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I have always had 'God dreams' and I ask Him to give me the meaning and He does but I have never understood anybody else's dream. I would think it is something that can't be taught as it is the province of the Holy Spirit and so something you can't really teach. I'm only interested in the interpretation given to me by God.
This is the problem within the new age charastemetic movement . I have heard of schools where they TEACH folks how to interpret dreams
or how to heal , or etc etc . YE cannot teach what GOD ALONE does give .
GOD giveth the gifts unto members in the body . But to try and learn HOW to , IS BAD NEWS .
I have even seen folks that tell or try and teach you HOW to speak with tongues .
MY dear sister , EITHER GOD GIVETH or HE DONT . Each one will have his or her own gift from GOD
and its to be used for the edifying of the body . Man cannot teach one how to interpret
GOD alone either gives one the gift , or at times HE simply gives us the interpreation of our own dreams .
ONE THING I KNOW . IF GOD GIVETH A DREAM , TRUST IN HIM , FOR HE ALONE will interpret what HE has given unto men .
Its true we can take our dreams to another brother or sister , but beware carnal technigues .
WHEN folks try and teach okay this number or that number represents this or that
OR etc . No . Daniel did not have to STUDY TO LEARN HOW to interpret . HE SIMPLY PRAYED TO GOD FOR INTEPREATION .
AND GOD gave it . Let us flee the tabernacles of many men gone wrong and come back to simply CHILDLIKE TRUST and FAITH IN GOD .
 

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Nobody ever asked me to. If you have a gift for interpreting dreams it's something that others will recognise in you. You don't need to go around announcing it to the world. We don'r choose our gifts.
Jospeh and daniel were both known for being able to interpret dreams . So that alone aint the problem .
The problem is when they try and apply logic and carnal reasonings to interpret the dream . FLEE THOSE and FAST .
Joseph simply prayed to GOD for the interpreation . SO DID daniel . THEY DIDNT SIT AND LEARN IT IN SOME SCHOOL .
FLEE THOSE who did so . Flee them fast .
 

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I have always had 'God dreams' and I ask Him to give me the meaning and He does but I have never understood anybody else's dream. I would think it is something that can't be taught as it is the province of the Holy Spirit and so something you can't really teach. I'm only interested in the interpretation given to me by God.
That's how I am.

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i still think that the only true way to interpret a dream - if indeed it is a 'God dream - is to ask the Holy Spirit. I'm not one for formulas for this and formulas for that.
I agree. People come up with formulas. I believe that if God gives the dream, He also gives the understanding, both by His Spirit, not through decoding the elements of the dream.

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Nobody ever asked me to. If you have a gift for interpreting dreams it's something that others will recognise in you. You don't need to go around announcing it to the world. We don'r choose our gifts.

Who said anything about announcing it to the world? That's entirely irrelevant to the discussion, or at least I thought it was.
 

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And if receiving help interpreting dreams is a different matter, what is the reason?
Dreams are not Scripture. It's apples and oranges.

Dreaming a dream, and interpreting a dream, are subjective experiences. That is unless specifically the dream, and it's interpretation, are revelation from God. And if they are, why should we not think they will come as such come, as a revelation from God. Otherwise, I don't seem much difference between "dream interpretation" and divination. Not meaning to offend, just to say how it seems to me.

Prophets spoke of the future, and interpreted dreams, but is there a method for the prophesying? Or only the dream in interpretation?

Did Daniel tell Nebuchadnezzar the meaning of his dream because we knew the symbols, and how dreams works? Or because God, the revealer of secrets, revealed it to him?

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God giveth the intepretation . I Seen way too many men and women trying to make logic out of a dream
and fail miserably . And yet simply dont trust in HE who even gave the dream .
Call upon the LORD and also one can tell their dream to another believer , perhaps GOD will give the other the interpreation .
But it aint about the mind of man trying with carnal logic and reasoning to intrepret a dream .
ITS UP to GOD who gave the dream , whether HE will give interpreation of said dream .
Let us return to childlike faith in GOD . Too many in our churches have taught us man made ways of doing many things .
But i say REST in the LORD and if one does have a dream and desires the interpretation let him pray to GOD
and also take it to other brethren and let them pray and see IF GOD will not simply give the interpreation .
TRUST THOU , REST THOU , HOPE THOU and BELEIVE THOU as a child IN GOD and beware of the devices of men
who try and try to interpret a dream by the ways of men .


I agree with every word of this, Amigo. :) The point I am making, however, is that the mind cannot be relegated out of the equation, any more with dream interpretation than with scripture interpretation. The Spirit reveals truths to us, and then the Lord then expects us to use our minds to put together everything He is teaching us. Scriptures are not a bunch of islands unto themselves; they confirm one another, and build upon each other from one verse to the next, and one passage to the next. So likewise with the symbolism presented in dreams, and the in multiple dreams that are sometimes used by the Lord to build upon one another a larger message He is trying to communicate. They tell a collective story, with all things relating to one another in context.

Tell me you understand this. I seem to be having trouble communicating it.
 

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I agree with every word of this, Amigo. :) The point I am making, however, is that the mind cannot be relegated out of the equation, any more with dream interpretation than with scripture interpretation. The Spirit reveals truths to us, and then the Lord then expects us to use our minds to put together everything He is teaching us. Scriptures are not a bunch of islands unto themselves; they confirm one another, and build upon each other from one verse to the next, and one passage to the next. So likewise with the symbolism presented in dreams, and the in multiple dreams that are sometimes used by the Lord to build upon one another a larger message He is trying to communicate. They tell a collective story, with all things relating to one another in context.

Tell me you understand this. I seem to be having trouble communicating it.
Just dont go to any todd white schools or any school where they try and TEACH one how to heal , or how to interpret a dream
or etc . Just remember GOD gives the interpreation as HE does any gift . Its simply either given BY GOD
or its sinking sand from men .
 
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I agree with every word of this, Amigo. :) The point I am making, however, is that the mind cannot be relegated out of the equation, any more with dream interpretation than with scripture interpretation. The Spirit reveals truths to us, and then the Lord then expects us to use our minds to put together everything He is teaching us. Scriptures are not a bunch of islands unto themselves; they confirm one another, and build upon each other from one verse to the next, and one passage to the next. So likewise with the symbolism presented in dreams, and the in multiple dreams that are sometimes used by the Lord to build upon one another a larger message He is trying to communicate. They tell a collective story, with all things relating to one another in context.

Tell me you understand this. I seem to be having trouble communicating it.
Let us just keep it simply my friend . This way things dont get misunderstood . cause your right
you are not coming across clear my friend .
 

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Dreams are not Scripture. It's apples and oranges.

Dreaming a dream, and interpreting a dream, are subjective experiences. That is unless specifically the dream, and it's interpretation, are revelation from God. And if they are, why should we not think they will come as such come, as a revelation from God. Otherwise, I don't seem much difference between "dream interpretation" and divination. Not meaning to offend, just to say how it seems to me.

Prophets spoke of the future, and interpreted dreams, but is there a method for the prophesying? Or only the dream in interpretation?

Did Daniel tell Nebuchadnezzar the meaning of his dream because we knew the symbols, and how dreams works? Or because God, the revealer of secrets, revealed it to him?

Much love!
Exactly my friend . but rest assured the soothsayers and magicians of pharoah did those kinds of things .
That is how to keep it simple . Just remember the examples from the scriptures .
DID daniel or joseph ever once learn formulas , OR DID THEY SIMPLY PRAY TO GOD . EXACTLY . ITS THE LATTER .
 
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That is unless specifically the dream, and it's interpretation, are revelation from God.

We are approaching the subject with this as a given, Mark, and thanks for contributing.
And if they are, why should we not think they will come as such come, as a revelation from God.

Now what do you mean by this sentence? Again this would seem to be a given. If the dream is specifically a revelation from God and we are assuming such then asking why we should not regard it as such... seems to be going in circles. What are you saying here?
Did Daniel tell Nebuchadnezzar the meaning of his dream because we knew the symbols, and how dreams works? Or because God, the revealer of secrets, revealed it to him?

I keep getting the strangest questions in this thread. This is exactly what I was arguing in post #8. Let me post it again:
Another principle - one that may seem contradictory to the above but is not - is that symbols do NOT always represent the same things in dreams. This is a mistake the novice will make, but all symbolism needs to be interpreted IN THE CONTEXT of the rest of the dream. For instance, what does a lion represent in Biblical imagery? At first glance, it would seem to represent Christ Jesus, who is described as the Lion of the Tribe of Judah. But in another place, Satan is described as lion roaming about seeking whom he may devour. To interpret lion symbolism as always referring to Christ or always referring to Satan could lead to tremendous mistakes in interpretation, and this is also something you learn by experience, not just because it is common sense. I have seen the meaning of symbolism change depending on context several times before, so it always pays to be careful about interpreting what specific symbolism means.

This discussion reminds me very much of arguments I used to have when I was on Hispanic worship teams. I believed in excellence, and in playing songs well (Hispanics are often not as well taught musically as people in this country are from childhood, so there can be a lot of wrong chords played sometimes, and it throws off the worship. So I would try to correct it). Anyway, I would get all kinds of whining and carrying on about how I was "in the flesh" for wanting songs to be played correctly, and much of my replies here seem to be giving me the same vibe. Just like I would repeat over and over and over again to them, I am FOR seeking out the Holy Spirit and depending upon Him for interpretation. But along with that, I think it is a gift that should be exercised skillfully, just as scripture teaches that those who play instruments during worship unto the Living God should do so skillfully (Psalm 33:3). I am again getting raked over the coals here because I believe and teach that we should do things WELL.

I wonder if the Psalmist caught Hell for teaching Psalm 33, Lol.
 

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Let us just keep it simply my friend . This way things dont get misunderstood . cause your right
you are not coming across clear my friend .

I am, but I am being misconstrued.

Badly. And judged as well, as per Post #19, which sorta comes out of left field on me.
 

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I am, but I am being misconstrued.

Badly. And judged as well, as per Post #19, which sorta comes out of left field on me.
I aint judging you at all . Just warning you and everyone else , steer clear of those todd white ministries
and any other ministry that has to teach one a gift . cause as YOU KNOW , either GOD gives the gift
or he dont . We cannot teach one how to heal . Not all have the gift of healing anyway ,
just as not all have the gift of prophecy and etc . GOD simply giveth to each one as HE sees fit .
As i am sure you already know that . Just saying it for the sake of others who might not .
My advice , in case you dont know this , let us stay far from the nar preachers too . They are deadly dangerous .
As dangerous as the men of the CC , as dangerous as the emergent church .
Too many folks are , as you KNOW , getting caught up in emotions and feelings and mens ways .
I say let us learn our bibles . as i am sure you agree . Just reminding us all .
 

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Well, I think she disappeared on me, so let me ask you then.

I agree with your opening statement, but now, the question is this: Should a Christian also seek any outside help in interpreting dreams or visions if they are having trouble or have questions? My question in response is, should a Christian seek any outside help in understanding scripture? And if receiving help interpreting dreams is a different matter, what is the reason?

Curious what your response is, and good morning, btw :) (well, good afternoon now).
I get what you're saying. Yet at the same time, I believe that if the person receiving the dream is a believer, they will get the interpretation from God. And if they don't have the interpretation right away, they should ask Him for understanding. Sharing with other believers is sometimes good, but not to mass broadcast it because then you get so many varied opinions that it can cloud and blur the true interpretation.

I strongly feel that one should only share their dreams at God's leading, and sharing publicly only if they have the interpretation. Otherwise, everyone can jump in with their opinions and it's a mess. I shared a couple of dreams before with some people and boy, did they butcher and miss the mark! I already knew the interpretation... I was at that time just looking for confirmation.

Just recently, I have had a couple of dreams and a vision come back to my memory and I may post them. (I was sensing this before this thread was posted.) But I need to let them be what they are. The reader will know what the dream is when they read it. God will quicken it to whom He will. And I believe they are very clear and plain in their message.
 

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This is the problem within the new age charastemetic movement . I have heard of schools where they TEACH folks how to interpret dreams
or how to heal , or etc etc .

I have problems with virtually the entire charismatic movement these days. It's nearly all empty talk, I'm afraid to say.
I agree. People come up with formulas.

Am I teaching formulas, Mark? Answer Post #11 for me.
 

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I aint judging you at all . Just warning you and everyone else , steer clear of those todd white ministries
and any other ministry that has to teach one a gift . cause as YOU KNOW , either GOD gives the gift
or he dont . We cannot teach one how to heal . Not all have the gift of healing anyway ,
just as not all have the gift of prophecy and etc . GOD simply giveth to each one as HE sees fit .
As i am sure you already know that . Just saying it for the sake of others who might not .
My advice , in case you dont know this , let us stay far from the nar preachers too . They are deadly dangerous .
As dangerous as the men of the CC , as dangerous as the emergent church .
Too many folks are , as you KNOW , getting caught up in emotions and feelings and mens ways .
I say let us learn our bibles . as i am sure you agree . Just reminding us all .

This post I am in complete agreement with. I've been saying the same thing for years.

Let me try again for the sake of anyone reading: Dream interpretation is NOT about following formulas. In fact, there are many who have provided "Christian dream dictionaries," which I have warned against using dozens of times over the years, and have never used or consulted in my life. As I have stated very clearly for the last four years now, the meaning of symbolism changes from dream to dream depending on context, and how it is used, so it is only through the Holy Spirit that one can come to the proper interpretation. But there is THINKING involved, for heaven's sakes. You cannot interpret scripture without THINKING and putting things together properly. The Lord wants us to use our minds because reason confirms whether things are true or they are false. We do not serve a God who wants us to be a bunch of brainless automatons that can't put 2 and 2 together to see how teachings connect. He wants us USING OUR INTELLECT because it will confirm to us truth from falsehood, and reason from a lack thereof.
 

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I get what you're saying. Yet at the same time, I believe that if the person receiving the dream is a believer, they will get the interpretation from God. And if they don't have the interpretation right away, they should ask Him for understanding. Sharing with other believers is sometimes good, but not to mass broadcast it because then you get so many varied opinions that it can cloud and blur the true interpretation.

Yes. I would agree with this as well.
I strongly feel that one should only share their dreams at God's leading, and sharing publicly only if they have the interpretation.

Your previous point notwithstanding, this is where we would part company. I have seen numerous people post dreams publicly that I believe without question were meant for the entire body of Christ. Had they not, those dreams would not have seen the light of day. Certainly there can be a lot of confusion created if you have multiple people interpreting it in different directions, but then the same can be said of scripture, and as Paul taught, "There of necessity must be factions among you, that those who are approved of God may be made manifest." In other words, good interpreters (of both the word and dreams for that matter) - authoritative interpreters - will be made manifest to all by their ability to explain things in full, and make sense of the entire picture and not just one sentence or two, or a few symbols here or there without treating the whole thing.
I shared a couple of dreams before with some people and boy, did they butcher and miss the mark! I already knew the interpretation... I was at that time just looking for confirmation.

Lol. In defense, if they were interpreting a dream that was personal to you, then they were at a distinct disadvantage from not knowing your life.

You see, this is what I am talking about when I refer to needing to use the mind. When a believer has a dream about their own personal life, do you know why it is easier for them to interpret it? Because they know their own lives, in great detail. They know their actions, both private and public; they know their own hearts; they know their own history; they know their own relationships and secrets, and failings, and inner desires, and weaknesses and callings and hopes and fears and dreams. They have all this INFORMATION at their finger tips. The outside interpreter does not, and needs to gather it if they would come anywhere close to interpreting a dream accurately. Now if they have a gift of discernment that often comes with interpretation, they tend to pick up on things quickly which the Holy Spirit keys them off on, and I have had this happen to me many times. And btw, I will talk about my own experiences here whether anyone accuses me of "announcing it to the world" or not. One of the hallmarks of the end-time church is that they will move in visions and dreams, and at the expense of being vilified for talking about my own experiences I am going to share what I know on the subject. But what many Christians do not have is a wealthy knowledge about either scripture or Biblical symbolism, and I have seen this many times as well. Along with not having much discernment, they don't understand how symbolism is often used in things like the parables or prophetic books. So those are places where most of the help is needed. You draw them out into helping them figure out parts that they don't get. I've seen it happen with too many people not to believe there is a usefulness to helping people interpret their dreams.

But yes. Just depending on anyone and everyone without thinking things out for themselves is a recipe for disaster.
 

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Just recently, I have had a couple of dreams and a vision come back to my memory and I may post them. (I was sensing this before this thread was posted.)

Please don't, Lol. I was thinking in this context that I don't even believe I will be helping the OP with his dream if he comes back. Somehow I have been made into a pariah on this thread, which does not make the most conducive environment for interpreting a dream.

But at least it's been a chance to discuss the subject somewhat.

I have a fence to build, so I believe I will attend to that for awhile instead, Lol.
 

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Now what do you mean by this sentence? Again this would seem to be a given. If the dream is specifically a revelation from God and we are assuming such then asking why we should not regard it as such... seems to be going in circles. What are you saying here?
Why would you need to ask someone what is happening in their life before you would tell them the meaning of their dream?

Much love!