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Yes, but for this, wouldn't we need some prophets recognized by the body?

The case we have on our hand here is not a single case, but there are many such. It's just a rarity to have the self proclamed Christ or apostle come to a forum!


Hey Prentis,

I won't go to someone's homepage, even though you provided that link, -- and just now discovered that your comment was based upon this Edward Palamar's delusions. Yep, -- in the topic, "Recognizing the Anti-Christ ...", Post #16, this individual made the following statement:


http://www.christianityboard.com/topic/14893-recognizing-the-antichrist-and-the-subtle-methods-of-the-adversary/

[quote mame='Michael V Pardo, on 06 November 2011 - 09:22 PM, said']

Even so, I'd be glad to introduce you.
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I baptized Jesus Christ in the river Jordan under His command to do so, and you are going to introduce me to Him after He has raised me from the dead?
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With all the ~white supremacists~ and a resurrected John the Baptist, -- the demons are certainly howling.

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Hey Prentis,

"Edward Palamar" has already provided a page from his book in that Jesus has "already returned".

Thus my council that he get a different book.

BibleScribe

Christ told me to give in to Him until it would be time to fulfill all righteousness, which is now. This is from agreement with Christ Himself Who has raised me from the dead - I am a living testament to Christ's return.

. . . ressurected . . .

The correct spelling is resurrected (one 's' then two 'r').

Edward, you are nothing short of a loose cannon. You are measuring yourself by yourself, condemning all who do not submit to your authority, and speaking as though you were God. You speak by your own authority.

If you can't speak, that is one thing - but if you won't speak, that is another. And if one won't speak while holding another in contempt on-line, that is called cyberbullying. I can tell by your descript that you more embrace cyberbullying than condemn it. Why?
 

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Christ told me to give in to Him until it would be time to fulfill all righteousness, which is now. This is from agreement with Christ Himself Who has raised me from the dead - I am a living testament to Christ's return.



The correct spelling is resurrected (one 's' then two 'r').



If you can't speak, that is one thing - but if you won't speak, that is another. And if one won't speak while holding another in contempt on-line, that is called cyberbullying. I can tell by your descript that you more embrace cyberbullying than condemn it. Why?



Once again, what is your name, and how many are you?


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BibleScribe

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To All,

Please allow me to clarify my previous post (being it is past the Edit timeline) per the following circumstance:


Topic: Recognizing the antichrist ..., Post #16
http://www.christianityboard.com/topic/14893-recognizing-the-antichrist-and-the-subtle-methods-of-the-adversary/


Edward Palamar, on 07 November 2011 - 04:54 PM, said:
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I baptized Jesus Christ in the river Jordan under His command to do so, and you are going to introduce me to Him after He has raised me from the dead?




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After Christ sat down at the right Hand of God, Then He knew the day and the Hour.

He can now reveal it to whom He chooses.

The two witnesses will know.

Matthew 11
27 All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him.
 

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After Christ sat down at the right Hand of God, Then He knew the day and the Hour.

He can now reveal it to whom He chooses.

The two witnesses will know.

Matthew 11
27 All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him.

People that are able to read Scripture with understanding can know also.
 

us2are1

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After Christ sat down at the right Hand of God, Then He knew the day and the Hour.

He can now reveal it to whom He chooses.

The two witnesses will know.

Matthew 11
27 All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him.


Matthew 24
36 "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only.

John 14
9 Jesus said to him, "Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, 'Show us the Father'?
 

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People that are able to read Scripture with understanding can know also.

Correct. Those who heed God's Word as written can know within 3.5 days of Christ's second coming. We just don't know when that 3.5 days will begin yet. But those in Christ Jesus still alive on earth who heed the Scripture will know.
 

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1. 150 scholars at the Jesus seminar agree with what the renowned Dead Sea Scrolls scholar Geza Vermes wrote that when Jesus spoke about the Son of Man to come he was not speaking of himself.

2. The criteria of the signs that Jesus gave were extensive to those that understand them. One of those signs was the sign of Jonah that arrived in Israel in 2010.

3. In one of the gospels he also mentions the age the person would be when they are summoned and how old they would be when their work ended

4. Surprise, surprise, it is the woman mentioned in Micah 4, Rev 45, Rev 46, Psalm 92 and Rev 12. In Micah 4 she is the Messenger of the Covenant.

5. King David was given a new revelation and was told that the Lute of Lovingkindness would come at daytime. In my humble view that was Jesus Christ. That made King David very happy because he knew that the prophet promised to Moses was not going to be born in Israel. He also knew that the prophet would be a woman. The one promised to Moses is the Harp of Faithfulness mentioned in Psalm 92 and the prophecy tells you that they come at night time. e.g. last days of the end times. That fits perfectly with the fact that Jesus told his true followers that if he did not leave, then the next paraclete would not come to help them.
 

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1. 150 scholars at the Jesus seminar agree with what the renowned Dead Sea Scrolls scholar Geza Vermes wrote that when Jesus spoke about the Son of Man to come he was not speaking of himself.


That would be 150 DECEIVED scholars at the Jesus seminar then...


Rev 1:5-8
5 And from Jesus Christ, Who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto Him That loved us, and washed us from our sins in His own blood,
6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and His Father; to Him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
7 Behold, He cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see Him, and they also which pierced Him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of Him. Even so, Amen.
8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
(KJV)
 

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That would be 150 DECEIVED scholars at the Jesus seminar then...


Rev 1:5-8
5 And from Jesus Christ, Who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto Him That loved us, and washed us from our sins in His own blood,
6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and His Father; to Him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
7 Behold, He cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see Him, and they also which pierced Him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of Him. Even so, Amen.
8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
(KJV)

Are you a king and a High Priest?

Now read on to Rev 2 and Rev 3, read about the one that he chose to put upon his throne. The one that stood against Jezebel.
 

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Are you a king and a High Priest?

Now read on to Rev 2 and Rev 3, read about the one that he chose to put upon his throne. The one that stood against Jezebel.


I know what I am (a follower of The Father through His Son Jesus Christ; that means I am a Christian).

But you sir, are an 'antichrist', because what you're posting is in denial of Jesus of Nazareth as God The Saviour crucified at Jerusalem.
 

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1. 150 scholars at the Jesus seminar agree with what the renowned Dead Sea Scrolls scholar Geza Vermes wrote that when Jesus spoke about the Son of Man to come he was not speaking of himself.

2. The criteria of the signs that Jesus gave were extensive to those that understand them. One of those signs was the sign of Jonah that arrived in Israel in 2010.

3. In one of the gospels he also mentions the age the person would be when they are summoned and how old they would be when their work ended

4. Surprise, surprise, it is the woman mentioned in Micah 4, Rev 45, Rev 46, Psalm 92 and Rev 12. In Micah 4 she is the Messenger of the Covenant.

5. King David was given a new revelation and was told that the Lute of Lovingkindness would come at daytime. In my humble view that was Jesus Christ. That made King David very happy because he knew that the prophet promised to Moses was not going to be born in Israel. He also knew that the prophet would be a woman. The one promised to Moses is the Harp of Faithfulness mentioned in Psalm 92 and the prophecy tells you that they come at night time. e.g. last days of the end times. That fits perfectly with the fact that Jesus told his true followers that if he did not leave, then the next paraclete would not come to help them.

Antichrist masoretes taught everyone to read the dead sea scrolls. That makes Geza Vermes a antichrist or an Idiot who can't discern His right from His Left. Definitely not spiritual leader material. As for the 150 scholars David Coresh and Jim Jones had more followers than that.




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Antichrist masoretes taught everyone to read the dead sea scrolls. That makes Geza Vermes a antichrist or an Idiot who can't discern His right from His Left. Definitely not spiritual leader material. As for the 150 scholars David Coresh and Jim Jones had more followers than that.




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Goodness gracious me and you call yourselves Christians. For those of you that have an issue with the Dead Sea Scrolls I recommend a book by Geza Vermes called 'Jesus the Jew'. He provides you with a range of excellent references. Geza Vermes is one of the very best biblical scholars.

To those that know what an anti-christ is, they also know that Geza Vermes was a supporter of Jesus Christ not one that stood against him and as we know Jesus taught that those that do not stand against us are with us.

Do try to have his hesed because you know how he feels about those that are accusers and adversaries of the holy ones.

I know what I am (a follower of The Father through His Son Jesus Christ; that means I am a Christian).

But you sir, are an 'antichrist', because what you're posting is in denial of Jesus of Nazareth as God The Saviour crucified at Jerusalem.

Back up your claim.
 

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Back up your claim.

Simple...

WISDOM SO-CALLED wrote:
"1. 150 scholars at the Jesus seminar agree with what the renowned Dead Sea Scrolls scholar Geza Vermes wrote that when Jesus spoke about the Son of Man to come he was not speaking of himself."


Acts 7:55-56
55 But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,
56 And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.
(KJV)

John 8:28
28 Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am He, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.
(KJV)


But what you say per Vermes, that Jesus was not speaking of that 'Son of Man' as Himself. That's LIE no.1.


2. The criteria of the signs that Jesus gave were extensive to those that understand them. One of those signs was the sign of Jonah that arrived in Israel in 2010.

The sign of Jonah has already past, as Christ compared His being in the tomb 3 days and 3 nights to Jonah being inside the great fish for 3 days. Christ already came and died on the cross over 2,000 years ago. To say it only happened in 2010 is to DENY Christ already came and died on the cross. Those who deny such are defined by Apostle John as an 'antichrist'.
 

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Acts 7:55-56
And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.
(KJV) John 8:28 28 Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am He, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.
(KJV)

Daniel and Ezekiel were also called 'Son of Man' it is a term of endearment for a prophet.

But what you say per Vermes, that Jesus was not speaking of that 'Son of Man' as Himself. That's LIE no.1.

Geza Vermes and the rest of other Jesus biblical scholars are talking about when he spoke about the one to come. Not past tense. Do you know the difference between the past and the present tense?

The sign of Jonah has already past,

No, because the scripture about the sign of Jonah is to do with the last days of the end times, the Queen of the South and the judgement of this generation. After the whale arrived in Israel in 2010, 5 million trees burned down on Mount Carmel.

Christ already came and died on the cross over 2,000 years ago. To say it only happened in 2010 is to DENY Christ already came and died on the cross. Those who deny such are defined by Apostle John as an 'antichrist'.

What on earth are you talking about? The passage about the Queen of South is about the last days of the end times and he told the Jewish priests that she would have more wisdom than Solomon.
 

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Daniel and Ezekiel were also called 'Son of Man' it is a term of endearment for a prophet.

So, Jesus of Nazareth was nothing more than a prophet to you?


Geza Vermes and the rest of other Jesus biblical scholars are talking about when he spoke about the one to come. Not past tense. Do you know the difference between the past and the present tense?

I know, but apparently you do not. Christ came the first time to be the Perfect Sacrifice for sin for one and all time, as written. And also as written, He is to return a second time not meek as a Lamb to be slaughtered, but to rule with a rod of iron in judgment.


No, because the scripture about the sign of Jonah is to do with the last days of the end times, the Queen of the South and the judgement of this generation. After the whale arrived in Israel in 2010, 5 million trees burned down on Mount Carmel.

That's a falsehood. Here's how Christ used the sign of Jonah at His first coming to die on the cross...

Matt 12:39-40
39 But He answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:
40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
(KJV)

That was about Christ's first coming to die on the cross, His body entombed for 3 days and 3 nights, and then He was resurrected, and appeared to His disciples for forty days before ascending to the Father.



What on earth are you talking about? The passage about the Queen of South is about the last days of the end times and he told the Jewish priests that she would have more wisdom than Solomon.

"Jewish priests" as in Pharisee Judaism?? This is a Christian forum, not a forum to push Judaism which refuses Jesus of Nazareth as The Christ.
 

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Goodness gracious me and you call yourselves Christians. For those of you that have an issue with the Dead Sea Scrolls I recommend a book by Geza Vermes called 'Jesus the Jew'. He provides you with a range of excellent references. Geza Vermes is one of the very best biblical scholars.

To those that know what an anti-christ is, they also know that Geza Vermes was a supporter of Jesus Christ not one that stood against him and as we know Jesus taught that those that do not stand against us are with us.

Do try to have his hesed because you know how he feels about those that are accusers and adversaries of the holy ones.

You didn't hear a word that I said.

Saint John gave the definition for the antichrist.

They are the ones who wrote all of the known lexicons on how to speak ancient Hebrew, Aramaic and Chaldean.

They are not to be trusted, at all.