Davy
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There is so much self assured confusion in this thread, and it's all based on the false doctrines that a soul is immortal and that Heaven is the Christian's reward. Not only does God not state twice in Eze. 18 that the soul can die, Christ plainly stated in Jhn 3:13 no human being besides Himself will ever go to Heaven. Genesis does not show God putting a soul in Adam; it shows God breathing life into what was a pile of dust that was made in His likeness. God plainly told Adam he was dust and that he would return to being dust when he died, and again there is nothing said about how a soul would come out of Adam when he died.
Christ plainly quoted David's psalms in Matt. 5 where He said ruling this earth is the Christians' reward. Christ is preparing offices and positions of authority for His people and will bring those rewards here, as Zech. 14 and Rev. 22 clearly shows. Nobody should be subscribing to pagan doctrines of the immortal soul or going to heaven if they would just believe what their bibles say and unlearn the false traditions of men.
Moreover...
Not many are able to understand the two dimensions of existence written of in God's Word, which is sad since it is clearly written about.
The soul can die, eventually, in the future "lake of fire" at the GWT Judgment. Thus your false claim that those who disagree with the Jew's 'dead in the ground' theory is defunct. The soul is only made immortal in Christ Jesus, and only on the day of Jesus' coming. Apostle Paul clearly showed this in the 1 Corinthians 15 Chapter.
What you obviously missed, is how Paul covered the idea of a body of 'incorruption' that still has a 'mortal' soul (i.e., "this mortal") can is liable to perish. The distinction is in the Greek. But I'll make it easy for you, since you choose not to read what Paul said there in 1 Corinthians 15:53.
1. "corruptible" = flesh body, perishable, a body ONLY, of dust of the earth, the "image of the earthy".
2. "incorruption" = the "spiritual body"; a body ONLY, of spirit; the "image of the heavenly".
3. "this mortal" = the soul, the person, the id; is made immortal by Christ at His coming; but for the wicked is still in a liable to perish state along with their spiritual body at the "second death" of Rev.20.
4. "immortality" = only for those in Christ Jesus who continue with Him to the new heavens and a new earth.