I do appreciate the substance our your posts, and arguments learned from Scripture, rather than simply dismissing things out of hand and not addressing them at all. Your research is more scholarly than mine by far, because I see things you write, that I have never studied. So in a way, I am doing round end run, that does not include such scholarship study, to go straight to the heart of Scripture by inspiration of Scripture.You can't try to change what Lord Jesus' Book of Revelation is about. It's the end cover of God's Word, and has many parallels to events in Genesis, the front cover of God's Word.
And ALL... of God's Word is spiritual, because it contains God's Plan of Salvation through His Son Jesus Christ. But spiritual does NOT... mean philosophical. The style of writing of Revelation with its many symbols is no different than the Books of the prophets. So those who show their lack of understanding of those symbols only show their lack of Old Testament study of God's prophets.
God uses symbols, allegories, metaphors, parable, idioms... to make it EASIER to understand His Word. All languages use that, so that method is very common to all peoples. (He knows how we express ourselves in languages). And those things the majority of time are about natural things He created easy to understand that the majority of people USED to know (like agriculture and things in nature He created).
And it's very easy to know when a parable or metaphor is given pointing to something else that is real. The locusts of Joel 1 for example. God's uses how real locusts in nature attack His people in the Book of Joel. But He lets us know He is not speaking of real locusts, but about a certain "nation" that only operates like real locusts, metaphorically speaking. What's difficult about that???
No, it's the crept in unawares that God allows to creep into the Churches that are not aware, to test His people with. Those preacher types push all sorts of spiritualistic philosophizing when preaching God's Word, and turn God's Word into a modern version of Funny Farm, and then speak about Aunt Edna for half an hour. Those will have their reward when Lord Jesus comes, and I do feel sorry for what they do. But God did not call those.
Metaphors, parable, etc., in God's Word always give a whole lot more information than it takes up to declare the parable. Lord Jesus showed this many times in The Gospels. Most all of them in The New Testament were covered first in The Old Testament Books. So there again, it's kind of easy to know who has done their homework in God's Word or not.
You can't try to change what Lord Jesus' Book of Revelation is about
True, but I can and do change what I believe Revelation is about. You do not agree, because you still have your own belief of what it is about, and we both offer Scriptures to support our belief.
And so, I am not attempting to 'change' what Scripture is about, but rather have changed by Scripture my thinking on what Scripture is about.
What you object to is not me trying to change Scripture, but me giving Scripture and conclusions that do not agree with what you believe Scripture is about, which I also once believed, and now reject. To show I am 'changing' Scripture, you must be specific: in any single point I make, give Scripture to demonstrate it's error. If so, I will thank you for your help in perfecting my understanding of Scripture, especially of Scriptural prophecy.
Also, we know and agree on what Revelation is about, before the end of the old heaven and earth: the last great tribulation on earth before the Lord's return, with open warfare being made against the saints of God to destroy the faith of Jesus from the earth. There will be a faithful remnant for the Lord to resurrect with them that died in the Lord (Rev 14:13). There will be God's righteous judgement with plagues and powerful events to punish them that made war with the saints. And there will be a return of the Lord in the air with clouds and saints, to fight and win the final battle of the Lord before His reign on earth.
Who it is about, and how that warfare is fought is what we disagree on. I say it is spiritual warfare by false ministry to destroy the faith of Jesus, and you say, unless I am mistaken, that it is national leadership seeking to destroy the 'Jews' one last time, before the Lord's return to finally redeem all Israel, and establish His reign on earth with the seed of Abraham serving Him in a priestly fashion in the land promised to Abraham and His seed.
The only 'Jews' warred against and redeemed by the Redeemer are them inwardly circumcised by the Redeemer. And any Israel after the flesh left alive at the Lord's return and reign, will be divided up between sheep and goats, along with the rest of them born after the flesh and not after the Spirit.