Gods’ Holy Spirit is just that; a ’Spirit’! NOT a God!

[Foreigner]

And what is the problem with that?

God told one of His Holy Angels to impregnate Mary. Where is the problem?

If man can do it, is it too far of a stretch for God?

-- Just to make sure we understand each other. Mary wasn't impregnanted by God through the Holy Spirit, but rather by an angel.

So an angel - which God says we will stand in judgement over (1 Cor. 6:3) - impregnated Mary and caused her to give birth to God in human form.


.................uh huh.

Not to make too big an issue of it, sonny, but is there a grownup there we can speak with?




Just something to consider...

Almighty God, the Creator of the heavens and the earth may not appreciate someone questioning the lineage of His Son, who he sent and watched be tortured and die for our sins.

Might want to keep that in mind.

 

[Eccl.12:13]

Matthew 28:19 (ESV)
[sup]19 [/sup]Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

"The Father" is not a name. "The Son" is not a name. "The Holy Spirit" is not a name. Do you know the name that ALL must be baptized under?

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[Duckybill]

"The Father" is not a name. "The Son" is not a name. "The Holy Spirit" is not a name.

Was Jesus confused?

Do you know the name that ALL must be baptized under?

Tell us.

 

[Eccl.12:13]

-- Just to make sure we understand each other. Mary wasn't impregnanted by God through the Holy Spirit, but rather by an angel.

So an angel - which God says we will stand in judgement over (1 Cor. 6:3) - impregnated Mary and caused her to give birth to

"....for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost."

"And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God."

Now let's find this "Holy Ghost" in the scriptures......

Acts 28
[25] And when they agreed not among themselves, they departed, after that Paul had spoken one word, Well spake the Holy Ghost by Esaias the prophet unto our fathers,
[26] Saying, Go unto this people, and say, Hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and not perceive:

So Paul tells us above, that the "Holy Ghost" told the phophet Isaiah, "...Go unto this people, and say, Hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and not perceive:"!

Well...let's go to the book of Isaiah to find where the "Holy Ghost" said this.....


Isa.6
[1] In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple.
[2] Above it stood the seraphims: each one had six wings; with twain he covered his face, and with twain he covered his feet, and with twain he did fly.
[3] And one cried unto another, and said, Holy, holy, holy, is the LORD of hosts: the whole earth is full of his glory.

So we have Isaiah having a vision and there were seraphims that spoke to eachother saying, "...holy is the Lord." Now seraphims are a class of angels are they not? And if they are in the presence of the Lord they MUST be "Holy" angels correct? For surly God will not have "evil" angels at His throne saying, "...holy is the Lord."! Let's continue....

[5] Then said I, Woe is me! for I am undone; because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips: for mine eyes have seen the King, the LORD of hosts.
[6] Then flew one of the seraphims unto me, having a live coal in his hand, which he had taken with the tongs from off the altar:
[7] And he laid it upon my mouth, and said, Lo, this hath touched thy lips; and thine iniquity is taken away, and thy sin purged.

So the seraphims, an angel, an "Holy" angel performed an act that removed the "SINS" of Isaiah. Wow! That angel did something that some believe only a GOD can do....he removed the sins of Isaiah. But if this "Holy" angel is working under the authority of God then why can't he do it? Let's continue....

[8] Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for us? Then said I, Here am I; send me.
[9] And he said, Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not.

So....we found the place that Paul speaks of in Acts;

Acts 28
[26] Saying, Go unto this people, and say, Hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and not perceive:

But wait a minute.....Didn't Paul say it was the "HOLY GHOST" that spoke to Isaiah? Did he misread? Of course not! Even in a vision God's words MUST be true. And Paul, knowing Jesus said the following;

"And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape."

Knew that if Isaiah was having even a vision it could not have been the voice of the Lord that spoke. It was the angels that spoke at God's throne. It was the angels that removed Isaiah's sins. And it was the angels, the HOLY ANGELS, that spoke the words to Isaiah.

So we have found angels, "Holy" angels, that Paul referred to as the "Holy Ghost".

Now.....if an angel can remove sins, speak with the authority of God, kill thousands of men, do you really think one cannot do the will of God to impregnate Mary?

Get real. Read God's word!


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[Duckybill]

If Jesus was the son of an angel how could He be the Son of God?

 

[Eccl.12:13]

Tell us.

No Ducky.....I will not! Search God's word for yourself! It's there!

"Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling."

Did you catch what your great Paul advises? "Work out your OWN salvation..."!

Read and see how Paul baptized. Search to find what name he used.



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If Jesus was the son of an angel how could He be the Son of God?

Did you even bother to READ what I posted?

Who and who alone can forgive sins? And yet what does scripture tells us........?

"Then flew one of the seraphims unto me, having a live coal in his hand, which he had taken with the tongs from off the altar: And he laid it upon my mouth, and said, Lo, this hath touched thy lips; and thine iniquity is taken away, and thy sin purged."

That an angel removed the sins of Isaiah. When God gives an angel the authority to do something it is as though God Himself did it.

Here is yet another or MANY examples of this found in God's word....

Exod.23
[20] Behold, I send an Angel before thee, to keep thee in the way, and to bring thee into the place which I have prepared.
[21] Beware of him, and obey his voice, provoke him not; for he will not pardon your transgressions: for my name is in him.
[22] But if thou shalt indeed obey his voice, and do all that I speak; then I will be an enemy unto thine enemies, and an adversary unto thine adversaries.

God's Holy angels simply carried out God's command.

Is it really that hard to understand?

Listen.......this lesson is for those seeking the true word of God. This lesson is for those that may have said to themselves....."This one for all and all for one things just does not make any sense."

It's not for you duckster! don't try to wrap your head around it. If God wants you to see He is the ONLY one that can open your eyes.

Since you are such a fan of my posts and cannot seem to help but reply, have you taken the time to read this great little lesson....?

"Are They really “One” or are they ALL on “One Accord“ ?"

Why don't you give that one a once over and let me know what you think...





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[Duckybill]

No Ducky.....I will not! Search God's word for yourself! It's there!

"Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling."

Wouldn't it be simpler to admit that you don't know?

Did you catch what your great Paul advises? "Work out your OWN salvation..."!

Read and see how Paul baptized. Search to find what name he used.

My great Paul? Isn't he 'your great Paul'? He wrote more Books of the NT than anyone.


I should have said that Paul wrote more Books in the entire Bible than anyone. Yes, even more than Moses.

 

[Eccl.12:13]

Wouldn't it be simpler to admit that you don't know?

My great Paul? Isn't he 'your great Paul'? He wrote more Books of the NT than anyone.

I only say that because people seem to think that Pauls writings have MORE weight than the one that will judge Paul.

Whenever you quote Jesus they always come back with a quote from Paul....as if what Paul said is different than what Jesus taught. Let's read what Paul believed and taught.....

"But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets;"

Did you catch what your great Paul said? He believes ALL things written in the law and the prophets.

Now do you think Paul taught something different than what he believed?


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[Duckybill]

I only say that because people seem to think that Pauls writings have MORE weight than the one that will judge Paul.

1 Corinthians 14:37-38 (NKJV)
[sup]37 [/sup]If anyone thinks himself to be a prophet or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things which I write to you are the commandments of the Lord. [sup]38 [/sup]But if anyone is ignorant, let him be ignorant.

Whenever you quote Jesus they always come back with a quote from Paul....as if what Paul said is different than what Jesus taught. Let's read what Paul believed and taught.....

"But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets;"

Chapter, verse and translation please.

Did you catch what your great Paul said? He believes ALL things written in the law and the prophets.

Now do you think Paul taught something different than what he believed?

Chapter and verse please.

 

[Eccl.12:13]

"But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets."

Chapter and verse please.

WHAT? Are you saying you did not know the GREAT Paul said this? WOW!!! You have some homework to do.


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[Duckybill]

WHAT? Are you saying you did not know the GREAT Paul said this? WOW!!! You have some homework to do.

No I didn't say that. I asked you for chapter, verse and translation. I notice you didn't give it.

 

[Eccl.12:13]

No I didn't say that. I asked you for chapter, verse and translation. I notice you didn't give it.

HOMEWORK!!!!

 

[Duckybill]

HOMEWORK!!!!

Why on earth would someone refuse to give chapter, verse and translation?

 

[Eccl.12:13]

Why on earth would someone refuse to give chapter, verse and translation?

Why would someone NOT want to search God's word to see if the things people are posting is true?

"These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."

If you noticed in ALL of my lessons I provide book, chapted and verse in 99% of the lesson. Are you saying you do not have the curiosity enough to WANT to search God's word for the 1% time I do not provide book, chapter and verse?

Not to mention you have a COMPUTER!

That's just lazy!


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[Foreigner]

Now.....if an angel can remove sins, speak with the authority of God, kill thousands of men, do you really think one cannot do the will of God to impregnate Mary?

Get real. Read God's word!

-- Unfortunately for you, I DO read God's word.

That is why it is obvious you are full of beans.

How you can read His word and claim that the Holy Spirit and and an angel of God are interchangable shows you are the one who needs to "get real."

As I said, Almighty God will likely not enjoy someone questioning the lineage of the Son He sent and watch be tortured and die for our sins.

If Jesus was the son of an angel how could He be the Son of God?

-- Exactly



It also shows a flaw in your assumptions. You feel that it it COULD have been that way (which it was not).....that means it MUST HAVE been that way.


It comes down to two things: You are either truly cluless, or you are intentionally jerking the chains of people on this site.

And no, there is not a third option.

Why would someone NOT want to search God's word to see if the things people are posting is true?

"These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."

If you noticed in ALL of my lessons I provide book, chapted and verse in 99% of the lesson. Are you saying you do not have the curiosity enough to WANT to search God's word for the 1% time I do not provide book, chapter and verse?

Not to mention you have a COMPUTER!

That's just lazy!

TRANSLATION: There is no scripture to support his position.

 

[Eccl.12:13]

How you can read His word and claim that the Holy Spirit and and an angel of God are interchangable shows you are the one who needs to "get real."

Isa.63
[9] In all their affliction he was afflicted, and the angel of his presence saved them: in his love and in his pity he redeemed them; and he bare them, and carried them all the days of old.

So it was an angel, an "HOLY" angel, no doubt that saved them.

And what was this angel called?

[10] But they rebelled, and vexed his holy Spirit: therefore he was turned to be their enemy, and he fought against them.

An holy Spirit!


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[Foreigner]

Isa.63
[9] In all their affliction he was afflicted, and the angel of his presence saved them: in his love and in his pity he redeemed them; and he bare them, and carried them all the days of old.

So it was an angel, an "HOLY" angel, no doubt that saved them.

And what was this angel called?

[10] But they rebelled, and vexed his holy Spirit: therefore he was turned to be their enemy, and he fought against them.

An holy Spirit!


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-- As I said about your claim that an angel impregnated Mary: You feel that if it COULD have been that way (which it couldn't have been)....that is MUST HAVE been that way.

Bet you think that when Jesus was baptized, that was an angel that came down upon him and not the Holy Spirit.

Or that it was angels in Acts 2 that came upon the disciples.

I bet you can talk yourself into just about anything.

 

[Duckybill]

That's just lazy!

I would say it's "lazy" or even deceptive to not give chapter, verse and translation.

If you noticed in ALL of my lessons I provide book, chapted and verse in 99% of the lesson.

Why are you refusing now?

 

[Foreigner]

Isa.63
[9] In all their affliction he was afflicted, and the angel of his presence saved them: in his love and in his pity he redeemed them; and he bare them, and carried them all the days of old.

So it was an angel, an "HOLY" angel, no doubt that saved them.

And what was this angel called?

[10] But they rebelled, and vexed his holy Spirit: therefore he was turned to be their enemy, and he fought against them.

An holy Spirit!

-- You have (again) said nothing to refute the facts I have put forth.
And as I said, Almighty God will likely not enjoy someone questioning the lineage of the Son He sent and watch be tortured and die for our sins.

 

[Duckybill]

-- You have (again) said nothing to refute the facts I have put forth.
And as I said, Almighty God will likely not enjoy someone questioning the lineage of the Son He sent and watch be tortured and die for our sins.

And all this time I thought Jesus was the Son of God. Still do.