 3:8)!
Still, no free will written in the creation account (Genesis 1:1-31 Genesis 2:1- 25 Genesis 3:1-24), with Paul in accord for he conveyed that Adam "not willingly" ate of the tree since Paul included all time prior to Paul's birth by his writing "until now" (Romans 8:20-22).
Just as the original post shows richly in scripture, Adam was not imparted free will, and no man thereafter was imparted free will neither.
It is written "do not add to His words or He will reprove you, and you will be proved a liar" (Proverbs 30:6).
You proved yourself a liar when you wrote "You can see choice all through Genesis 3" because the English word "choose" has a Hebrew word equivalent of "בָּחר" (bachar -Strong's Number 977), yet the Hebrew word "בָּחר" does not occur in the creation account (Genesis 1:1-31 Genesis 2:1- 25 Genesis 3:1-24).
Still, no free will written in the creation account (Genesis 1:1-31 Genesis 2:1- 25 Genesis 3:1-24), with Paul in accord for he conveyed that Adam "not willingly" ate of the tree since Paul included all time prior to Paul's birth by his writing "until now" (Romans 8:20-22).
Just as the original post shows richly in scripture, Adam was not imparted free will, and no man thereafter was imparted free will neither.
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You want to do what you are doing for it is written "the flesh desires against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh. For these are opposed to one another" (Galatians 5:17).
Apparently, you do not know my belief because I wrote that you do just as the Apostle Paul wrote with "You will say to me then, “Why does He still find fault? For who resists His will?" (Romans 9:19).
What a high and lofty opinion you have of yourself that you claim that you are sufficiently almighty to resist Almighty God's will!
No purpose of God's can be thwarted (Job 42:2), yet @Renniks claims to be able to thwart God.
Still, no free will written in the creation account (Genesis 1:1-31 Genesis 2:1- 25 Genesis 3:1-24), with Paul in accord for he conveyed that Adam "not willingly" ate of the tree since Paul included all time prior to Paul's birth by his writing "until now" (Romans 8:20-22).
Just as the original post shows richly in scripture, Adam was not imparted free will, and no man thereafter was imparted free will neither.
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