Wrangler
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Jesus was not created!
Of course Jesus was created. Sons, by definition, are created beings.
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Jesus was not created!
I didnt say the other 19 were in 1822-I said MR Kneelands was 1822--Would be impossible to write the bible in Greek and compare it to English if one wasnt a Greek scholar.
You will find out different. Jesus has a God--God does not have a God. If Jesus were God he already had all authority, but someone superior=his God gave him all authority, His God gave him the name above other names or its clear at Heb 1:4 that he is only above the angels because God gave him the name above others. Psalm 45:7--Jesus has a God-Partners= angels. But he as well must hand back the kingdom to his God and Father and subject himself=Forever-1Cor 15:24-28)-God is in subjection to no one. Your translations are filled with contradictory errors.
As long as you ignore the verse I posted sir, you are quite correct, his name is not above Jehovah's, nor is his authority as we agree on.
The Bible says he was, and of course I believe it sir. All spirit creatures with the exception of Jehovah was created, and Adam and Eve were created as well.
Jesus and his apostles gathered for the passover, and after they had observed the passover meal, Jesus instituted something different, he gave some unleavened bread to his apostles, and said they symbolized his body which was to be given in their behalf, and then the wine, which represented his blood. He told them to continue to observe that. He then made a covenant with them, and became the passover for us Christians from that point on.
It seems you are just asserting this as so.fully agree that teh Father is the God of God the son- but that does not make the son anyless "God" in nature than the Father.
Well my bad. It was written in a way that leads one to conclude 19 were available in 1822. But Kneeland was no greek scholar!
Well I searched and there is no record of his studying Greek. Ball is in your court to show he is a greek scholar.
And no, it would not be impossible to translate (badly) if one wasn'rt a scholar.
Just look at the NWT- not one Greek scholar was on the translation committee.
No mortalGreek scholar was on that commitee-God was through holy spirit=the #1 Greek scholar.
So ignorant men who didn't know squat about the complexities of Hebrew and Greek took Hebrew and Greek manuscripts and translated them?
Are you really that gullible?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
I wonder if you were to have brain surgery and teh doctor never studied medicine but just prayed, if you would let him cut you open?
But yo0u will trust the precious Word of God to unlearned men?
The man Jesus was procreated, as you know Ron. If you are unaware of this the account is found at Mat 1:18-22; Luke 1:34,35the man Jesus was created. but as He existed before all eterntiy as God the Word, He also wasn't created.
Jesus promised to guide his real teachers into all truth through holy spirit did he not? Its all that is needed by his real teachers.
The man Jesus was procreated, as you know Ron. If you are unaware of this the account is found at Mat 1:18-22; Luke 1:34,35
Let's reason on what the Bible says about Jesus' creation. May I ask you who the faithful witness is of Rev 1:5?
Hope I will what?
Wow you are that gullible! that is the truths of the Word, not how to translate languages or perform a delicate medical procedure.
Remind me to never trust anyone in you rfamily with a task that needs an education to do.
Wow such darkness not to believe Jesus and claim to follow him. Jesus said--all truth. John 16:13--- How little faith you have in God. Languages are a minor to him.
But He does not empower men to translate on elanguage to another when they nothing of that language- Paul made that clear in Corinth.
God can do anything He wishes- but now you have to prove that an anonymous group with no knowledge of linguistics or Greek and Hebrew can take manuscripts in language they no not and translate them.
Still won't gpo too any of your family to get anything done.
I want my mechanic to knoe mechanics.
I want a translator of Gods Word to know th eoriginal languages.
I have found numerous errors in the New World Mistranslation and I only had a year of Greek and Hebrew!
The man Jesus was procreated as I told you., However Jesus before given that name and before becoming a man was not created. As it says in Phil. 2 before He became a man, He was in the form of God (morphe, form, shape, character), and He emptied Himself. Of what? of being in the form of god! I shouldn't have to tell you who the faithful witness is- Gods Word says His name!