What Is A Church Meeting Supposed to Be For?
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And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. 1 Corint 11:24
Veteran, are you able to change your options?
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Why, should I have added taking Communion with Christ Jesus? I thought about that afterwards, but we don't have to be in a Church building to take Holy Communion with Christ.
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Sorry I interpreted you heading to mean a memorial service.
Yes there are many reasons why one would go to a church building.
1. Bible Study Evenings
2. Preaching efforts
3. Prayer Meetings
4. Social Functions
5. Youth Gatherings
And many more...
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Sorry I interpreted you heading to mean a memorial service.
Yes there are many reasons why one would go to a church building.
1. Bible Study Evenings
2. Preaching efforts
3. Prayer Meetings
4. Social Functions
5. Youth Gatherings
And many more...
Insight
Prentis
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I was going to say the same thing Prentis. I feel more edified reading some of the teachings on this site though.
tomwebster
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It depends on what type of "church meeting" is being talked about. Sometimes the church board will meet to discuss administrative issues, sometimes the trusties will meet to discuss the property and building issues, sometimes the church staff will meet to discuss and plan up-coming meetings. A Sunday morning worship service might be different from a Sunday evening service or a mid-week Bible study. The audience attending some services will potentially be different as well and a service planner will want to have that in mind.
Prentis
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I think we must do all things in love with the purpose of building up the body.
The very fact we've turned our Christianity into an institution and an organization has cost us it's simple ways. Christianity is not about organization, but about love and freedom in the Spirit.
Our only job is to be available to the Lord for HIM to build his church through us.
We've been doing far too much building by the strength of the arm of the flesh, sadly.
But we can come out of that!
... Into simplicity and freedom in the Spirit, love in all things, and surrender to God, that HE might build HIS church!
The very fact we've turned our Christianity into an institution and an organization has cost us it's simple ways. Christianity is not about organization, but about love and freedom in the Spirit.
Our only job is to be available to the Lord for HIM to build his church through us.
We've been doing far too much building by the strength of the arm of the flesh, sadly.
But we can come out of that!
... Into simplicity and freedom in the Spirit, love in all things, and surrender to God, that HE might build HIS church!
First and foremost, The House of God is for worshipping Him and learning His Word with understanding. A lot of things done in some Churches get away from that. It was the priests duty to stand up and read the meaning of The Word of God to the congregation. The people then didn't have the language and idiom barriers that we have when they heard. So it's a duty of a pastor who is studied to impart the sense and meaning of God's Word to us in Church. Those two things are the main purposes for our gathering together at a Church.
"So it's a duty of
I don't advocate going back any more than God does. But because the church is so out of order, I must say that the only time a Pastor taught in the early Church was when the Apostle, Prophet and Teacher were out of town. I Cor.12:28 And God has "set" these in the Church: first Apostles, second prophets, third Teachers. That Godly order has never changed, except when men have ignored it and created their own orders, from service order to pastors being the "set" man. Interesting that He gives the order after teaching the spiritual gifts. We don't see manifestations any where near Biblical Proportions in the westernized church world, due in large part to a dearth of Godly order.This Board has an order. The spiritual Army of God has order, just as the natural U.S. army does. No order, no peace, no peace, chaos. We should embrace the order of this board and stop the immature sniping and backbiting. There is nothing in trying to make yourself heard and right. Everyone is doing what they can with what they have. We should be nourishing each other, not attacking one another. No person, denomination, not the body of Christ throughout time and eternity has all the Truth.
The chief aim of a church - be it the body or a group of believers meeting - is to glorify God.
How that is done can come in a variety of forms - fellowship, food, preaching, teaching, etc.
How that is done can come in a variety of forms - fellowship, food, preaching, teaching, etc.
Prentis
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[sup]1 Corinthians 14:26[/sup] How is it then, brethren? Whenever you come together, each of you has a psalm, has a teaching, has a tongue, has a revelation, has an interpretation. Let all things be done for edification.
Modern churchianity is not quite like the radical life that the first disciples preached, is it.
Modern churchianity is not quite like the radical life that the first disciples preached, is it.
It's the duty of those whom our LORD calls in that office by The Holy Spirit. Not all believers are called for that duty.
Apostle Paul was called to fill the offices of a pastor (teacher) and evangelist (preach The Gospel), as he was overseer of the Churches. But today most evangelists and ministers are also labeled as pastors, confusing the different offices. Each Church should really have all three.
Hebrews 10:24 And let us consider one another to incite to love and fine works, 25 not forsaking the gathering of ourselves together, as some have the custom, but encouraging one another, and all the more so as YOU behold the day drawing near
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What is the context of this verse?
1Co 14:26 How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying.
Do you really think Paul was giving the church an "order of service," ie. bulletin, with this verse? or was he telling the church something else? (see 1 Cor 12 – 14:40)
Prentis
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I think Paul was telling us we should operate in the Spirit.
[sup]1[/sup] Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I do not want you to be ignorant: (1 Cor. 12)
Is the church today operating in spiritual gifts, and is it led of the Holy Spirit? Mostly, the church is led by money (mammon), hierarchy, which goes directly against the teachings of Jesus, and one pet doctrine. The churches, and all the denominations have all chosen something that Jesus said, or Paul said, and made a church out of it, instead of walking in the reality of the fulness of the revelation of Christ.
Does the mainstream church operate in the Spirit? No. It operates in sermons... Institutions... Nobody wants the risk of letting God have his way and destroy all our ideologies.
Prentis
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Christ's church operating is not a thing of my words.
Christ's church operates in the Spirit. How can I tell you how it's supposed to operate, when every church might operate differently (as far as appearance) because that part of the body has different gifts and men in it? The 'rule' is that it must operate by the Spirit. What it looks like? You cannot put a pattern on it.
If you want a few simple things though:
-The church is led by men who, elders, who are wise and seasoned, as far as learning of and walking in the Spirit. In the modern church, it's all about a formal education. What did the Pharisees say about John and Peter? They have never been educated, yet they have been with Jesus. Today's church is led by men who HAVE been educated, and haven't really been with Jesus.
-Paul says that when we come together all may exercise their gifts, bring a song, a teaching, etc. Today's church has ordained people bringing songs, an ordained pastor bringing a teaching, and a crowd who is only there to sit through it.
-Paul said that when a prophet speaks, the rest of the prophets discern what he says. The church doesn't have 'prophets', it has one teacher or pastor.
It should operate in the truth, walking in what God has commanded.
Christ's church operates in the Spirit. How can I tell you how it's supposed to operate, when every church might operate differently (as far as appearance) because that part of the body has different gifts and men in it? The 'rule' is that it must operate by the Spirit. What it looks like? You cannot put a pattern on it.
If you want a few simple things though:
-The church is led by men who, elders, who are wise and seasoned, as far as learning of and walking in the Spirit. In the modern church, it's all about a formal education. What did the Pharisees say about John and Peter? They have never been educated, yet they have been with Jesus. Today's church is led by men who HAVE been educated, and haven't really been with Jesus.
-Paul says that when we come together all may exercise their gifts, bring a song, a teaching, etc. Today's church has ordained people bringing songs, an ordained pastor bringing a teaching, and a crowd who is only there to sit through it.
-Paul said that when a prophet speaks, the rest of the prophets discern what he says. The church doesn't have 'prophets', it has one teacher or pastor.
It should operate in the truth, walking in what God has commanded.
The gifts in their operation are fluid as you noted, the yielded minister can manifest the particulars of any of the gifts.I do differ however on one of these gifts, as well as three being the total. One thing to keep in mind is the man is not his gifting, nor the gift the man.The evangelist though, in my view, is hands down the most misunderstood of them all. Eph. 4:11-13 includes the evangelist as a gift TO the Church, not the world(in the gifting). Certainly he is to share Jesus, as a mere man, as we all are. Paul in II Tim. 4:1-5 is preparing his ministry son timothy for the Church at Ephesus, v.5 says do the work of an evangelist. The work is described in v.2, rebuke, exhort, convince, with all longsuffering and teaching. How much rebuking is a lost person going to put up with? How can someone with no proper teaching receive exhortation? The evangelist is called and set in the Church. Like the smallest finger on the hand of God, digging deep into the ears of God's kids. I know many today don't recognize the Apostle. Consider II Cor.10:3-6, usually a spiritual warfare passage shows his work. Mat.20:16 the first shall be last and the last shall be first! Our Father began with Apostles and will finish with Apostles. There will be some who can be delt with and not run away. People that will allow an earthly father to be the conduit for The Father. Sadly, some can, some can't and some won't!
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