Did Jesus die on Friday?

[GerhardEbersoehn]

What are you saying?
What do you think happened on the day of Preparation?

THIS:
EVERY WORD AND EVERYTHING WRITTEN WHICH YOU READ AS I READ AS WE ALL READ FROM:
Mark 15:42-47 Matthew 27:57-61 John 19:31-38-42 Luke 23:50-56ab before c. That, just that, all of that - nothing of what happened before "EVENING THE PREPARATION WHICH IS THE FORE-SABBATH", and nothing of what happened after "THAT DAY THE PREPARATION MID-AFTERNOON ENDING TOWARDS THE SABBATH DAY" [epephohsken Sabbaton].
Not what I <think> -- WHAT IS WRITTEN!

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

I don't mind having my balloon popped!

Most manly, aw-inspiring words I have read in all my life. I am struck down. You have smitten me like a mosquito misquoting Scripture. But I swear nothing is misquoted, you read it yourself!

 

[Grailhunter]

THIS:
EVERY WORD AND EVERYTHING WRITTEN WHICH YOU READ AS I READ AS WE ALL READ FROM:
Mark 15:42-47 Matthew 27:57-61 John 13:1-19:30 Luke 23:50-56ab before c. That, just that, all of that - nothing of what happened before "EVENING THE PREPARATION WHICH IS THE FORE-SABBATH", and nothing of what happened after "THAT DAY THE PREPARATION MID-AFTERNOON ENDING TOWARDS THE SABBATH DAY" [epephohsken Sabbaton].
Not what I <think> -- WHAT IS WRITTEN!

Again your grammar is horrible.
So are you saying that you think Christ was not crucified on the day of preparation? Just say yes or no, do not give me a bunch of garbage.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

So are you saying that you think Christ was not crucified on the day of preparation? Just say yes or no, do not give me a bunch of garbage.

The only garbage here is everybody's garbage like being bunked onto the one sidewalk in New York right in front of that beautiful old Presbyterian chapel of stone just up the subway and bridge for reason I won't know. It is everybody's garbage who call themselves Church men. Everybody's. AND THE GARBAGE IS ALL ONE: the scoundrels point blank taunt God in the face and say, "the Preparation of the Passover" in John 19:14 = = = "the Preparation which is the Fore-Sabbath" in Mark 15:42 and parallels Matthew 27:57 John 19:31-38 Luke 23:50 "AFTER EVENING it was the Preparation", say they, NOT "beginning", BUT ending...god....
I beseech thee in THE NAME OF JESUS, brother, sir, Mr, fella, I do not joke or ridicule, I ask IN THE NAME OF JESUS, Don't YOU, see these texts in your KJV Bible? Tell me! Because they are in mine. Therefore one of you and me is blind here, or must LIE.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

This these highly learned Professors teach all sheeple, that EVEN NOT THE LAW OF MOSES MATTERS, that they, can teach him, some lesson in the LAW that commands each separate day of fourteenth day of the Month of Abib for to KILL the passover, that all four Gospels writers letter for letter follow Moses, Mark 14:14,17 Matthew 26:17,20 Luke 22:7,14, so even Paul 1Corinthians 11:23 - IS ANOTHER - IS THE FIFTEENTH DAY OF THE MONTH -- which Texts you see above of verses FAR AHEAD IN TIME AND TEXT. But no, they tell God, Mark 14:14,17 Matthew 26:17,20 Luke 22:7,14 = = = Mark 15:42 and parallels Matthew 27:57 John 19:31-38 Luke 23:50.
Now if the Most High must shut up before these scoundrels, then I must better too?

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

But to bring this discussion back to facts: It is your post, Grailhunter, above, post Yesterday at 7:01 PM#203, that is garbage - Church men garbage piled up in front of the Congregation of Jesus Christ in holy Assembly.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

The accusers of the women were many, and they thronged around her all prepared to relish in her fall. Jesus bent DOWN and WROTE between their feet his WORDS. One by one they left and durst not lift a hand or work or stone or law above her HEAD.

 

[Pierac]

I do not know of one person in your line of education and or occupation, WHO does not agree that John in <his timeline differs when it comes to Jesus death (and) does not match with the other (Gospels) in the time line (and is) not be historically accurate> - of not one!

At the same time I don’t know one of you knows WHY he agrees with all of you.

O yes, all of you do agree that John disagrees because all four Gospels must agree that Jesus rose on Sunday or else they would not and could not be in agreement, but because they are Holy Spirit Inspired they have to be in disagreement, and must so disagree that they prove anyone who disagrees the Gospels disagree denies the Inspiration of the Gospels. And again and again and again, ring a ring a rosies.

That’s not what I mean!
What I mean is, Not one of you have any reason or proof in the Gospels WHY John disagrees with the Synoptists. WHY do you make this claim? ON WHAT DO YOU ALL BASE YOUR IDENTICAL FALSE CLAIM?

AND YET NOT ONE OF YOU KNOW OF ANYTHING.

But I know on what you base and make your claim, I have been SHOWING you this for 45 years with reference to Translation of the Gospels; and I have been showing you this same thing more specifically with reference to RECENT BIBLE CONCORDANCES AND LEXICONS especially IT ‘sources’ like “Strong’s’. Let me spell it out: You ALL AND EVERYONE of you theological supermen BETTER THAN THE SCRIPTURES commentators on the Scriptures, say, Jesus was buried on the same day before sunset the same day BECAUSE YOU ALL FELL FOR Walter Bauer and Brigade that John 19:14 is the same ‘Preparation’ that is in Mark 15:42 Matthew 27:57 John 19:31,38 and Luke 23:50.

Now until “The Preparation OF THE PASSOVER” has been proven with Scripture the same as “The Preparation which is The Fore-Sabbath” (Friday) AND HAS THUS BEEN CHANGED from what stands Written into what is DELIBERATE DECEIT of Antichrist – until then, HEAR! Jesus was NOT Buried the same day before sunset the same day, but was Buried the day AFTER He had been Crucified and had Died, and He Resurrected “the day which is after the Preparation which is the Fore-Sabbath – the third day (of the passover’s “three days thick darkness”) the third day HE SAID: I WILL RISE : Sabbath mid-afternoon towards the First Day (Sunday).”

Here I stand. I cannot deny God’s Word. I will not retract any accusation against Antichrist and cohorts. SO HELP ME GOD.

That's because you only follow those whom teach as you believe!!! silly child.... Pay attention!

John’s text: “It was about noon on the Preparation Day for the Passover” (19:14). In Matthew, Mark, and Luke, Jesus was crucified on the first day of the Passover in the morning. But John tells us Jesus was crucified at noon on the Preparation Day, one day before the first full day of Passover.

In Matthew, Mark, and Luke, the Passover Seder is the Last Supper, and the lambs have been sacrificed and prepared earlier on the Day of Preparation. But in John, Jesus is crucified on the Day of Preparation. Why does John tell us that Jesus was crucified as the lambs were being slaughtered? Because he wants his readers to see Jesus as a kind of Passover lamb. In John 1:29 he has already introduced this theme when John the Baptist looks at Jesus and announces, “Look! The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!”

On that first Passover, the lambs were slaughtered not to take away sin but to spare the firstborn of the Israelites from death. From that time on, the lambs were slaughtered at Passover as a visible reminder of God’s deliverance of the Israelite children from death and of the Israelite people from slavery. This is part of what John wants his readers to see: Jesus, by his death, delivers us from slavery to sin, and he frees us from the fear and power of death.

Like I said GerhardEbersoehn.... John told you why he wrote what he wrote.... Joh 20:31 but these have been written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing you may have life in His name.

Others need to know too! So quit being such a biblical snob.... John was accurate... Just... Spiritually accurate!

Paul

 

[CadyandZoe]

You showed nothing. You cannot. You're not Scripture. Show with Scripture, then expect others to listen to you. As long as you depend on calendars, uh uh uh zippit

Did you watch the video? Just curious.

 

[CadyandZoe]

I do not watch many videos unless they are very short [a few minutes long]. I did watch this one because I studied this subject myself long ago as well as reviewing the studies of others. I will save the location of this video for my own use. Thank you for preparing it and making it available to us.

You're welcome.

 

[CadyandZoe]

I never said that.
The Jewish Sabbath occurs every week....day of rest....remember.....every Saturday.
The Passover occurs every year.....never on the same day....it follows the lunar cycle....the full moon.
The Hebrew days of the week count off and do not follow the lunar cycle.
So each year Passover occurs on a different day. Christ's crucifixion occurred on the Day of Preparation for Passover....the day before Passover.....That year Passover occurred on Saturday.....the Sabbath.. Some calling it a high day or double Sabbath. John 19:31-42 refers to this high day.

The arithmetic did not workout....and I am not going to get into what numbers mean in the Bible.
If arithmetic is the soul reason you want to throw the event off...can not help you.

I get that. But you can't prove that from a calendar. You must assume that the day was a double Sabbath BEFORE you figure out the calendar date, not after.

 

[Grailhunter]

I get that. But you can't prove that from a calendar. You must assume that the day was a double Sabbath BEFORE you figure out the calendar date, not after.

How many calendars?
We can use our calendar, that is not the problem.
It is the lunar cycle that pinpoints the day. And we use our calendar and count back....very simple.
There is no assumption that it was a double sabbath, the scriptures prove that.

 

[CadyandZoe]

I don't mischaracterize your hypothesis. It just doesn't align with the facts! You put in a lot of work and study but the conclusion is wrong. It happens. Happened a lot to me when I thought I found some thing that 2000 years of teh church got wrong. A lot of us have gone through this.

Yes, you did. You mischaracterized my position. And in my opinion, my position aligns with all the facts.

Your argument is this. Since Cady's view allows for the Sabbath to mean "any consecrated day of rest" then he has John saying, "The High day was a high day." This argument assumes that the term "Sabbath" must always be considered a proper noun. Which I don't assume.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Yes, you did. You mischaracterized my position. And in my opinion, my position aligns with all the facts.

Your argument is this. Since Cady's view allows for the Sabbath to mean "any consecrated day of rest" then he has John saying, "The High day was a high day." This argument assumes that the term "Sabbath" must always be considered a proper noun. Which I don't assume.

Well sabbath is shabua which means 7. So when used generically it is not a proper noun. but when referring to the seventh day it is a proper noun, for it is th eday God hallowed and put in as one of the ten commandments. "Remember the Seventh Day for it is holy". The Sadducees and Pharisees and normal every day Jew when they heard teh Sabbath day- they knew it was the seventh day unless in th esentence it was modified by something!

Remember Holy Days of convocation (high days) were ot called Sabbath Days until long after Jesus returned to heaven.

YOu can assume anything you wish, but these are the facts as understood by the Jews of Jesus day! You are entitled to your opinion, but not to you rown set of facts .

 

[CadyandZoe]

How many calendars?
We can use our calendar, that is not the problem.
It is the lunar cycle that pinpoints the day. And we use our calendar and count back....very simple.
There is no assumption that it was a double sabbath, the scriptures prove that.

No, the scriptures do NOT prove it. John is NOT saying that the High Day took place on a Saturday.
But your argument is that the Calendar proves it, which it doesn't.

 

[CadyandZoe]

Remember Holy Days of convocation (high days) were ot called Sabbath Days until long after Jesus returned to heaven.

John called it a sabbath day.

 

[Grailhunter]

No, the scriptures do NOT prove it. John is NOT saying that the High Day took place on a Saturday.
But your argument is that the Calendar proves it, which it doesn't.

This is pretty simple stuff....
And I have explained it in detail and simply in posts 123, 124, 177, 203
What proves the date is the orbit of the moon.
"The Calendar" The Gregorian calendar is not confusing, you can count back to the date.

Now I am giving up on trying to explain it to you....so you believe what you what. I no longer wish to discuss this with you. So stop.