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Smith Wigglesworth was a might man of God. I wish there were men like that today - or a modern day Nehemiah to re-build the Church.
The articles was about correspondance from him concerning his sexual explots of women under his ministry by himself.
King David had some 'sexual exploits' of his own but yet God forgave him and used him. In fact a lot of biblical people had imperfect pasts. You need to look at the good in a person and not the bad.
Lambano
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I've never heard of Mr. Wigglesworth, but I did note the author of the article was Ted Haggard. If news of Mr. Haggard's own scandal did not reach the U.K., you can Google it.
Perhaps the Gospel can be best proclaimed in the humility of a sinner who knows how badly they need God's grace themselves?
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He came to Wellington, NZ in May 1922. 1922 New Zealand Revival - BEAUTIFUL FEET
David was not a Pastor leading a Church.
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Above Reproach
(Titus 1:6, 7; 1 Tim 3:2)
A pastor must be self-controlled (Titus 1:8; 1 Tim 3:2). Self-control is a characterization of every area of a pastor’s life: diet, time, mouth, exercise, relationships, sex, and money.
A pastor must be upright (Titus 1:8). He has integrity in his relationships and in how he treats others.
A pastor must be holy (Titus 1:8). His life is devoted wholeheartedly to Jesus externally and internally.
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A pastor must be spiritually mature (1 Tim 3:6). Positions of authority without spiritual maturity lead to the trap of pride. When pride grows in a man, sin abounds.
A pastor must be respectable (1 Tim 3:7). That does not mean that everyone must like him or even appreciate him. It means that there is no credible witness to an ongoing sinful behavior.
A pastor must be an example to the flock (1 Peter 5:3). Elders are examples of biblical expressions sexually, time management, marriage, parenting, worship, relationships and any other way. A pastor should be someone your sons could pattern their life after and the kind of man your daughter should marry."
Biblical Qualifications of a Pastor - Acts 29
No he was a KIng chosen and anointed by God to lead God's people.
Pathfinder7
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I just read/found your post..about 1922 New Zealand Revival.
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Interesting historical note:
Smith Wiggleworth & David du Plessis.
- He told du Plessis..in 1936.
- du Plessis will have an important role..in coming Move of God.
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It did happen..
Charismatic Movement/Renewal..started in 1960's.
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I met him..many years ago..
- in early 1980's.
No, he was a king chosen and anointed by God to lead God's people.
atpollard
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From the comments to the Article:
So my opinions:
know Smiths great grand daughter, you must remember the era that this occurred in was a puritan era. in those days when a man called on a woman and took her on a date he was expected to marry her. So what happened is he took a lady to dinner and didn’t marry her. That is all. “misconduct”is totally different today of course .. how sad
My initial thoughts on the article ... a Pastor that betrays his office and offers a simple "Sorry, but God forgave me" [paraphrase] and then plans to continue as if nothing had happened does not FEEL like honest "repentance" of any sort to me. After reading the comment about his "misconduct" of dining with a lady ... I have to wonder if he HAD ANYTHING to repent of.So my opinions:
- sin ain't nothing ... don't treat it like it didn't matter and business as usual.
- the BIBLE defines what is sin ... let's avoid becoming Pharisees that add heavy burdens to God's word
- restoration is not merely POSSIBLE ... it is JESUS' "family business" (and we are supposed to be part of that family)
Smith Wigglesworth: Disqualified? – The Pastor's Pen
God confirmed Smith Wigglesworth’s ministry through powerful signs and wonders, including the creative formation of missing limbs and the disappearance of cancerous growths. His words continue to provide spiritual, financial, emotional, and physical healing as they inspire and build faith...
tedhaggardblog.com
atpollard
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I am not sure why you quoted the blog as your only response to my comments, but I disagree with much of what is written in the blog. Furthermore, I challenge anyone to find the “carry on in leadership as if the sin never happened” attitude of both Wigglesworth and Ted (the blog writer) anywhere in the Apostolic writings. In the blog, both Wigglesworth and the blogger respond to the view that Godly men should suggest that a brother caught in sin should undergo a season of repentance as “how dare any man attempt to stand in judgement of me” … while Jesus commands us to do just that (where two or three agree …) and Paul commands us to turn a man that refuses correction over to Satan for punishment to break his pride and save his soul. Wigglesworth proclaimed himself above all other Christians and not someone that needed to submit to any “one another“. That may be popular in 21st Century America, but it is the antithesis of what the Bible teaches.Smith Wigglesworth: Disqualified? – The Pastor's Pen
God confirmed Smith Wigglesworth’s ministry through powerful signs and wonders, including the creative formation of missing limbs and the disappearance of cancerous growths. His words continue to provide spiritual, financial, emotional, and physical healing as they inspire and build faith...
To invite all Christians to embrace an unbiblical and pride-filled example is to embrace a spirit of “antichrist” and deny the role of the Body of Christ. Leaders that fall into gross sin are disqualified from the BIBLICAL roles of LEADERSHIP: Deacon and Elder. The Bible defines the qualifications, not the “feelings” of the man fallen into sin.
Why are you so against Wigglesworth? Have you read any of the books about him? Let those without sin cast the first stone . . . .
marksman
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Smith Wigglesworth (1859—1947) was a British preacher who was influential in the early Pentecostal movement. Wigglesworth, along with Charles Parham in the U.S., was one of the first preachers to espouse and practice the teachings of Pentecostalism, particularly faith healing and the gift of tongues as evidence of the baptism of the Holy Spirit. Fans of Wigglesworth call him the “Apostle of Faith.”Who was Smith Wigglesworth? | GotQuestions.org
Smith Wigglesworth taught several false doctrines:
• All sickness is proof of the presence of the devil. This leaves no room for God’s purposes in suffering (2 Corinthians 1:8–9; Hebrews 12:6).
• Illness and disease are linked to personal sin. This ignores Jesus’ teaching on the subject (John 9:1–3).
• It is always God’s will to heal a person physically. Paul’s testimony teaches the contrary, that is it not always God’s will to heal us in this life (2 Corinthians 12:7–10).
• If a person is not healed, the blame lies in that person’s lack of faith. This overlooks the fact that Jesus once healed a man who had no faith at all (John 5:1–9).
• All sickness is proof of the presence of the devil. This leaves no room for God’s purposes in suffering (2 Corinthians 1:8–9; Hebrews 12:6).
• Illness and disease are linked to personal sin. This ignores Jesus’ teaching on the subject (John 9:1–3).
• It is always God’s will to heal a person physically. Paul’s testimony teaches the contrary, that is it not always God’s will to heal us in this life (2 Corinthians 12:7–10).
• If a person is not healed, the blame lies in that person’s lack of faith. This overlooks the fact that Jesus once healed a man who had no faith at all (John 5:1–9).
Who was Smith Wigglesworth? | GotQuestions.org
Who was Smith Wigglesworth? What was Smith Wigglesworth's role in early Pentecostalism? What was the primary emphasis of Smith Wigglesworth’s teaching?
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