"Trust Them - Just Take The Vaccine?"

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quietthinker

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I'm a peace-loving man who loves to tell others about the amazing love of God. But at a certain point, if you threaten my friends and loved ones, my attitude quickly changes to, "Over my dead body!" I'm learning something new about myself...I'm like my dad, the Nazi killer!
Lol, there we see the old man resurfacing with a vengeance in spite of thinking we are ‘peace loving’
To recognise this at this juncture is the opportunity to run to Jesus with our failure, to plead for the new heart he promised so when this so called righteous anger surfaces it does not rein in our reality.
 
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Lol, there we see the old man resurfacing with a vengeance in spite of thinking we are ‘peace loving’
To recognise this at this juncture is the opportunity to run to Jesus with our failure, to plead for the new heart he promised so when this so called righteous anger surfaces it does not rein in our reality.
What are you, a Nazi? Just because I have the courage to defend my family does not give you the right to spew such ignorant garbage my way!
 

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No, but I am almost certain you are. I used to be a pacifist until I stopped being afraid of my shadow.
 

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These conspiracy posts are dangerously irresponsible and wouldn't be tolerated on major social media platforms.
Is Dr. Joel Hirschhorn a "conspiracy theorist"? Did you read what he had to say in post #244 (link provided)? I can understand the evil social media trying to censor the truth, but if Christians can be duped by the lying media, public health agencies, and vaccine manufacturers, then that is the end of truth.

You claim that the vaccines are legitimate, which means that you have failed to properly examine (1) their contents, (2) their bogus trials, and (3) their failure to give FULL DISCLOSURE as required by the Nuremberg Code. Since you are familiar with biological sciences (as I am also) you should already know that no legit vaccine has ever been produced within a matter of months and without proper and rigorous testing. Indeed no previous vaccine has ever generated the number of deaths produced by these lethal injections. Check it out for yourself.
 
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In 1 John we find the simple statement "no lie is of the truth."
If you're participating in propagating a lie, what does that say about your relationship with Christ?
 

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Didn't realize we had communists on this site. Now I do.
You could've left me alone and let me have my say, but no, you couldn't do it.
Hence, the problem!
 
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Is Dr. Joel Hirschhorn a "conspiracy theorist"? Did you read what he had to say in post #244 (link provided)? I can understand the evil social media trying to censor the truth, but if Christians can be duped by the lying media, public health agencies, and vaccine manufacturers, then that is the end of truth.

You claim that the vaccines are legitimate, which means that you have failed to properly examine (1) their contents, (2) their bogus trials, and (3) their failure to give FULL DISCLOSURE as required by the Nuremberg Code. Since you are familiar with biological sciences (as I am also) you should already know that no legit vaccine has ever been produced within a matter of months and without proper and rigorous testing. Indeed no previous vaccine has ever generated the number of deaths produced by these lethal injections. Check it out for yourself.
No, it means that I'm educated, did my research, and understand the nature of mRNA, and am familiar with Corona viruses.
While I didn't study biology with the intent of entering the medical profession, all my close friends from the state university at Stony brook have become successful in their chosen medical fields, so I'll see your doctor and raise you a dentist, and a physician's assistant. These aren't ignorant idiots, but very sharp people who like to read their professional journals and keep up with the state of the art. None of them sees a problem with the vaccines (though at least one wouldn't be thrilled with a mandate) and all of them would rather see vaccinated patients in their practices than unvaccinated ones, given a choice.
I don't place any real value on "statistical correlations " but the statistics simply comparing deaths and recoveries between the vaccinated and unvaccinated show that there is real life saving benefits to getting the vaccine (though long term side effects couldn't possibly be known with a new vaccine.) Do you think the data is manufactured?
I don't know who Joel Hirschhorn is, but yes, I'm convinced that he's a conspiracy theorist because he disagrees with not just the medical authorities, but with the working medical community.
If there's a problem with covid vaccination, it's the mandates, not the vaccine. A widespread acceptance of governmental mandates as appropriate for the general population sets the precedent for other potentially less reasonable mandates, such as reproductive licensing, euthanasia of individuals deemed nonproductive, the loss of parental rights, etc.
Pestilence is predicted by scripture and is only one of the judgments set loose upon the Earth. I see no reason to confuse biblical truth with popular fiction, but it wouldn't be the first time I've seen this in the church at large. Eg: Tim Lahaye's popular fiction.
 

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I'm curious here




(And I'm not disagreeing with the virus being manufactured in case you are wondering)

Since there is a shroud of "question" around them and this current administration, how can you be so sure that this "vaccine" is actually beneficial and not another part of the "plan"?
The vaccines were developed during the Trump administration, starting in December of 2019 when the Chinese released the genome of the virus for public non proprietary use to any and all pharmaceutical companies interested in developing a vaccine. This generous release of the genome was approximately coincident with the outbreak in WuHan so I would think it was motivated by self preservation and self interest (keeping the genome to themselves would've made the outbreak seem like an act of bio warfare. )
 
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There is no such thing as a conspiracy theory.
There is either conspiracy or not.
There is truth or there is lie.
There is no theory that mediates between the two.
Search the TRUTH for yourself.
Observe your friends and neighbors. Are they ok?
Doesn't matter if they got the vax or not, what matters is, are they ok?

They have us so divided because of a technicality.. let's take a poll.
Do you this? Do you that?
Don't you get it? We are just statistics and they have us polling eachother.
STOP IT

Care about the well being of your neighbor before your concern about the poll.

Vaccines have been good and now and then man goofs up. It happens. That's how we learn.
This whatever it is, it's not a vaccine in the original sense.
It's not the virus being injected into you, like a flu shot.
This is a creation of scientists that they are experimenting on, and Covid is it's excuse for existence.

These are not theories...
we need the truth.
What for? Why now?
How did they have something ready in months that usually takes years?
How can they create a vaccine without the original strain of the Covid?

I say,
Think for yourself.
Research yourself.
Trust yourself.
Trust God.

God Bless
Hugs
There's lots of conspiracy theories and most are associated with mental illness. I particularly enjoyed William Cooper's book, Behold a Pale Horse, and recommend it to anyone who enjoys a good conspiracy theory. He managed to combine UFO governmental coverup, with the JFK assassination, the Aids epidemic, the New World Order, and just about every major popular conspiracy theory right up to the publication of the book. In his conclusions at the end of the book he was left questioning the reality of his own senses, his own perception (he claimed to be an eye witness to UFO phenomena while in the NAVY as well as privileged to access communications regarding the JFK assassination because of his communications MOS ( his service job.)
I particularly liked that book because it was an easy read and the author provided a large appendix of his source material, some of which was more reliable than others, for review by his readers.
 
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I got both shots, I’m okay. All my friends got the shots. They’re okay. So I don’t understand all the paranoia and fear.
Paranoia and fear = faithlessness. That's not particularly surprising since even those here who read and study scripture frequently don't believe what it plainly says.

Perfect love casts out fear, but I suppose we're all a long way from that expression of godliness.
6 Then the Lord said, “Hear what the unjust judge said. 7 And shall God not avenge His own elect who cry out day and night to Him, though He bears long with them? 8 I tell you that He will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless, when the Son of Man comes, will He really find faith on the earth?” Luke 18:6-7
 

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There's lots of conspiracy theories and most are associated with mental illness. I particularly enjoyed William Cooper's book, Behold a Pale Horse, and recommend it to anyone who enjoys a good conspiracy theory. He managed to combine UFO governmental coverup, with the JFK assassination, the Aids epidemic, the New World Order, and just about every major popular conspiracy theory right up to the publication of the book. In his conclusions at the end of the book he was left questioning the reality of his own senses, his own perception (he claimed to be an eye witness to UFO phenomena while in the NAVY as well as privileged to access communications regarding the JFK assassination because of his communications MOS ( his service job.)
I particularly liked that book because it was an easy read and the author provided a large appendix of his source material, some of which was more reliable than others, for review by his readers.

I've read that book and watched the full length documentary he did regarding it.
I believe there are UFO's.. made in the good ole US of A.
Jackie shot John under the chin, then threw the gun to the SS guy running behind the car.
Then she married Onassis and became a very rich woman.
Aids was created by Fauci.
We are living in the first stages of the NWO. But I think their plans will be foiled.
TRUST GOD.
Everything we think we know is founded on lies and hypocrisy.
Only God is truth.
Welcome to the Matrix.
Have you had your red pill today?
:)
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Act 5:29 Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.
 

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I've read that book and watched the full length documentary he did regarding it.
I believe there are UFO's.. made in the good ole US of A.
Jackie shot John under the chin, then threw the gun to the SS guy running behind the car.
Then she married Onassis and became a very rich woman.
Aids was created by Fauci.
We are living in the first stages of the NWO. But I think their plans will be foiled.
TRUST GOD.
Everything we think we know is founded on lies and hypocrisy.
Only God is truth.
Welcome to the Matrix.
Have you had your red pill today?
:)
HUGS
Red pill? Don't you know that I'm a touch left of center? My pill is green! Lol
 
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This guy reminds of the dude from Tales of the crypt.


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