Did Jesus die on Friday?

[Ronald Nolette]

Be kind to the retarded, my friend - explain to me where ever, where once, I spoke or wrote what insisted <Jesus died on the day of preparation for the passover> -- look at YOUR little big word here : <for>. It makes some difference for you. Watch: Jesus tells three of his disciple, "Go and prepare FOR passover so that we MIGHT eat MIGHT keep MIGHT kill the passover". Now that is 'preparation FOR the passover' - most beautiful instance of use John 10:42, "DUE TO [dia] Preparation of the Jews" which That Day began as always 3PM Friday for the Sabbath. One 'prepares' FOR something prospective, not for something that already is ongoing? Hoe's jou hart dan nou? the disciple thought Judas was going to buy something "for the feast" - THE NEXT DAY -- that is to say after the following daylight OF THAT DAY, and would begin "EVENING HAVING COME" - 'opsias genomenehs ehdeh epei Paraskeueh ehn' Mark 15:42 ==== have a look, just posted some sort of scheme

Therefore no my friend, John says in 19:14 "It was 6 AM Preparation OF, Passover" that is to say "it was 6AM Preparation-Passover" Abib 14 2Chronicles 35 et al!

Well te4h month is Nisan not abib.

So now you are saying that Jesus died on Friday? Because he was on the cross the day before sabbath?

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Be kind to the retarded, my friend - explain to me where ever, where once, I spoke or wrote what insisted <Jesus died on the day of preparation for the passover> -- look at YOUR little big word here : <for>. It makes some difference for you. Watch: Jesus tells three of his disciple, "Go and prepare FOR passover so that we MIGHT eat MIGHT keep MIGHT kill the passover". Now that is 'preparation FOR the passover' - most beautiful instance of use John 10:42, "DUE TO [dia] Preparation of the Jews" which That Day began as always 3PM Friday for the Sabbath. One 'prepares' FOR something prospective, not for something that already is ongoing? Hoe's jou hart dan nou? the disciple thought Judas was going to buy something "for the feast" - THE NEXT DAY -- that is to say after the following daylight OF THAT DAY, and would begin "EVENING HAVING COME" - 'opsias genomenehs ehdeh epei Paraskeueh ehn' Mark 15:42 ==== have a look, just posted some sort of scheme

Therefore no my friend, John says in 19:14 "It was 6 AM Preparation OF, Passover" that is to say "it was 6AM Preparation-Passover" Abib 14 2Chronicles 35 et al!

this post here will do Third line- preparation of passover.

last line 6am preparation-passover. You said it not me.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

Well te4h month is Nisan not abib.

what's this? You're ANOTHER TROLL Pretender, you don't care a farthing. God does not slumber.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

YOu say this because you seek to force only one day of preparation and that being the preparation of the Passover! Well teh disciples asaked Jesus where they should prepare the passover and they ate the Passover. After the passover (late Thurs eve) they went to the garden, arrested tired, etc.

Now after all that you insist that Jesus died on the day of preparation for the passover when as a good Jew who fulfilled ALL points of the law- he would have had to eaten the passover meal before passover! Not even a 0% chance of that.

God tells us Jesus died the day before teh Sabbath.

God tell sus that that paticular Sabbath was a high day!. Now go learn Jewish cuylture and learn that the day of preparation is the day of cleansing ones house of all leaven in accord with the law!

Go also learn that teh day before Passavoer, the priests would not scurry about all over the place- they would have been at the temple slaughtering thousand so flambs for passover. These are unalterable facts.

QUACK TROLL FAKE BLASPHEMING ACCUSER OF THE GOD OF SCRIPTURE

 

[CadyandZoe]

Doesn't matter whjat the hotel charges. what matters is how Jews calculated days and a 24 hour period or any portion thereof was considered a day!
But hotels charge by the night. If they charged by the day it would be three days!

Do you really not get the metaphor?
I gave you a metaphor in which a partial day is considered a whole day. But, but BUT the motel charges by the night. Jesus said he would be three NIGHTS in the tomb. Right? RIGHT?

Friday and Saturday nights are TWO nights.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

It's important to always remember, that our Heavenly Father is very accurate with His times for things, and they don't happen just by chance. So when Lord Jesus said He would be in the heart of the earth for three days and three nights like Jonah was in the belly of the fish, that is specifically what He meant.

Matt 12:40
40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
KJV

Since Jesus gave us that formula of "three days and three nights", that is what we must follow. And since the Hebrew calendar reckoning is what was used then by the Jews, from sunset to sunset, that is the reckoning we must also use for those "three days and three nights". Then it's a simple matter of going backwards from Sunday morning when He rose and was seen, and count those "three days and three nights."

sunset to Sunday dawn = sometime Sunday morning early, Jesus rose and was seen.
Saturday dawn to sunset = 3rd day
sunset to Saturday dawn = 3rd night
dawn Friday to sunset = 2nd day
sunset to Friday dawn = 2nd night
dawn Thursday to sunset = 1st day
sunset to Thursday dawn = 1st night
Wednesday at sunset = Jesus' body buried just before sunset

Very clear post, only problem at this point in discussion: <specifically what meant He> with "in the heart of the earth"?
He very clearly did not SAY <in the grave>!

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

 

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[Davy]

Very clear post, only problem at this point in discussion: <specifically what meant He> with "in the heart of the earth"?
He very clearly did not SAY <in the grave>!

3 days and 3 nights, is what He said, and it was pretty clear how He meant that, seeing as how He used the event of Jonah being in the belly of the great fish for 3 days and 3 nights.

And since that has to be figured per the Hebrew calendar reckoning for a day, which was sunset to sunset, a Friday to Sunday morning ain't 3 days and 3 nights. You need to face up to the fact that the early Church had their 'own' traditions in opposition to the actual Scripture, just as it still is today.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

3 days and 3 nights, is what He said, and it was pretty clear how He meant that, seeing as how He used the event of Jonah being in the belly of the great fish for 3 days and 3 nights.

And since that has to be figured per the Hebrew calendar reckoning for a day, which was sunset to sunset, a Friday to Sunday morning ain't 3 days and 3 nights. You need to face up to the fact that the early Church had their 'own' traditions in opposition to the actual Scripture, just as it still is today.

Reject! You answered: <3 days and 3 nights, is what He said, and it was pretty clear how He meant that, seeing as how He used the event of Jonah being in the belly of the great fish for 3 days and 3 nights.> Pretty clear, yes - what's got it to do with my question? Sultsch! Meaningless vacuous weightless words launched into open space far above any gravity.

You continue your 'answer': <And since that has to be figured per the Hebrew calendar reckoning for a day>. <THAT has to be figured> What is <that>? <THAT> is what I asked you: What does "IN THE HEART OF THE EARTH" mean, and you tell me: <since that has to be figured per the Hebrew calendar reckoning for a day>!!!!!

I cannot send you anywhere, Not back to Kindergarten because they don't take in exceptional cases; not to an asylum because they only take in cases where there's still some hope; and I cannot send you to hell because they only take in cases where there's scope for demotion.

You need to face up to the facts of life.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Do you really not get the metaphor?
I gave you a metaphor in which a partial day is considered a whole day. But, but BUT the motel charges by the night. Jesus said he would be three NIGHTS in the tomb. Right? RIGHT?

Friday and Saturday nights are TWO nights.

And you totally ignore that in the culture of the day, when Jews spoke of a day, it mmeant any part of the day unless specified! So when Jesus said he would be three days in the tomb or three days and nights, friday for a few hours, all day saturday and the few hours of Sunday was considered three days to them. that is the fact and it is unalterable.

 

[CadyandZoe]

And you totally ignore that in the culture of the day, when Jews spoke of a day, it mmeant any part of the day unless specified! So when Jesus said he would be three days in the tomb or three days and nights, friday for a few hours, all day saturday and the few hours of Sunday was considered three days to them. that is the fact and it is unalterable.

No. I didn't ignore anything. I gave you a perfect example from modern times whereby a partial day is considered a full day. I don't know why you can't understand the example or why you can't see it.

Let me draw it out this way.

Friday - partial (3:00 pm to sundown)
Friday night - full (sundown to sunrise)
Saturday - full (sunrise to sundown)
Saturday night - full (sundown to sunrise)
Sunday - partial (dawn)

In the picture above I made the word "night" with bold lettering.
There are no partial nights, but just two full nights in your scenario.

Why can't you see it yet?

 

[Ronald Nolette]

No. I didn't ignore anything. I gave you a perfect example from modern times whereby a partial day is considered a full day. I don't know why you can't understand the example or why you can't see it.

Let me draw it out this way.

Friday - partial (3:00 pm to sundown)
Friday night - full (sundown to sunrise)
Saturday - full (sunrise to sundown)
Saturday night - full (sundown to sunrise)
Sunday - partial (dawn)

In the picture above I made the word "night" with bold lettering.
There are no partial nights, but just two full nights in your scenario.

Why can't you see it yet?

Oh I get it perfectly. But what you do not get is that Jews counted them differently in Jesus day. Remember the bible occurred not in 21st century American culture, but in first century Jewish culture and they wrote as they knew.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

QUACK TROLL FAKE BLASPHEMING ACCUSER OF THE GOD OF SCRIPTURE

Using red ink and enlarging the letters do not make your bearing false witness any truer! YOu seem to love writing in flourishes, but those flourishes are as vapid if you wroite them colloquially.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

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what's this? You're ANOTHER TROLL Pretender, you don't care a farthing. God does not slumber.

Wow you call me a troll for telling you Jesus died in the month Nisan and not Abib and then you writea post in huge letters showing that the resurrection occurred in the month Nisan! The greeks had a word for your ad-hominems: Hupo- critos!

 

[CadyandZoe]

Here is a visual illustration of your view.

 

[CadyandZoe]

Oh I get it perfectly. But what you do not get is that Jews counted them differently in Jesus day. Remember the bible occurred not in 21st century American culture, but in first century Jewish culture and they wrote as they knew.

How can you count a physical phenomenon differently. Again, take a look at the picture I sent. How many purple halves to you see?