The problem with the thousand years?

[Truth7t7]

Wrong, the devil is bound for the same 1000 years(simultaneously) that the Lord is reigning on earth during His millennial reign.

No such thing as a literal Millennial Kingdom on this earth in scripture found,are you going to take (The Souls) and (The Dead) in Revelation 20:4-6 and claim they are on this earth in a Millennial Kingdom?

Big Smiles!

 

[Marty fox]

The scripture below discredits your claims, God is sovereign as you have shown in several previous posts, the Alpha and Omega, all knowing and omnipresent

Of course the all knowing God has predestined vessels to honor, to claim otherwise is Alice in Wonderland

Romans 9:20-23KJV
20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,

God has given us all free will but He also knows who will do what and He invest in the righteous

 

[Truth7t7]

God has given us all free will but He also knows who will do what and He invest in the righteous

God has given free will, but he knows what vessels were created to honor and dishonor?

Absolutely God knows, the Alpha/Omega

A little Marty back track, not denying God is all knowing, good choice Marty

Next step in truth, deny Gentry's 70AD fulfillment in not denying the literal second coming is seen in Matthew 24:30

It's just a Ken Gentry Judgement upon Jerusalem, Big Head Shake And Rolling Eyes

 

[Marty fox]

Wrong, the devil is bound for the same 1000 years(simultaneously) that the Lord is reigning on earth during His millennial reign.

Did you see post #43?

 

[Marty fox]

God has given free will, but he knows what vessels were created to honor and dishonor?

Absolutely God knows, the Alpha/Omega

A little Marty back track, not denying God is all knowing, good choice Marty

Next step in truth, deny Gentry's 70AD fulfillment in

Next step, not denying the literal second coming is seen in Matthew 24:30

It's just a Ken Gentry Judgement upon Jerusalem, really

I’m confused here Why would you say I back tracked?

 

[Marty fox]

@Marty fox what do see as being a vessel of mercy?

The saints

 

[Truth7t7]

I’m confused here Why would you say I back tracked?

Marty you have openly stated God gives man "Free Will" and in the same breath you state "he knows who will do what", Big Smiles!

Of course God knows, hes the potter that has created vessels to honor and dishonor, knowing the ole who will do what, more Big Smiles

Gentry is a false teacher, the same applies to Hal Lindsey, John Hagee, and the other false teachers in dispensationalism

Will you be the vessel to question Gods sovereignty?

 

[Marty fox]

Marty you have openly stated God gives man "Free Will" and in the same breath you state "he knows who will do what", Big Smiles!

Of course God knows, hes the potter that has created vessels to honor and dishonor, the ole who will do what, more Big Smiles

Gentry is a false teacher, the same applies to Hal Lindsey, John Hagee, and the other false teachers in dispensationalism

Will you be the vessel to question Gods sovereignty?

What’s wrong with saying that God gives us free will but also knows what we will do? That’s not a contradiction it’s two different things

 

[Truth7t7]

What’s wrong with saying that God gives us free will but also knows what we will do? That’s not a contradiction it’s two different things

The God that gives what you call free will, created the vessel that he already knows will be to honor and dishonor

Free Will is in your minute human perception, God is sovereign and knows the creation and outcome of the vessel

Will you be the vessel to question Gods sovereignty?

Will you also symbolize the clear words of God below?

Romans 9:20-21KJV
20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?

 

[Truther]

No such thing as a literal Millennial Kingdom on this earth in scripture found,are you going to take (The Souls) and (The Dead) in Revelation 20:4-6 and claim they are on this earth in a Millennial Kingdom?

Big Smiles!

Yes....

20 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.

2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

 

[Truther]

Back to the OP

Satan's binding ends in verse 7 when he is released.

Jesus' reigning over this world ends in verse 11 on the resurrection day verse 5 tells us that.

The rest of the dead are not participants in the 1000 year reign or any reign.

They first appear at the great white throne.

 

[Truther]

Thanks I think I'm done debating with him. There is a difference in having a different interpretation of scripture and out right lying

Truth7t7 get's stressed out in debates.

 

[marks]

You mean like those that claim (The Souls) and (The Dead) in Revelation 20:4-6 are on this earth in a Millennium "Big Smiles"!

It's a fabricated fairy tale of man, dont be deceived!

The Antichrit is going to Fulfill the Messiah to rule in a future Millennium, are you blind?

So do you understand about the "uncertain affinity" then? Or do you plan to keep posting that as if it meant something else?

Much love!

 

[Marty fox]

The rest of the dead are not participants in the 1000 year reign or any reign.

They first appear at the great white throne.

Rev 20:5 says that they come back to life at the great white throne but satan is released before that in verse 7 thus the binding ends before the reigning

 

[Marty fox]

The God that gives what you call free will, created the vessel that he already knows will be to honor and dishonor

Free Will is in your minute human perception, God is sovereign and knows the creation and outcome of the vessel

Will you be the vessel to question Gods sovereignty?

Will you also symbolize the clear words of God below?

Romans 9:20-21KJV
20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?

Humm did you actually read what I said LOL.

God knows what we will do which is much different than Him making us do something

 

[Truth7t7]

Yes....

20 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.

2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

Can you find the things claimed by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 below?

1.) Physical Earthly Kingdom?
2.) Physical Earthly Throne?
3.) Physical Mortal Humans?

The Above Claims (Don't Exist)

Revelation 20:1-6 Is 100% In The Lords (Spiritual) Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ

100% Spiritual Realm, No "Literal" Time

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Revelation 20:1-6KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

 

[Truther]

Rev 20:5 says that they come back to life at the great white throne but satan is released before that in verse 7 thus the binding ends before the reigning

He is released at the last portion of the millennial reign to challenge the Lord.
The dead that were not part of the first resurrection are raised after the end comes.

 

[Truther]

Can you find the things claimed by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 below?

1.) Physical Earthly Kingdom?
2.) Physical Earthly Throne?
3.) Physical Mortal Humans?

The Above Claims (Don't Exist)

Revelation 20:1-6 Is 100% In The Lords (Spiritual) Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ

100% Spiritual Realm, No "Literal" Time

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Revelation 20:1-6KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Are you a preterist?

 

[Truth7t7]

Are you a preterist?

No, preterism in 70AD fulfillment is a false teaching, just as I believe dispensationalism is

Daniel's 70 weeks are 490 literal future days,and will begin at a future command to build

In the literal 70th week the Man Of Sin/Antichrist will be revealed, at this point the 3.5 year tribulation takes place, the Church will be upon earth

Two Witnesses as seen in Revelation 11 will bring literal plagues upon the beast and world, a remake of Moses/Aaron against Pharaoh of Egypt

The two Witnesses will be killed at the end of the tribulation, lay dead in Jerusalems street for 3.5 days, then they are raised and called to heaven as the world watches

Same hour the great earthquake 2nd woe past, as the 3rd woe comes quickly in the 7th trump second coming (The End) Revelation 11:18 the (Final Judgement)

 

[Truther]

No, preterism in 70AD fulfillment is a false teaching, just as I believe dispensationalism is

Daniel's 70 weeks are 490 literal future days,and will begin at a future command to build

In the literal 70th week the Man Of Sin/Antichrist will be revealed, at this point the 3.5 year tribulation takes place, the Church will be upon earth

Two Witnesses as seen in Revelation 11 will bring literal plagues upon the beast and world, a remake of Moses/Aaron against Pharaoh of Egypt

The two Witnesses will be killed at the end of the tribulation, lay dead in Jerusalems street for 3.5 days, then they are raised and called to heaven as the world watches

Same hour the great earthquake 2nd woe past, as the 3rd woe comes quickly in the 7th trump second coming (The End) Revelation 11:18 the (Final Judgement)

Good, you’re not a preterist. Are you a pre, mid or post trib rapture teacher?