Hi Illuminator,
@amigo de christo doesn't see how he is refuting (contradicting) himself. On one hand amigo is agreeing that James deferred (he uses the word reminding) to what Peter said in vs10 but on the other hand he is saying that James made the decision.
What I don't understand how he can say that James was the decision maker (the leader) of all the Apostles at the Council of Jerusalem and that Peter wasn't but then go on to say that the Apostles didn't have a leader that made decisions for all the Apostles.
I guess he just
doesn't want Peter to be the leader because that would then uphold the 2,000 year teaching of The Church that Peter was chosen by Jesus to be the leader of The Church?
I never said James was the decision maker . THEY all were . They all had a voice .
They were seen as equals . They had no pope . Peter was no pope .
James was referring to what peter had said . Remember they ,as in the apostels even rebuked peter
Now peter did set them straight by telling them about HOW GOD had sent to HIM a vision
and how that now , even the jews could go into houses of gentiles.
James , Cephas and John . Who seemed to be pillars . NOW paul makes mention of THREE names there . Not just peter .
And paul also made sure to say , Whatsover they were it matters not to me , GOD is no respector of persons .
And even if Peter was the leader . THE CC sure has NOT FOLLOWED HIS EXAMPLE .
That man never had folks running up to him and kissing HIS rings . Your popes never even followed the example
of peter . WHOM they claim . SO EVEN IF peter was the leader . The popes are nothing like that man .
THEY always decked themselves up in fancy clothes , loved to be called REVERAND And HOLY FATHER
and had folks kissing their rings and bowing before them and My goodness look at all the other things
that are contrary to both the example of the apostles and CHRIST .
Telling folks you can pray people out of hell . I studied the popes . AND it was written by a catholic
WHO even supported your church . The reason i steer clear of the CC
is because of what is became . You all act like churches cannot fall away or become leavened .
BUT THEY SURE CAN . And the CC DID . But every time someone points out simple truth to you
or eliminator , or bread of life , or even thee faith , You all make excuse and twist the simple
truth to jusitfy what you should be repenting from .
SO what is the point to keep brining bible doctrine to you or them , when all you do is never listen .
I am so sad for you all . I TRULY desire only good for you all . I Truly desire life and good for you all .
But you nor they will listen . Its truly depressing and very sad for my soul
to watch this . I want to help people , not watch them destroy themselves .
WHY wont you just return to the scriptures and at least study them again FOR YOU .
Read them over and over again and watch what would happen .