In The Beginning - The Godhead

[Angelina]

Genesis 1
1 In the beginning 1. God created the heavens and the earth. 2 The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the
2. Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.

3 Then God said 3., “Let there be light”; and there was light. 4 And God saw the light, that it was good; and God divided the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light Day, and the darkness He called Night. So the evening and the morning were the first day

1. God -Father 2. Holy Spirit 3. Word of God (Jesus Christ) = The Godhead

 

[Angelina]

John 1
1 In the beginning was the Word - and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. 4 In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.

14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.

15 John bore witness of Him and cried out, saying, “This was He of whom I said, ‘He who comes after me is preferred before me, for He was before me.’ ”

16 And of His fullness we have all received, and grace for grace. 17 For the law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. 18 No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him.

 

[Angelina]

1 John
7 For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one. 8 And there are three that bear witness on earth: the Spirit, the water, and the blood; and these three agree as one.

 

[Angelina]

2 Corinthians 13:14

The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all.

 

[Angelina]

God the Father, His Son Jesus, The Holy Spirit

Acts 7

54 When they heard these things they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed at him with their teeth. 55 But he, being full of the Holy Spirit, gazed into heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God, 56 and said, “Look! I see the heavens opened and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God!”

57 Then they cried out with a loud voice, stopped their ears, and ran at him with one accord; 58 and they cast him out of the city and stoned him. And the witnesses laid down their clothes at the feet of a young man named Saul. 59 And they stoned Stephen as he was calling on God and saying, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.” 60 Then he knelt down and cried out with a loud voice, “Lord, do not charge them with this sin.” And when he had said this, he fell asleep.

 

[Episkopos]

1 John
7 For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one. 8 And there are three that bear witness on earth: the Spirit, the water, and the blood; and these three agree as one.

This is called the Johannine comma...introduced into the Bible in the Middle Ages by the RC church. It is a known fabrication and no longer used in the most up to date translations.

 

[Angelina]

This is called the Johannine comma...introduced into the Bible in the Middle Ages by the RC church. It is a known fabrication abd no longer used in the most up to date translations.

It would be interesting to find out which bibles are corrupt then because of this error and which bibles are supposedly not???:)

 

[DavidB]

It would be interesting to find out which bibles are corrupt then because of this error and which bibles are supposedly not???:)

While you are researching various translations, realize that since they committed such fraud with the Johannine Comma, you should look to see what else was corrupted and why did they did it.

 

[Aunty Jane]

It would be interesting to find out which bibles are corrupt then because of this error and which bibles are supposedly not???:)

Here is a list of all the Bibles that include these spurious additions to 1 John 5:7....
1 John 5:7 - Bible Gateway

Here is a list of the same translations rendering of verse 8....
1 John 5:8 - Bible Gateway

 

[amadeus]

This is called the Johannine comma...introduced into the Bible in the Middle Ages by the RC church. It is a known fabrication and no longer used in the most up to date translations.

Did anyone walk with God to the end of his course from the time of that fabrication of which you speak until the "most up to date translations" became available to the uneducated public who were unable to read the original languages for themselves?

Did anyone fail to make it to end with God only because he was misled by erroneous translations?

Could not a person be led by the Holy Spirit along the highway of holiness all the way to the Light in spite of erroneous Bible translations?

"Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled." Matt 5:6

 

[Wrangler]

Genesis 1
1 In the beginning 1. God created the heavens and the earth. 2 The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the
2. Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.

3 Then God said 3., “Let there be light”; and there was light. 4 And God saw the light, that it was good; and God divided the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light Day, and the darkness He called Night. So the evening and the morning were the first day

1. God -Father 2. Holy Spirit 3. Word of God (Jesus Christ) = The Godhead

I wonder if there is a better example, other John 1:1, of reading into unitarian text, one's trinity doctrine?

1. Where do you get the idea that there is even a godhead contained in these verses?
2. Where do you get the idea that words are WHO's (Jesus) rather than WHAT's (an attribute of being)? And no 'word of God' is even in the text?
3. Where do you get the idea that the spirit of God is a WHO rather than a WHAT (an attribute of being)?

Compare who spoke the words at Matthew 3:17 about Jesus. (It seems to me that one must 1st have the idea of the trinity, then impose its interpretation on Jewish monotheist text).

 

[Episkopos]

Did anyone walk with God to the end of his course from the time of that fabrication of which you speak until the "most up to date translations" became available to the uneducated public who were unable to read the original languages for themselves?

Did anyone fail to make it to end with God only because he was misled by erroneous translations?

Could not a person be led by the Holy Spirit along the highway of holiness all the way to the Light in spite of erroneous Bible translations?

"Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled." Matt 5:6

The way I see it is that nothing can stop the child of God who remains humble. The problem arises when a dogmatic belief system gets in the way of unity in the Body. If a dogmatic person thinks someone is a heretic for not holding to human traditions...then that person is exposing himself as a carnal religious person. There's no unity with someone like that anyway.

God allows for errors to see who will latch onto the error rather than have an open heart towards others.

People tend to follow other people not God. If something is popular...well for most people, that makes it legit. But popular culture will always resist the truth.

Simplistic ideology is accepted among both the righteous and the unrighteous. That's why we can't come down too hard on those who hold errant views. We will not be judged by what we believe but rather against it. We will each give an account of what we have done with what we have been given. :)

 

[amadeus]

The way I see it is that nothing can stop the child of God who remains humble. The problem arises when a dogmatic belief system gets in the way of unity in the Body. If a dogmatic person thinks someone is a heretic for not holding to human traditions...then that person is exposing himself as a carnal religious person. There's no unity with someone like that anyway.

God allows for errors to see who will latch onto the error rather than have an open heart towards others.

People tend to follow other people not God. If something is popular...well for most people, that makes it legit. But popular culture will always resist the truth.

Simplistic ideology is accepted among both the righteous and the unrighteous. That's why we can't come down too hard on those who hold errant views. We will not be judged by what we believe but rather against it. We will each give an account of what we have done with what we have been given. :)

Thank you for the detailed explanation. This also is part of what people need to hear, if they can hear at all!

It comes back to God looking at a person's heart more carefully than at his doctrines. What are we doing with what we have rather than how right are our thoughts and doctrines compared to those of the other guys?

Doctrine may be very important, but it is Not the most important thing:

"Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I have become sounding brass or a clanging cymbal.
And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.
And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, but have not love, it profits me nothing." I Cor 13:1-3

 

[marks]

It would be interesting to find out which bibles are corrupt then because of this error and which bibles are supposedly not???:)

This is still disputed by people smarter and more knowedgeable than I. Personally I don't accept out of hand dismissal of the passage. It's not needed to show our Triune God, though, as you've been posting, there is so much more.

I was thinking last night about these things. Perhaps the mistake is in thinking that the Spirit which is of God emanates from God as some mindless force.

"In all life Thou livest, the true life of all"

God is alive as none other are alive, and His Spirit has as much personhood as the Father and the Son. We shouldn't think of the Holy Spirit as another kind of electromagnetic energy, or something like that.

Much love!

 

[Johann]

Where do you get the idea that there is even a godhead contained in these verses?

Act_17:29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.

Rom_1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

Col_2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Col 2:9 Because in Moshiach kol melo Elohim (all the plentitude of G-d) finds its bodily maon laShechinah (dwelling place for the Shechinah).

θεοτητος...
theotes
- Phonetic: theh-ot’-ace
- Definition:
1. deity
a. the state of being God, Godhead
- Origin: from G2316
- TDNT entry: 04:59,3
- Part(s) of speech: Noun Feminine
- Strong’s: From G2316; divinity (abstractly): - godhead.
Total KJV Occurrences: 1
• Godhead, 1
Col_2:9


deity
1a) the state of being God, Godhead
Part of Speech: noun feminine
A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: from G2316
More in NTW: G6302


Part of Speech: Noun
Case: Genative (possession, "of"; also origin or separation, "from")
Number: Singular
Gender: Feminine

This would make for an interesting study...
J.

 

[GRACE ambassador]

This is still disputed by people smarter and more knowledgeable than I. Personally I don't accept out of hand dismissal of the passage. It's not needed to show our Triune God, though, as you've been posting, there is so much more.

Amen. It is still Completely Harmonious with the "so Much More" = 500 Passages!

GRACE And Peace...