When and why will God end our world?

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Truman

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But then again, it is biblical that many will die.
"A third of mankind was killed by the three plagues of fire, smoke and sulfur that came out of their mouths." - Revelation 9:18
 

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I think that the time to do what is best for Ukraine has passed. I no longer view the world like I used to. I've backed up far enough from the trees to see that we are in the midst of a fascist globalist takeover with the goal of a one-world government. Which will include the mark of the beast.

Nuclear war is my concern. Hydrogen bombs know no wrongs.

Well, you are correct that a "one world government" is... the plan. But our Heavenly Father and His Son warned us about it in His Book of Revelation for the end. So it shouldn't be any huge surprise.

As for all-out nuclear war... not written in God's Word. There is no need to be concerned about nuclear war. The powers that be will only use that as a scare tactic, because their plan is to preserve the earth, not destroy it. They are preparing the world for 'their' king, the "dragon" of Revelation. Their plan is to put him on a throne in Jerusalem and have all the world worship him in place of God. Their god is Lucifer himself.

And ya know, Lord Jesus warned us about that false one coming too.

A fire is coming though upon this whole earth though, and it will end this present world. But we have no need to be concerned about it, because it will be God's consuming fire that will burn man's works off this earth on the "day of the Lord" (2 Peter 3:10-13). It will usher all... in the future world to come, a spirit body world age on earth. Man's little nuclear weapons cannot compare with God's consuming fire. Man will never have enough nuclear weapons to produce God's consuming fire.
 

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But then again, it is biblical that many will die.
"A third of mankind was killed by the three plagues of fire, smoke and sulfur that came out of their mouths." - Revelation 9:18

It takes a lot of Bible study in God's Old Testament prophets to properly understand many of the symbols in Christ's Book of Revelation. That Revelation 9 Chapter is NOT about literal flesh death. It is about 'spiritual' death to one's soul through deception by the locusts and by Satan. You should have noticed that the locusts are not allowed to hurt any green thing, nor kill anyone that does not have God's seal in their forehead. The one-third you posted about are actually about those who are 'deceived' by the locusts and the beast. The locusts army actually represents Satan's servants on earth and his priests like wolves in sheep's clothing. God first mentioned their coming for the end in the Book of Joel.
 

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I am against contributing to war in Ukraine. Even though George Soros says we must do the opposite.
I think those who promote military action in Ukraine are insane in the membrane.
 

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No, I don't deny that at all. You're absolutely right. My position cannot stand if the way you're interpreting that stands. But I do have a way around that. If you see the dissolution of the elements as a complete destruction of all that is alien to God's Kingdom, then once again, we have the old earth remodeled, or restored, to its original pristine condition, absent any Fall or Sin.

In the OT, God rained down judgments upon nations and armies, and destroyed them by fire, as well, which in effect reduced them, as well, to their core elements. That is what fire does, destroying the product, reducing it to carbon, or gas. In dissolving an army or a nation in this way, the entire planet was never dissolved as well--only the impurities, including the works of sinful men.

So it's really in how you read it. You would also have to explain, from your pov, how the Scriptures claim the "earth is forever?"

In case you didn't know, the Scriptures treat the "earth" not as a planet so much as a region of land. To speak of "all the earth" is the equivalent of the entire planet. But quite often, "all the earth," in context, refers to the entirety of a region.

When destruction, therefore, rained down upon the earth, it rained down upon an entire region, destroying an enemy or a nation. It did not speak of the entire planet.
I Strongly Disagree As Previously Explained
 

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I am against contributing to war in Ukraine. Even though George Soros says we must do the opposite.
I think those who promote military action in Ukraine are insane in the membrane.
I agree 100%, the western world is the cause of this war, and their keeping it going, Zelenskyy is a western world puppet

To think of the $Billions$ being sent, personal bank accounts are overflowing in the big steal from taxpayers, and the US congress is approving this criminal act of fraud
 
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I didn't have to quote from Genesis 6, SINCE I QUOTED THE GENESIS 6 CHAPTER!

When are you folks going to wake up and quit playing dollies?

Genesis 6 does not confirm your view if it is about bloodline purity then how come Noah was the only just person in the world? Even Noah’s family wasn’t

If God didn’t judge the world with the flood the faithful line would of ended with Noah. The point of the three chapters is that the faithful conformed with the world and came down to just one man.

How about my point from Corinthians?
 

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I think that the time to do what is best for Ukraine has passed. I no longer view the world like I used to. I've backed up far enough from the trees to see that we are in the midst of a fascist globalist takeover with the goal of a one-world government. Which will include the mark of the beast.

Nuclear war is my concern. Hydrogen bombs know no wrongs.

I don't fear nuclear nations simply because I don't think they can act apart from God letting them act. A nuclear war initiated prematurely could mess up God's plan in these last days. So it won't happen until God lets it happen. I don't have any fear of Putin. If he was allowed, by God, to drop a nuclear bomb on Ukraine, he would be instantly annihilated by a NATO retaliation. If he tried to take on NATO, Russia would instantly be destroyed by all of NATO.

That being said, I think it's wise to keep things from escalating. I don't think the time to help Ukraine has passed. Ukraine seems to be able to hold off Russia, though I think it depends on how much help Western countries help them. Weakening Russia is the US policy, I think, and I do think it's working.

It's also our policy to demote Putin in Russia, and I think that's working too. I'm not praying for him if he has cancer surgery. He's killed many thousands of innocent people.

Now this is pure speculation on my part. I don't think the entire world will ever be united under a single government. That would be a renewal of the Tower of Babel, and God won't let it happen, I think.

That being said, the Scriptures say Antichrist will rule over Europe, and will have worshipers throughout the world. So he will be a polarizing figure universally.

In the end, I think Asian armies will oppose his European base, and Christ will defeat him at Armageddon.

Until that happens I actually believe Russia may become part of European government. To do that, Russia will have to stop being antagonistic towards Western Europe, obviously. Guys like Putin will have to disappear. What need would there be for NATO if the Russian Federation is no longer a threat to the rest of Europe?
 

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When and why will God end our world?
choose day at midnight cuz it's very dark! o_O
 

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Why would God end our world? Because we deserve it? Obviously He doesn't want to do that.
It's like He said to mankind, "According to my holy law, y'all deserve death. I tell you what I'm gonna do." Looking to His right, He says, "Jesus!" Then He pulls out a gun and shoots His beloved Son in the head! If that's not crazy enough, He did it to save us! We should've been the ones getting shot in the head! Either God's insane or He loves us desperately! I know it's the latter!
 

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Why would God end our world? Because we deserve it? Obviously He doesn't want to do that.
It's like He said to mankind, "According to my holy law, y'all deserve death. I tell you what I'm gonna do." Looking to His right, He says, "Jesus!" Then He pulls out a gun and shoots His beloved Son in the head! If that's not crazy enough, He did it to save us! We should've been the ones getting shot in the head! Either God's insane or He loves us desperately! I know it's the latter!

Yes but we have always deserved it the point is when and why will God end our world?

Because just like the last time God almost did it was because the faithful conformed
 

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Yes but we have always deserved it the point is when and why will God end our world?

Because just like the last time God almost did it was because the faithful conformed
There are many interpretations of end-time scripture. I've decided to put tomorrow into the Lord's hands and leave more able people like you to debate things. Shalom.
 

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There are many interpretations of end-time scripture. I've decided to put tomorrow into the Lord's hands and leave more able people like you to debate things. Shalom.

Please don't get my purpose for this post wrong my purpose is to encourage the church to keep faithful and encouragement for the church to not to conform with the world. That's what I believe the purpose of the story of the flood was in Genesis.
 
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Please don't get my purpose for this post wrong my purpose is to encourage the church to keep faithful and encouragement for the church to not to conform with the world. That's what I believe the purpose of the story of the flood was in Genesis.
I'm not being sarcastic, Marty. I have a mild brain injury that can make it difficult for me to debate things. :)
 
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Genesis 6 does not confirm your view if it is about bloodline purity then how come Noah was the only just person in the world? Even Noah’s family wasn’t

If God didn’t judge the world with the flood the faithful line would of ended with Noah. The point of the three chapters is that the faithful conformed with the world and came down to just one man.

How about my point from Corinthians?

Genesis 6 CONFIRMS that angels ("sons of God") saw the FLESH daughters of Adam, and took wives of them, and produced offspring. Their offspring as written there were the giants, a hybrid race which GOD DID NOT CREATE.

The "sons of God" title in The Old Testament ONLY points to the angels, and that title is used to describe the angels that appeared at God's Throne in Heaven with Satan per the Book of Job!

And Genesis 6:9 about Noah being "perfect" in his generations has a Hebrew word about bloodline purity. That further proves the Genesis 6 subject of that mating of Genesis 6:2 & 4.

But of course false prophets disagree with all that Biblical evidence.
 

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Those who do not understand that the Genesis 6 mating of angels with flesh woman actually happened, likely do not understand why the Seed of the Woman that Jesus would be born of began being attacked by Satan all the way back in God's Garden of Eden with the devil tempting Eve. The devil's attacks continued with trying to separate Abraham and Sarah, and even down to king Herod's time when he tried to kill baby Jesus by having all firstborn males executed.

The fallen angels taking wives was especially an attack upon the man Adam's daughters, for the Genesis 6:2 verse with "daughters of men", has the Hebrew "men" with the Hebrew article and particle in the Hebrew manuscripts, which points specifically to the man Adam which God formed in His Garden, and not just about men in general.