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Actually Jesus said that, not Yahweh.
No, what I'm saying, this isn't just a "belief system". If it were, I'd agree with you, what's the difference? You can talk yourself into anything, right? But what I'm saying is that God changes you, who and what you are, if you want Him to.

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No, what I'm saying, this isn't just a "belief system". If it were, I'd agree with you, what's the difference? You can talk yourself into anything, right? But what I'm saying is that God changes you, who and what you are, if you want Him to.

Much love!
Yes, you can talk yourself into anything. Other people can also talk you into anything, and you can talk anyone into anything as well. But that's the power of belief itself. Because a belief doesn't require fact checking, or a lengthy examination of any evidence against what the person feels strongly about. That is where the seat of belief sits, as scientific investigation has identified "Belief's are dominated by the emotional side of the brain" So in regard to that, changing ones character with a belief based system, or a naturalistic system will have very different outcomes on the human mind.
 

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Yes, you can talk yourself into anything. Other people can also talk you into anything, and you can talk anyone into anything as well. But that's the power of belief itself. Because a belief doesn't require fact checking, or a lengthy examination of any evidence against what the person feels strongly about. That is where the seat of belief sits, as scientific investigation has identified "Belief's are dominated by the emotional side of the brain" So in regard to that, changing ones character with a belief based system, or a naturalistic system will have very different outcomes on the human mind.
Naturalistic system?

What did you have in mind?

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Actually Jesus said that, not Yahweh.
Yahweh is the Father. In Isaiah 9, the Son is called Everlasting Father. God is 3, and yet He is One.
Our finite brains have difficulty grasping Him.
 

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These are the spirits of dead nephilim. Demons. Jesus dealt with them all the time.
And so should we.
Yes, demons aren’t fallen angels, for they don’t seek to inhabit bodies, they can appear in one. Spirits of the dead giants do seek a body to inhabit.

Ironically it’s fallen angels that procreated the giant hybrids.

And BTW that’s where giant dinosaurs came from. Fallen angels committing beastiality.
 

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You believed that you believed. Then you stopped believing.
I believe as a direct result of a supernatural encounter with God.
You don't believe that.
Early on, I got some wrong teaching that led me to believe I wasn't able to obtain a scriptural level for salvation. So I decided that if I was going to hell anyway, I may as well enjoy this life while I still could. The problem was that I still believed. Try as I might, I couldn't stop believing. It ruined my fun, that's for sure.
Anyway, to make a long story short, in early 1994, beaten by my cocaine addiction, I turned back to God. I sought Him out of sheer desperation for four months, and then I found Him. My heart has never turned away from Him since, even though I've had two I.V. drug relapses, and even ended up with a hooker one night. Of course He wasn't pleased, but when I sincerely asked Him to forgive me, He did.
The good news? After screwing up everything I was given by Him, I tried to kill myself. It's been 21 years since I last tried to end my life, and it's been 16 and 17 years since I touched a woman or a needle. In spite of myself, He is making progress with me. I'm not where I'm going, but I'm sure glad that I'm not where I was.
 

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Jesus Messiah dwells within me...I have His authority...over all the power of the enemy!

True, angels don’t have Gods indwelling spirit. Believers have Dunamis power if they have the baptism in the Holy Ghost.
 
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Yes, demons aren’t fallen angels, for they don’t seek to inhabit bodies, they can appear in one. Spirits of the dead giants do seek a body to inhabit.

Ironically it’s fallen angels that procreated the giant hybrids.

And BTW that’s where giant dinosaurs came from. Fallen angels committing beastiality.
I'll say that demons do inhabit bodies. They call us houses, or containers. They like to enjoy lusts through people, just like they did while they still had their angel/human hybrid bodies. Giants are one form of Nephilim. The KJV half-missed it here.
Most giants were/are Nephilim, but not all Nephilim were/are giants. Those fallen angels are super-scientists.
 

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You believed that you believed. Then you stopped believing.
I believe as a direct result of a supernatural encounter with God.
You don't believe that.
Early on, I got some wrong teaching that led me to believe I wasn't able to obtain a scriptural level for salvation. So I decided that if I was going to hell anyway, I may as well enjoy this life while I still could. The problem was that I still believed. Try as I might, I couldn't stop believing. It ruined my fun, that's for sure.
Anyway, to make a long story short, in early 1994, beaten by my cocaine addiction, I turned back to God. I sought Him out of sheer desperation for four months, and then I found Him. My heart has never turned away from Him since, even though I've had two I.V. drug relapses, and even ended up with a hooker one night. Of course He wasn't pleased, but when I sincerely asked Him to forgive me, He did.
The good news? After screwing up everything I was given by Him, I tried to kill myself. It's been 21 years since I last tried to end my life, and it's been 16 and 17 years since I touched a woman or a needle. In spite of myself, He is making progress with me. I'm not where I'm going, but I'm sure glad that I'm not where I was.
Amen.
 

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(Which in reality you are still using a belief to achieve that end)

Have any of you fine believer's not noticed that our world is being torn apart by the beliefs we keep?
Read the Bible, it’s full of prophecy - the end time events are indeed unfolding, as predicted, and as expected.

In fact bible prophecy confirms the Bible is from God.
 

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Naturalistic system?

What did you have in mind?

Much love!
Let us learn accurately how our natural world made us to function, and in unison with everything everything else nature made. That's what I meant by naturalistic. Not that we worship nature, because that's another belief based system.
 

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Read the Bible, it’s full of prophecy - the end time events are indeed unfolding, as predicted, and as expected.

In fact bible prophecy confirms the Bible is from God.
So is The Simpsons cartoon.