Matthew 28:19 – Trinity corrupted verse

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

So let me see if I understand you correctly Barney.

You “don’t trust” what is written in the Didache (written in the time of the Apostles) by Christian men of the 1st century but you do trust what is written by Christian men in the 21st century 2,000 years removed from the time of the Apostles? I don’t understand that....

As I said, the Didache is a document that nobody knows who wrote. The scholars and experts say that they don't know who wrote the Didache . So whoever wrote this document that is the person or person's that is saying the Apostles were the ones who wrote all the things contained in the Didache. That doesn't mean that's true.
Also the Didache isn't the inspired word of God. Other people may put this document and what it contains before what's written down in the scriptures and that's their choice, but I will not. If a religious document is in agreement of what's written down in the scriptures I have no problem with that document. It's the scriptures that are inspired of God not the Didache. Plus no one knew of this document existence until it was discovered by a Greek Orthodox bishop named Philotheos Bryennios in Turkey in 1873.
As I said, I have no problem with any religious documents that goes along with what's written down in the scriptures but it seems to me that people care more about what's written by men than what's written down in scripture. In several places in the scriptures it says the Apostles baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. I see nothing wrong with that.
The issue I have is, when people who are baptized in the name of Jesus but then some people come and try to reason in such a way that these people who were baptized in the name of Jesus Christ were not baptized properly simply and only because the words, in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit were not expressed when they were baptized. It's as though these people who speak out against people who were/are baptized in the name of Jesus Christ detest the name Jesus Christ.
I will continue to say that if a person is baptized in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit or baptized in the name of Jesus Christ it's exceptable. I will continue to speak out against those who speak out against anyone who is baptized in the name of Jesus Christ simply and only because the words, in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit were not expressed when the person/persons were baptized.

 

[theefaith]

Saint Gabriel’s greeting to Our Lady is one of the most beautiful hymns which we can possibly sing to the glory of the Most High. “I will sing a new song to you” (Ps. 143:9). This new hymn which David foretold was to be sung at the coming of the Messiah is none other than the Angelic Salutation.

There is an old hymn and a new hymn: the first is that which the Jews sang out of gratitude to God for creating them and maintaining them in existence — for delivering them from captivity and leading them safely through the Red Sea — for giving them manna to eat and for all His other blessings.

The new hymn is that which Christians sing in thanksgiving for the graces of the Incarnation and the Redemption. As these marvels were brought about by the Angelic Salutation, so do we repeat the same salutation to thank the Most Blessed Trinity for His immeasurable goodness to us.

We praise God the Father because He so loved the world that He gave us His only Son as our Savior. We bless the Son because He deigned to leave heaven and come down upon earth — because HE WAS MADE Man and redeemed us. We glorify the Holy Spirit because he formed Our Lord’s pure Body in Our Lady’s Womb — this Body which was the Victim of our sins. In this spirit of deep thankfulness should we, then, always say the Hail Mary, making acts of faith, hope, love, and thanksgiving for the priceless gift of salvation.

Although this new hymn is in praise of the Mother of God and is sung directly to her, nevertheless it greatly glorifies the Most Blessed Trinity because any homage that we pay Our Lady returns inevitably to God Who is the cause of all her virtues and perfections. When we honor Our Lady: God the Father is glorified because we are honoring the most perfect of His Creatures; God the Son is glorified because we are praising His most pure Mother, and God the Holy Spirit is glorified because we are lost in admiration at the graces with which He has filled His Spouse.

When we praise and bless Our Lady by saying the Angelic Salutation she always passes on these praises to Almighty God in the same way as she did when she was praised by Saint Elizabeth. The latter blessed her in her most elevated dignity as Mother of God and Our Lady immediately returned the praises to God by her beautiful Magnificat. Just as the Angelic Salutation gives glory to the Blessed Trinity, it is also the very highest praise that we can give Our Lady.

 

[BroRando]

Saint Gabriel’s greeting to Our Lady is one of the most beautiful hymns which we can possibly sing to the glory of the Most High. “I will sing a new song to you” (Ps. 143:9). This new hymn which David foretold was to be sung at the coming of the Messiah is none other than the Angelic Salutation.

There is an old hymn and a new hymn: the first is that which the Jews sang out of gratitude to God for creating them and maintaining them in existence — for delivering them from captivity and leading them safely through the Red Sea — for giving them manna to eat and for all His other blessings.

The new hymn is that which Christians sing in thanksgiving for the graces of the Incarnation and the Redemption. As these marvels were brought about by the Angelic Salutation, so do we repeat the same salutation to thank the Most Blessed Trinity for His immeasurable goodness to us.

We praise God the Father because He so loved the world that He gave us His only Son as our Savior. We bless the Son because He deigned to leave heaven and come down upon earth — because HE WAS MADE Man and redeemed us. We glorify the Holy Spirit because he formed Our Lord’s pure Body in Our Lady’s Womb — this Body which was the Victim of our sins. In this spirit of deep thankfulness should we, then, always say the Hail Mary, making acts of faith, hope, love, and thanksgiving for the priceless gift of salvation.

Although this new hymn is in praise of the Mother of God and is sung directly to her, nevertheless it greatly glorifies the Most Blessed Trinity because any homage that we pay Our Lady returns inevitably to God Who is the cause of all her virtues and perfections. When we honor Our Lady: God the Father is glorified because we are honoring the most perfect of His Creatures; God the Son is glorified because we are praising His most pure Mother, and God the Holy Spirit is glorified because we are lost in admiration at the graces with which He has filled His Spouse.

When we praise and bless Our Lady by saying the Angelic Salutation she always passes on these praises to Almighty God in the same way as she did when she was praised by Saint Elizabeth. The latter blessed her in her most elevated dignity as Mother of God and Our Lady immediately returned the praises to God by her beautiful Magnificat. Just as the Angelic Salutation gives glory to the Blessed Trinity, it is also the very highest praise that we can give Our Lady.

If Mary is the Mother of Almighty God, doesn't that make four gods? A Blessed Quadinity? So are you now teaching a 4 in 1 god? 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 = 1? Tell that to your math teacher.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

This doesn't justify human tradition trumping scripture. Too many people want people to follow imperfect men and what they say rather than going by what is written down in scripture. I don't know what other people will choose to do and that's their choice what they choose to do but I'll always believe the scriptures trump human tradition

And you forget that the wrfiters I cited were giving the triune formula long long before they supposedly changed the text- Sorry but you can't say it is men and be right about it.

 

[BroRando]

And you forget that the wrfiters I cited were giving the triune formula long long before they supposedly changed the text- Sorry but you can't say it is men and be right about it.

I would love see the scripture that states three sperate persons make up one God. I can show you a scripture that claims Jehovah is the true God. (Jerimiah 10:10)

 

[Ronald Nolette]

I would love see the scripture that states three sperate persons make up one God. I can show you a scripture that claims Jehovah is the true God. (Jerimiah 10:10)

And I can show you from Scripture that Jesus is Jehovah and the Holy Spirit is Jehovah as well ( in a Hebrew New TEstament). I have been defending Scripture for decades now and so far you and the JW's here all show superficial stuff that doesn't stand up to even a casual search in the Scriptures.

 

[BroRando]

And I can show you from Scripture that Jesus is Jehovah and the Holy Spirit is Jehovah as well ( in a Hebrew New TEstament). I have been defending Scripture for decades now and so far you and the JW's here all show superficial stuff that doesn't stand up to even a casual search in the Scriptures.

That's interesting, the trinitarian who can't show the trinity doctrine from the Bible now claims Modalism and rejects Jesus is the Christ the Son of the living God. (Matthew 16:16) ??

No more three separate persons heh?? But Jesus is Jehovah?

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

And you forget that the wrfiters I cited were giving the triune formula long long before they supposedly changed the text- Sorry but you can't say it is men and be right about it.

Sorry Ronald but the Didache isn't the inspired word of God. I know you're going to put human tradition first not what's written down in scripture, that's your choice

 

[theefaith]

If Mary is the Mother of Almighty God, doesn't that make four gods? A Blessed Quadinity? So are you now teaching a 4 in 1 god? 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 = 1? Tell that to your math teacher.

mother of God not mother of the divine nature
Only mother of Jesus who is God
And our salvation Lk 2:30 mother of our salvation

only one God uncreated and eternal in three persons

Mary is not God

 

[David in NJ]

I would love see the scripture that states three sperate persons make up one God. I can show you a scripture that claims Jehovah is the true God. (Jerimiah 10:10)

It is a commandment by God for all generations that He is to be referred to by 3 separate individuals = Abraham, Isaac and Jacob

And God said to Moses, “I AM WHO I AM.” And He said, “Thus you shall say to the children of Israel, ‘I AM has sent me to you.’ ” 15 Moreover God said to Moses, “Thus you shall say to the children of Israel: ‘The Lord God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you. This is My name forever and this is My memorial to all generations.’

“Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel, And his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts: ‘I am the First and I am the Last; Besides Me there is no God.
Isaiah 44:6
“I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,” says the Lord, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.” Rev 1:8
I (Jesus) am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.” Revelations 22:13

Jesus is King of kings and HE is our Redeemer - look it up

Abraham - Father
Isaac - Only begotten Son of the Father
Jacob - Holy Spirit

 

[BroRando]

mother of God not mother of the divine nature
Only mother of Jesus who is God
And our salvation Lk 2:30 mother of our salvation

only one God uncreated and eternal in three persons

Mary is not God

I believe in the Deity of Christ. Deity is a Feminine Noun because Jesus was begotten or brought forth as with labor pains by Jehovah, His God and Father.

Strong's Concordance
theotés: deity
Original Word: θεότης, ητος, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: theotés
Phonetic Spelling: (theh-ot'-ace)
Definition: deity
Usage: deity, Godhead.

A few other Feminine Nouns describing the nature and essence of Jesus Christ as being brought forth from the Father. I also believe in Grace. We have grace because of whom? Grace because Christ died for our sins.

Strong's Concordance
charis: grace, kindness
Original Word: χάρις, ιτος, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: charis
Phonetic Spelling: (khar'-ece)
Definition: grace, kindness
Usage: (a) grace, as a gift or blessing brought to man by Jesus Christ, (b) favor, (c) gratitude, thanks, (d) a favor, kindness.

 

[Wrangler]

Hi Wrangler,

How does Luke 10:16 and John 20:23 and the Council of Jerusalem fit into your teaching?

Mary

I can answer about Scripture but am unfamiliar with the Council of Jerusalem. Before I answer, how do you rank Councils in comparison to Scripture?

Spiritually blind fundamentalists don’t believe in authority or apostles or the councils, only spiritual anarchy

Resorting to insults shows you've lost the argument. And telling others what I believe is in bad form. Putting aside denomination, there is spiritual anarchy among people who are at different points along the spiritual journey. God allows this. Catholics should also.

 

[BroRando]

It is a commandment by God for all generations that He is to be referred to by 3 separate individuals = Abraham, Isaac and Jacob

And God said to Moses, “I AM WHO I AM.” And He said, “Thus you shall say to the children of Israel, ‘I AM has sent me to you.’ ” 15 Moreover God said to Moses, “Thus you shall say to the children of Israel: ‘The Lord God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you. This is My name forever and this is My memorial to all generations.’

“Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel, And his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts: ‘I am the First and I am the Last; Besides Me there is no God.
Isaiah 44:6
“I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,” says the Lord, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.” Rev 1:8
I (Jesus) am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.” Revelations 22:13

Jesus is King of kings and HE is our Redeemer - look it up

Abraham - Father
Isaac - Only begotten Son of the Father
Jacob - Holy Spirit

Sorry. Nothing you quoted states three sperate persons make up one God.

 

[BroRando]

“I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,” says the Lord, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.” Rev 1:8

(Rev 1:8) is a Corrupt Verse. Scriptures that trinitarians Don't Want You to Know About - #2

Notice how the scripture was watered down over time. Anyways... Jesus is not even in (Rev 1:8)

I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith Jehovah God which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Switched to:
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the LORD God which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Switched to:
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the LORD which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Switched to:
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

 

[Wrangler]

what real good is the Bible alone when you present the verse they say it is as corrupted???

Ha! The truth is OUT despite all trinitarian attempts to impose its inherently contradictory doctrine onto unitarian text.

 

[David in NJ]

(Rev 1:8) is a Corrupt Verse. Scriptures that trinitarians Don't Want You to Know About - #2

Notice how the scripture was watered down over time. Anyways... Jesus is not even in (Rev 1:8)

I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith Jehovah God which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Switched to:
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the LORD God which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Switched to:
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the LORD which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Switched to:
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

lol x3 = Jesus is not in Rev 1:8 just like Jesus is not in John 1:1 - You guys and your jokes are too funny.

Nothing like denying His Reality - Try reading - And the Word became flesh.....

 

[David in NJ]

(Rev 1:8) is a Corrupt Verse. Scriptures that trinitarians Don't Want You to Know About - #2

Notice how the scripture was watered down over time. Anyways... Jesus is not even in (Rev 1:8)

I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith Jehovah God which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Switched to:
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the LORD God which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Switched to:
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the LORD which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Switched to:
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2 The same was in the beginning with God.

3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.

7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.

8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.

9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.

10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.

11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

 

[Wrangler]

Jesus is not in Rev 1:8 just like Jesus is not in John 1:1

You got it! Of course, trinitarians see 3 behind every blade of grass. So, there is that.

 

[BroRando]

lol x3 = Jesus is not in Rev 1:8 just like Jesus is not in John 1:1 - You guys and your jokes are too funny.

Nothing like denying His Reality - Try reading - And the Word became flesh.....

I believe in the Deity of Christ. Deity is a Feminine Noun because Jesus was begotten or brought forth as with labor pains by Jehovah, His God and Father.

Strong's Concordance
theotés: deity
Original Word: θεότης, ητος, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: theotés
Phonetic Spelling: (theh-ot'-ace)
Definition: deity
Usage: deity, Godhead.

A few other Feminine Nouns describing the nature and essence of Jesus Christ as being brought forth from the Father. I also believe in Grace. We have grace because of whom? Grace because Christ died for our sins.

Strong's Concordance
charis: grace, kindness
Original Word: χάρις, ιτος, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: charis
Phonetic Spelling: (khar'-ece)
Definition: grace, kindness
Usage: (a) grace, as a gift or blessing brought to man by Jesus Christ, (b) favor, (c) gratitude, thanks, (d) a favor, kindness.

John 1:1c points to his Divine Nature, his Deity...theos

Strong's Concordance
theos: God, a god
Original Word: θεός, οῦ, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine; Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: theos
Phonetic Spelling: (theh'-os)
Definition: God, a god
Usage: (a) God, (b) a god, generally.

John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

 

[David in NJ]

You got it! Of course, trinitarians see 3 behind every blade of grass. So, there is that.

If you reject God's commandment given to ALL Generations - FOREVER in Exodus 3:14-15
Then you are only left with a baseless argument and even worse - adding too and taking away from God's Words. This will bring anyone into Judgement before Jehovah(Jesus).