Ezekiel Chapters 47-48 Is The Eternal Kingdom, Dont Be Deceived

[Truth7t7]

we do disagree but I do get your point. For me I can’t see how any other fruit Will the tree of Life (Christ)yield, except for the fruit of the Spirit. “Fishermen” I’m thinking Mark 1:17-18 And Jesus said unto them, Come ye after me, and I will make you to become fishers of men. [18] And straightway they forsook their nets, and followed him.

We disagree, the fish, fishermen, and fishing nets are tangible and literal in a future eternal kingdom in a New Heaven and Earth, not to be removed through symbolic allegory

 

[VictoryinJesus]

The scripture below clearly teaches that the fruit on the tree of life is for (Meat/Food) you cant remove this biblical truth through symbolic allegory, we will disagree

You said “the scripture below clearly teaches that the fruit on the tree of life is for (meat/food)… yes that is one teaching mangos. I went to a Bible study one night and they all were discussing what Fruit they thought might be yielded by the tree of Life: oranges, pomegranate, or mango? And how beautiful and sustaining the Fruit will be. Yet; Romans 14:17 For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.

Hebrews 6:4-5 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Spirit, [5] And have tasted the good word of God,(Life?) and the powers of the world to come,

Hebrews 6:4 Lexicon: For in the case of those who have once been enlightened and have tasted (to taste, eat) of the heavenly gift and have been made partakers of the Holy Spirit,


Hebrews 6:5 Lexicon: and have tasted (to taste, eat) the good word of God and the powers of the age to come,

 

[Truth7t7]

You said “the scripture below clearly teaches that the fruit on the tree of life is for (meat/food)… yes that is one teaching mangos. I went to a Bible study one night and they all were discussing what Fruit they thought might be yielded by the tree of Life: oranges, pomegranate, or mango? And how beautiful and sustaining the Fruit will be. Yet; Romans 14:17 For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.

Hebrews 6:4-5 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Spirit, [5] And have tasted the good word of God,(Life?) and the powers of the world to come,

Hebrews 6:4 Lexicon: For in the case of those who have once been enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and have been made partakers of the Holy Spirit,


Hebrews 6:5 Lexicon: and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come,

Was the cross of Calvary also symbolic allegory?

Was the resurrection of Jesus Christ also symbolic allegory?

 

[VictoryinJesus]

We disagree, the fish, fishermen, and fishing nets are tangible and literal in a future eternal kingdom in a New Heaven and Earth, not to be removed through symbolic allegory

curious why it is so offensive and rejected that the tree of Life yields not mangos but the fruit of the Spirit. Why are we so set on fishermen focus to be on fish?

 

[VictoryinJesus]

Was the cross of Calvary also symbolic allegory?

Was the resurrection of Jesus Christ also symbolic allegory?

Why deflect from what “Fruit” Life yields, to an wild accusation? 1 John 3:5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.

 

[Truth7t7]

curious why it is so offensive and rejected that the tree of Life yields not mangos but the fruit of the Spirit. Why are we so set on fishermen focus to be on fish?

The scripture clearly teaches the fruit on the tree of life is for (Meat/Food) not a symbolic allegory as you present

Jesus Christ maintained a glorified body of flesh and bone after the resurrection, that ate tangible food in this literal world, a tangible body that entered the room when the doors were shut, and vanished out of human sight

Your symbolic allegory attempts to remove these facts in scripture, error

 

[Truth7t7]

Why deflect from what “Fruit” Life yields, to an wild accusation? 1 John 3:5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.

No deflection, your symbolic allegory in removing the literal is in error

The future Eternal kingdom will be tangible, with glorified bodies that will eat and drink, just as the tangible body Jesus Christ maintained after the resurrection

Luke 24:36-43KJV
36 And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
37 But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit.
38 And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?
39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
40 And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet.
41 And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?
42 And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.
43 And he took it, and did eat before them.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

The scripture clearly teaches the fruit on the tree of life is for (Meat/Food) not a symbolic allegory as you present

Jesus Christ maintained a glorified body of flesh and bone after the resurrection, that ate tangible food in this literal world, a tangible body that entered the room when the doors were shut, and vanished out of human sight

Your symbolic allegory attempts to remove these facts in scripture, error

maybe, but am I saying something ugly or horrendous by questioning is it possible the Fruit given by the Spirit of God (Life)is good and more needful than mango or oranges or apples?

 

[Truth7t7]

maybe, but am I saying something ugly or horrendous by questioning is it possible the Fruit given by the Spirit of God (Life)is good and more needful than mango or oranges or apples?

The subject is the fruit on the tree of life, and it's not symbolic allegory as you suggest, it's that simple, the horse is dead

 

[VictoryinJesus]

The subject is the fruit on the tree of life, and it's not symbolic allegory as you suggest, it's that simple, the horse is dead

you are certain then?

 

[Truth7t7]

you are certain then?

Just as certain that there will be fish, fishermen, fishing nets, houses, vineyards, animals, in the Eternal New Heaven and Earth

 

[VictoryinJesus]

Just as certain that there will be fish, fishermen, fishing nets, houses, vineyards, animals, in the Eternal New Heaven and Earth

okay but I do question always how the Fruit of the Spirit is said to be not as tangible as oranges, apples, and mango. When it is also said that it is by His righteousness that we live and and move and have our being.
Acts 17:27-32 That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us: [28] For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring. [29] Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device. [30] And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: [31] Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead. [32] And when they heard of the resurrection of the dead, some mocked: and others said, We will hear thee again of this matter.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

The subject is the fruit on the tree of life, and it's not symbolic allegory as you suggest, it's that simple, the horse is dead

Curious how you decide? Is “you will know them by their fruits” also mangos, oranges and apples that are tangible? The pointing to fruit in Matthew 7:14-23, what is the focus? Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. [15] Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. [16] Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? [17] Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. [18] A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. [19] Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. [20] Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. [21] Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. [22] Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? [23] And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

 

[Truth7t7]

Curious how you decide? Is “you will know them by their fruits” also mangos, oranges and apples that are tangible? The pointing to fruit in Matthew 7:14-23, what is the focus? Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. [15] Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. [16] Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? [17] Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. [18] A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. [19] Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. [20] Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. [21] Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. [22] Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? [23] And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

The fruit on the tree of life, it's not symbolic allegory as you suggest, it's that simple, the horse is dead, We Disagree

 

[VictoryinJesus]

The fruit on the tree of life, it's not symbolic allegory as you suggest, it's that simple, the horse is dead, We Disagree

sounds like what you are saying in the horse is dead, is the ear is shut now go away? With all due respect reminds me of a child covering their ears and singing loudly; to drown out what they don’t find appealing…

 

[Truth7t7]

sounds like what you are saying in the horse is dead, is the ear is shut now go away? With all due respect reminds me of a child covering their ears and singing loudly; to drown out what they don’t find appealing…

Calling me a child, as you look into a mirror of your own accusation, big smiles!

We have covered the subject, ran around the bush several times, yes the horse is dead, "We Disagree", it's that simple

 

[VictoryinJesus]

Calling me a child, as you look into a mirror of your own accusation, big smiles!

We have covered the subject, ran around the bush several times, yes the horse is dead, "We Disagree", it's that simple

you are right I didn’t consider it as calling you a child. Or accusing you of being one. I’m sorry. It is just hard for me to understand why it is not even an consideration. End of conversation, no more beating a dead horse.

 

[Truth7t7]

you are right I didn’t consider it as calling you a child. Or accusing you of being one. I’m sorry. It is just hard for me to understand why it is not even an consideration. End of conversation, no more beating a dead horse.

1 Timothy 2:13-14KJV
13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

Genesis 3:1-7KJV
1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:
3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Actually this thread is defeated by the very words of Ezekial himself

1st off. What do we see about the new heavens and the new earth?

rev 21: 21 Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. Also there was no more sea.

Yet what do we read in Ez 37:



ez 37:
13 Thus says the Lord God: “These are the borders by which you shall divide the land as an inheritance among the twelve tribes of Israel. Joseph shall have two portions. 14 You shall inherit it equally with one another; for I raised My hand in an oath to give it to your fathers, and this land shall fall to you as your inheritance.
15 “This shall be the border of the land on the north: from the Great Sea,

18 “On the east side you shall mark out the border from between Hauran and Damascus, and between Gilead and the land of Israel, along the Jordan, and along the eastern side of the sea. This is the east side.

19 “The south side, toward the South, shall be from Tamar to the waters of Meribah by Kadesh, along the brook to the Great Sea. This is the south side, toward the South.

20 “The west side shall be the Great Sea, from the southern boundary until one comes to a point opposite Hamath. This is the west side.

SO much for no more sea

We also see in Ez 37, Women are still bearing children Not only jewish women, But gentile women (strangers)

21 “Thus you shall divide this land among yourselves according to the tribes of Israel. 22 It shall be that you will divide it by lot as an inheritance for yourselves, and for the strangers who dwell among you and who bear children among you. They shall be to you as native-born among the children of Israel; they shall have an inheritance with you among the tribes of Israel. 23 And it shall be that in whatever tribe the stranger dwells, there you shall give him his inheritance,” says the Lord God.

Then we have this said about the new heavens and earth and jerusalem

Again rev 21:

22 But I saw no temple in it, for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its temple.

but what do we find in chapter 48 of Ezekial?

21 “The rest shall belong to the prince, on one side and on the other of the holy district and of the city’s property, next to the twenty-five thousand cubits of the holy district as far as the eastern border, and westward next to the twenty-five thousand as far as the western border, adjacent to the tribal portions; it shall belong to the prince. It shall be the holy district, and the sanctuary of the temple shall be in the center.

Sometimes we just need to take our blinders off and actually read what God wrote

 

[Truth7t7]

Actually this thread is defeated by the very words of Ezekial himself

1st off. What do we see about the new heavens and the new earth?

rev 21: 21 Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. Also there was no more sea.

Yet what do we read in Ez 37:



ez 37:
13 Thus says the Lord God: “These are the borders by which you shall divide the land as an inheritance among the twelve tribes of Israel. Joseph shall have two portions. 14 You shall inherit it equally with one another; for I raised My hand in an oath to give it to your fathers, and this land shall fall to you as your inheritance.
15 “This shall be the border of the land on the north: from the Great Sea,

18 “On the east side you shall mark out the border from between Hauran and Damascus, and between Gilead and the land of Israel, along the Jordan, and along the eastern side of the sea. This is the east side.

19 “The south side, toward the South, shall be from Tamar to the waters of Meribah by Kadesh, along the brook to the Great Sea. This is the south side, toward the South.

20 “The west side shall be the Great Sea, from the southern boundary until one comes to a point opposite Hamath. This is the west side.

SO much for no more sea

We also see in Ez 37, Women are still bearing children Not only jewish women, But gentile women (strangers)

21 “Thus you shall divide this land among yourselves according to the tribes of Israel. 22 It shall be that you will divide it by lot as an inheritance for yourselves, and for the strangers who dwell among you and who bear children among you. They shall be to you as native-born among the children of Israel; they shall have an inheritance with you among the tribes of Israel. 23 And it shall be that in whatever tribe the stranger dwells, there you shall give him his inheritance,” says the Lord God.

Then we have this said about the new heavens and earth and jerusalem

Again rev 21:

22 But I saw no temple in it, for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its temple.

but what do we find in chapter 48 of Ezekial?

21 “The rest shall belong to the prince, on one side and on the other of the holy district and of the city’s property, next to the twenty-five thousand cubits of the holy district as far as the eastern border, and westward next to the twenty-five thousand as far as the western border, adjacent to the tribal portions; it shall belong to the prince. It shall be the holy district, and the sanctuary of the temple shall be in the center.

Sometimes we just need to take our blinders off and actually read what God wrote

Big Smiles, "Sea" represents multitudes of people

There was no more "Sea" represents multitudes of people in the New Heaven and Earth

Revelation 21:1KJV
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

The beast rose out of the "Sea" multitudes of peoples

Revelation 13:1KJV
And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

Waters/Sea represents multitudes of peoples

Revelation 17:15KJV
15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.