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Yup, He is head of The Church. What about Matthew 16:18? Who does he say he will build The Church upon?
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Hi post,
Yup, He is head of The Church. What about Matthew 16:18? Who does he say he will build The Church upon?
Take it up with Merriam-Webster . . .
Saul was directly persecuting Jesus's CHURCH.
Jesus took it as a personal offense.
NOT difficult to understand that if you persecute His Church - you are persecuting HIM (Luke 10:16).
Hi post,
Yup, He is head of The Church. What about Matthew 16:18? Who does he say he will build The Church upon?
What is The Church in Matthew 18:17 and 1 Timothy 3:15?
You are subject to your own authority if you are not subject to an "earthly organization".
What do you do when two of the "all believers" disagree with each other? According to Scripture you take your differences to The Church to settle your disagreement. Who do you go to post to settle your differences? Yourself?
My faith is in God. Unlike yours which is in menAnd this is what you'll never understand - short of the Holy Spirit oipening your eyes.
The fact that YOU reject the truth doesn't make ut "untrue".
It simply illustraes YOUR lack of faith . . .
See,As I stated before - showing you the truth isn't a matter of "pride".
If you don't like being a Protestant - then DON'T be one . . .
Yep they did, they looked to the word. Not to the leaders and to history and tradition.SOME of the Jews in Jesus day did get it right.
They chose Jesus after they studied the Torah and accepted Pauls oral tradition about Jesus. Remember the Bereans and Theselonians? The Bereans got it right; the Thessalonians didn't. They both used the same Scripture (what we now call the OT) and came up with different conclusions. Just like today. We all read the same Scripture (the NT) and come up with different conclusions. Only one can be right. You think you are right. I think The Church is right.
Nope, that's not a problem. Jesus started a church that has authority over it's members. It has organizaton, heiarchy etc. You reject that. I don't AND Christianity hasn't rejected that for 2,000 years. For you see first there was Christ as the teacher of the Truth and the Apostles were his students. And then there were men who were students of the Apostles who were taugt the Truth. And then there were students of those men who were taught the Truth etc etc for 2,000 year.
Your theory says that that teaching authority ended sometime in the last 2,000 years. Sooooo when did that teaching authority end Ferris?
How does the magisterium not see that Apostle John says every believer has the anointing? 1 John 2:20-27It is the magisterium that is guided by the Holy Spirit into the Truth. Not every Priest.
It's only invisible in that it does not exist in an official identifiable body of believers anymore like it did in the time of the Apostles.I completly udnerstand your theory that The Church is invisible and that it is made up of "real believers interspersed throughout the religious organizations of the world".
We can see in Ephesians 4:11-13 that official offices of ministry are given to various individuals in the church. And that the pastors and elders are responsible for the flock - 1 Peter 5:2. And that they have authority to see to it that unrepentant hypocrites are expelled from the congregation - 1 Corinthians 5:5. The problem is these gifted believers among us are not all unified in a single body of leadership at this time in church history because of the corrupting influence of false doctrines and teachers that has suppressed the truth - Romans 1:18. Which Paul prophesied would happen soon after his departure - Acts of the Apostles 20:28-29.Scripture makes it clear that there are church elders who are in charge of our soul and we are to listen to them and they have the authority to decide who is to be excommunicated.
No, I don't reject that. What I reject is the Catholic's claim to be that organization.Jesus started a church that has authority over it's members. It has organizaton, heiarchy etc. You reject that.
No, that is not my theory. I'm saying the Catholic church is not that authority.Your theory says that that teaching authority ended sometime in the last 2,000 years.
Do you want me to do that blindfolded or unblindfolded?
It's only invisible in that it does not exist in an official identifiable body of believers anymore like it did in the time of the Apostles.
Saul wasn't persecuting the Roman church, but Messianic Jews.
No, I don't reject that. What I reject is the Catholic's claim to be that organization.
No, that is not my theory. I'm saying the Catholic church is not that authority.
Now we're both confused, lol.Why are YOU POSTING with your words....when others are content to speak for you, then disagree with what they say for you?
It's a very simple text:you can’t do it period!