Yahweh Sends Yahweh

[True Faith]

Λατρεία (Latreía) service to the gods, divine worship,

Romans 9:4

 

[True Faith]

All of the ones I gave you that translate “worship” where what should be translated as “honor.”

proskuneo
Definition

1. to kiss the hand to (towards) one, in token of reverence
2. among the Orientals, esp. the Persians, to fall upon the knees and touch the ground with the forehead as an expression of profound reverence
3. in the NT by kneeling or prostration to do homage (to one) or make obeisance, whether in order to express respect or to make supplication
   1. used of homage shown to men and beings of superior rank
      1. to the Jewish high priests
      2. to God
      3. to Christ
      4. to heavenly beings
      5. to demons

 

[stunnedbygrace]

proskuneo
Definition

1. to kiss the hand to (towards) one, in token of reverence
2. among the Orientals, esp. the Persians, to fall upon the knees and touch the ground with the forehead as an expression of profound reverence
3. in the NT by kneeling or prostration to do homage (to one) or make obeisance, whether in order to express respect or to make supplication
   1. used of homage shown to men and beings of superior rank
      1. to the Jewish high priests
      2. to God
      3. to Christ
      4. to heavenly beings
      5. to demons

Yeah, well in all the languages of men, it’s translated as “worship.” so what you are saying is that no man can understand, hear or read the gospel in their own language and understand it or be saved. They must study Greek or they are all deceived into worshiping a mere man.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

And yet, on that first day, every man heard it in his own language and thousands were saved, despite some of them not understanding a single word of Greek.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

So what is your goal? Isn’t it to save men from worshiping a mere man and the serious offense to God this would bring? And if that is your goal, why tiptoe around there being a serious, serious corruption in the translation in every known language?

 

[True Faith]

Yeah, well in all the languages of men, it’s translated as “worship.” so what you are saying is that no man can understand, hear or read the gospel in their own language and understand it or be saved. They must study Greek or they are all deceived into worshiping a mere man.

Basically, they are all deceived into worshiping "Latreia" a mere man....

to understand scripture you must understand Greek and Hebrew... if you want to get in to the deeper aspects of it...

but if you want to be saved and grow your relationship with God then never call God a liar...

now that you know the true meanings of the words, you can better understand scripture...

I honestly didn't start studying Greek and Hebrew until a couple years ago...

all you have to do is empty your glass and God will show you the world...

God will never tell a lie... God did not come down to do his own will.. he sent Jesus down to do it... that was the Job of Jesus.. Jesus gave up his Divinity and Glory to come down here in service to God...

 

[True Faith]

So what is your goal? Isn’t it to save men from worshiping a mere man and the serious offense to God this would bring? And if that is your goal, why tiptoe around there being a serious, serious corruption in the translation in every known language?

That is the problem.. I am not out to save anyone.. that is not my Job... but what I have to say is what will save you... I just expose the lies being taught with the Guidance of God.. he shows me what I need to know and tells me what and how I should say things....The Spirit resides in me because I gave God control of my life... it is that Spirit that saves me...

 

[True Faith]

And yet, on that first day, every man heard it in his own language and thousands were saved, despite some of them not understanding a single word of Greek.

On what first day???

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Basically, they are all deceived into worshiping "Latreia" a mere man....

to understand scripture you must understand Greek and Hebrew... if you want to get in to the deeper aspects of it...

but if you want to be saved and grow your relationship with God then never call God a liar...

now that you know the true meanings of the words, you can better understand scripture...

I honestly didn't start studying Greek and Hebrew until a couple years ago...

all you have to do is empty your glass and God will show you the world...

God will never tell a lie... God did not come down to do his own will.. he sent Jesus down to do it... that was the Job of Jesus.. Jesus gave up his Divinity and Glory to come down here in service to God...

Okay, at least you have been more firm. All men in every language on earth have been deceived into worshiping Jesus, who is a mere man. And no man can be saved unless he studies Greek. In fact, if he doesn’t study and learn Greek, he cannot be saved but will instead be damned because he offends God greatly by worshiping a mere man as God because of a hideous corruption in the translation in every known language.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

On what first day???

Pentecost.

 

[True Faith]

Okay, at least you have been more firm. All men in every language on earth have been deceived into worshiping Jesus, who is a mere man. And no man can be saved unless he studies Greek. In fact, if he doesn’t study and learn Greek, he cannot be saved but will instead be damned because he offends God greatly by worshiping a mere man as God.

Get you faith out of the Bible and into God.. the bible tells you exactly how to you get saved... Jesus says exactly how...

 

[stunnedbygrace]

You’re a mess.

 

[True Faith]

Pentecost.

Jesus was a Jew and spoke Hebrew...as did all the Jews he spoke to...

 

[True Faith]

You’re a mess.

I may be a mess but I speak the truth...

 

[True Faith]

Pentecost.

Jesus spoke Greek and Hebrew..

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Jesus was a Jew and spoke Hebrew...as did all the Jews he spoke to...

Yes, but Jesus wasn’t there speaking, His disciples were. And it didn’t matter what language they preached the gospel in because every man heard it in his own language.

 

[True Faith]

You’re a mess.

you do know that it was not his death and resurrection that saved you right???...

 

[stunnedbygrace]

I may be a mess but I speak the truth...

No, you don’t speak the truth, but anyone who speaks against their savior Jesus will be forgiven as long as they don’t also speak against the Holy Spirit.

 

[True Faith]

Yes, but Jesus wasn’t there speaking, His disciples were. And it didn’t matter what language they preached the gospel in because every man heard it in his own language.

Gotch now... ever heard or speaking in tongues??? that is where God sends you out and when you speak the words of God, everyone, no matter their language, will hear crystal clear his message...

 

[stunnedbygrace]

you do know that it was not his death and resurrection that saved you right???...

Tsk. You’re going to go all over the place now?