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Daniel 9:27You have not a single verse saying there is a 7 year covenant. That is something a human made up.
The AoD is only 42 months, not 7 years.
And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
Half of seven years is 42 months. We also have that in years and days. WE know that pact involves Israel. We know that in the middle of that week the antichrist offend the Jews totally and whatever agreement they had, he now breaks it by setting up the abomination as Jesus said, and persecuting the Jews, attacking Israel etc. So much so that Jesus said to flee right away when they see this. Do not even go to get clothes and stuff in your house.
I don't even know what that means, but I do not see this in the bible. Jesus never mentioned it. Etc.God removes the Atonement during those 42 months, not 7 years.
Say what?! You think God is sending witnesses and Jewish people from various tribes, and even angels preaching the gospel to tell people they cannot be saved!!You think it wrong to remove Salvation for 42 months?
Believers are never cut off! Nations that reject His word and kill His prophets etc do get cut off. There were plenty of believers like Daniel, Mary and Joseph, etc etc etc.How do you think Israel felt to be cut off from God for thousands of years? Do you think their religion has been a comforting replacement for God's Atonement?
The key here is 'given'. There are rules and limits and a very fixed time. He also is taking out the Bride before that happens! Then the new saints are helped with a little help, the witnesses fry enemies that try to kill them, there are miracles etc etc. Satan has no power over us! Jesus has overcome the world. The power Satan will have is over the kingdoms of the world.When Satan is given 100% control for 42 months, you think God wants to be part of that?
The ones in heaven were killed, how did you think they got to heaven!? The fact they are in heaven does not mean the beheading act saved them!The people who "get saved" are people without a head.
They are dead saints who are resurrected in Revelation 20:4. If you have the mark and your head, you cannot be resurrected in Revelation 20:4. You would have to wait for the 1,000 years to be over, and stand as dead at the GWT.
Yes meaning that like we received new bodies at the rapture, the new saints are resurrected later when He returns as well. Of course the wicked will not be getting this then.
Not so much as you think. There is also thrones. What did the Bride get in the Marriage Supper after the Rapture? Crowns! Rewards! So there are many many folks in heaven. Adam and Eve, all the bible heros, believers from the various ages etc etc. And, and the verse adds at the end, also, of course, some newbies from the tribulation who were killed."And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus"
Seems pretty specific who were seen here.
It doesn't matter how they died! If a wicked follower of Satan died by losing their head, so what? If a new believer in the tribulation had a vehicle accident they still go to heaven! If they get shot. If they were sick and died, if they were hit by lighting! The way we die does not save us, Jesus saves.Would you say some people who had the mark, did not actually have the mark, but were faking? Were they also faking their head was cut off, even while walking around with a head on?