Omicron variant

[Stumpmaster]

It's simple, Stump.

It's the Invasion of the Virus Snatchers!

Goes a little something like this:

"Let's take an existing virus that is commonplace yearly for people all over the world, a perennial - if you will, and let's re-label it. Yes, it will still have the same symptoms it's had for decades, but we'll call it something entirely different and claim it is a deadly pandemic.

Then, anybody who gets this run-of-the-mill virus they've likely had many times in their life and easily survived, we'll just kill 'em!!"

"Brrrrrilliant!"

And that's how "recorded/reported" Flu cases disappeared from NZ and Australia and many other places - while the Flu itself hasn't gone anywhere.

How do I know you aren't a mutant designed to interfere with the pandemic?

 

[CadyandZoe]

You’re mixing several things here.
First, if we take a religious perspective, I would say that we as Christians can’t agree on most of the Bible so we have many denominations looking for “the truth”.
But politics is not a religious-based practice which is why we need to reach for common ground. So we need to avoid extremes which can lead to unhealthy outcomes.

Also, if you take a religious based perspective and apply it in politics, that would have vastly different outcomes based on region or culture.
For example, Greece which is almost a religious state, is extremely liberal from your point of view probably. Because they enforce vaccines and they have no gun rights.
But at the same time a religion like Islam has a different version of how they implement the law in Afghanistan for example. They simply eliminate you.
This is why middle ground is important for the peace and civility of a nation.

I also believe middle ground is important. But it is no longer possible to achieve. Why? Because God is now forcing everyone to take a side. Either an individual loves the truth or that individual doesn't love the truth. At least in America, we have had the luxury of believing all kinds of silly things, due to the relative wealth of our citizens. We were comfortable and not serious about seeking God. Today, things are different. We are facing the same challenges that our grandparents faced in the 1930's but without the moral ground to support us and get us through it. Without God we will perish both personally and nationally.

Why do you think I was so hard on Eternally Grateful? It's time to see the bigger picture. The death of a loved one is a very big deal. But for a person who follows Jesus, is death part of the bigger picture? 1 Thessalonians 4:13

 

[Enoch111]

How do I know you aren't a mutant designed to interfere with the pandemic?

Yeah. We need a mutant ninja to go after Fauci et al. for creating a bogus pandemic.

 

[Enoch111]

I also believe middle ground is important. But it is no longer possible to achieve.

The days of "middle grounds" are over. You can either love tyranny or love freedom. You can either side with the demons controlling the narrative or you can expose them for what they are. Unless people really understand that the pandemic was a PLANDEMIC AND A SCAMDEMIC they will never see what is happening.

 

[Naomanos]

The days of "middle grounds" are over. You can either love tyranny or love freedom. You can either side with the demons controlling the narrative or you can expose them for what they are. Unless people really understand that the pandemic was a PLANDEMIC AND A SCAMDEMIC they will never see what is happening.

No, there still is middle ground, it's just the extremists and yes, I consider you and those who think like you or those who think like you but on the complete opposite side of the spectrum try not to allow there to be a middle ground. There is still a middle ground because I do my best to walk it each and everyday.

 

[CadyandZoe]

No, there still is middle ground, it's just the extremists and yes, I consider you and those who think like you or those who think like you but on the complete opposite side of the spectrum try not to allow there to be a middle ground. There is still a middle ground because I do my best to walk it each and everyday.

And how is that working out for ya' ?

 

[Naomanos]

And how is that working out for ya' ?

For the most part pretty well.

Thank you for asking!

 

[Naomanos]

And how is that working out for ya' ?

You know, nothing has changed for me since Covid started other then God opening the door to a better job for my age. Twenty years on an ambulance has taken its toll on my body. Now I'm I'm a job hat is an eight hour a day job, no more 13+ hours and I don't have to lift anymore. Not to mention the pay is better. No more living paycheck to paycheck.

I can still go to Disney World with my girlfriend, and I can still travel to Upstate, NY to see some of my kids. Nothing has changed.

Sometimes I think those that yell the loudest are causing their own problems. I just live my life and live on.

 

[GaryAnderson]

No. I want you to show me where Alex Jones has not posted the truth and simply made up a story.

Did you actually go to this web site and check it out?
https://www.realnotrare.com/

Look, if you want to believe that Alex Jones says “the truth” then keep believing that. You can’t convince me though so we have different paths to take here.

I also believe middle ground is important. But it is no longer possible to achieve. Why? Because God is now forcing everyone to take a side. Either an individual loves the truth or that individual doesn't love the truth. At least in America, we have had the luxury of believing all kinds of silly things, due to the relative wealth of our citizens. We were comfortable and not serious about seeking God. Today, things are different. We are facing the same challenges that our grandparents faced in the 1930's but without the moral ground to support us and get us through it. Without God we will perish both personally and nationally.

Why do you think I was so hard on Eternally Grateful? It's time to see the bigger picture. The death of a loved one is a very big deal. But for a person who follows Jesus, is death part of the bigger picture? 1 Thessalonians 4:13

Middle ground is possible but when you tell someone else that their friends or family “died needlessly” that’s not really middle ground.

 

[Enoch111]

Middle ground is possible but when you tell someone else that their friends or family “died needlessly” that’s not really middle ground.

Each and everyone who died because of either coronavirus or the bogus vaccines died NEEDLESSLY. It was medical murder. Why? Because early treatments with very cheap and very effective remedies were either (a) banned, (b) undermined, or (c) plain sabotaged.

 

[Naomanos]

Each and everyone who died because of either coronavirus or the bogus vaccines died NEEDLESSLY. It was medical murder.

You really cannot make that type of statement. You do not know that everyone died needlessly and I wish people would stop using hyperbole to try and get their point across.

I would also hardly call it murder, although I realize that it's used to try and make your argument more convincing.

 

[CadyandZoe]

Middle ground is possible but when you tell someone else that their friends or family “died needlessly” that’s not really middle ground.

I told you. I'm not seeking middle ground. I wasn't seeking middle ground when I said it. My provocative speech was intended to shock and alarm and hopefully prepare folks for the coming truth of the matter.

Nonetheless, let's talk about it for a minute.

The strategy of seeking middle ground is employed when two people, at odds with one another, attempt to understand the position of their opponent by suspending their own position long enough to hear and consider what their opponent is actually saying. One common technique among those seeking middle ground is for both party to agree on a set of facts or sources of facts on which to make an appeal to reason. Another common technique is for each party to ask leading questions and pursue a line of thinking to its ultimate conclusion.

Do you think anyone in this thread has done this so far?

Posts filled with questions is clear evidence of two people seeking middle ground, because the strategy isn't to prove your case, but to understand your opponent's case. I attempted to seek middle ground with someone in this thread (I think it was this thread) and I was accused of being an interrogator.

People take offence at someone who appears to be asking "too many questions" but that is precisely what seeking middle ground looks like. I often wonder if those who become offended at being questioned are insecure with their position and perhaps detest the thought that they were duped or made a mistake.

This thread and others like it are popular because people like to cheer for their favorite team. Other people come here in an attempt to seek information, hoping that the thread will eventually prove something. For the most part, threads like this are unproductive for several reasons, the bulk of which is centered on "trusted sources" and the interpretation of experience. Both Eternally Grateful and you have voiced caution and incredulity concerning information gathered from sources other than "official" sources, such as social media and the internet. Myself and others have voiced incredulity and caution concerning information coming from official sources.

I didn't always mistrust government sources. But over the years I have found corruption in many of the departments, which purport to inform the public. That is, governmental agencies responsible to inform the public suffer under major conflicts of interest, whereby governmental agencies promote the perspective of donors, rather than an objective, factual, perspective. For instance, when I was in grade school, we were taught the Food Pyramid, which I found out later, purposely favored the grain farmer lobby. In fact, as it turns out, the pyramid is upside down.

I could go on, but the point is this. Unless folks in this thread can agree on a set of trusted sources, then middle ground isn't possible.

 

[Stumpmaster]

Each and everyone who died because of either coronavirus or the bogus vaccines died NEEDLESSLY. It was medical murder. Why? Because early treatments with very cheap and very effective remedies were either (a) banned, (b) undermined, or (c) plain sabotaged.

Scary thought. I'll never trust doctors and the Government again if I prove it is true.

 

[Enoch111]

Scary thought. I'll never trust doctors and the Government again if I prove it is true.

Sen. Ron Johnson: Dr. Fauci, Censorship Helped Sabotage Some COVID Treatments
Sen. Ron Johnson: Dr. Fauci, Censorship Helped Sabotage Some COVID Treatments
Attacks On Ivermectin And HCQ Are Textbook ‘Alinsky’
In every leftist Democrat dominated jurisdiction across America, authorities were not merely disparaging and dismissive of the effects of HCQ, they were openly venomous and hostile, to the point of actively suppressing its use, and threatening legal action against any medical professional who dared prescribe it. On cue, the leftist Fake News crowd immediately jumped on board, parroting the attacks in a coordinated effort to denigrate any mention of HCQ and the stunning results being reported by doctors worldwide. Every effort was made to instill fear and mistrust of the drug, despite it being easily and safely used for seven decades with no acute side effects.
Attacks On Ivermectin And HCQ Are Textbook ‘Alinsky’ | GOPUSA

 

[GEN2REV]

How do I know you aren't a mutant designed to interfere with the pandemic?

I'm a bot programmed to refute any and all opposition to God's Word and Truth as a whole.

 

[GEN2REV]

No, there still is middle ground, it's just the extremists and yes, I consider you and those who think like you or those who think like you but on the complete opposite side of the spectrum try not to allow there to be a middle ground. There is still a middle ground because I do my best to walk it each and everyday.

God doesn't like Luke-warm.

And He never made a spiritual fence to sit upon.

Choose your side or you've already chosen. You're either all-in for God and Truth or you're living for, and by the ways of, the opposition.

 

[GEN2REV]

Sometimes I think those that yell the loudest are causing their own problems. I just live my life and live on.

God expects His people to sound the alarm when there is danger and will punish those who see wrongdoing and keep silent.

" ... if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand."
Ezekial 33:6

All of God's people are designated 'Watchmen.'

 

[GEN2REV]

I would also hardly call it murder, although I realize that it's used to try and make your argument more convincing.

Murder is intentionally causing the death of someone.

All of those who knowingly placed bans on treatments that were known, and have been repeatedly since proven, to cure these ailments;

as well as all of those who wrote the protocols for handling Covid cases in hospitals misusing respirators, etc.;

as well as all of those who engineered these viruses, are ALL not only MURDERERS, but MASS MURDERERS.

No bones about it.

 

[Naomanos]

God doesn't like Luke-warm.

And He never made a spiritual fence to sit upon.

Choose your side or you've already chosen. You're either all-in for God and Truth or you're living for, and by the ways of, the opposition.

I disagree with you. I can be all I with Gid and sit in the middle of things with allowing people to choose whether or not to vaccinate. I do not see the vaccines as evil. I simply don't.

So I am fine sitting in the middle. You also do not get to decide what my relationship ship with God is. I am right with God and I am saved by the blood of Jesus.

 

[Naomanos]

God expects His people to sound the alarm when there is danger and will punish those who see wrongdoing and keep silent.

" ... if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand."
Ezekial 33:6

All of God's people are designated 'Watchmen.'

I stand by my statement, those yelling the loudest are causing their own problems.