Can a Person be Born Homosexual?

[ByGraceThroughFaith]

You know I'm not talking about "science", right? The Bible tells us this. We are corrupted by sin all the way from Adam, until we are reborn in Christ.

Much love!

the Bible also says that ALL homosexuality is SIN, with ZERO exceptions, and that it is IMPOSSIBLE for any person to be born as such. Period.

 

[ByGraceThroughFaith]

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Ps 58:3 targets children from the moment of birth rather those not yet born.
However, David goes back even further by saying he was a sinner at the
moment of his conception. (Ps 51:5)

Now that's very interesting because if David is right, then it means people
are sinners even before they sin. For example lions are carnivores even
before they've tasted meat because the processes of their conception pretty
much determine the nature of their existence, viz: they have no say in their
coming out a meat eater, just as David had no say in his coming out a
sinner before he'd even done anything wrong.



People need not have a prior knowledge of evil to be guilty of evil.

For example: Lev 4:22-35 requires atonement for sins of ignorance.

This again is very interesting because it means that folks who fail to take
advantage of the ransom Christ offers will have to face justice at the great
white throne event for things they had no idea at the time were wrong.

Compare David's prayer at Ps 19:12 where he said; "Who can understand his
errors? Cleanse thou me from secret faults."
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the Bible is clear, that no person is born "a sinner", though with a "sinful nature". To be a "sinner", one must commit an act of sin,k which no baby or infant can possibly do

 

[marks]

the Bible also says that ALL homosexuality is SIN, with ZERO exceptions, and that it is IMPOSSIBLE for any person to be born as such. Period.

It sounds like you are thinking that people aren't born dead in sin, is that right?

Much love!

 

[marks]

the Bible is clear, that no person is born "a sinner", though with a "sinful nature". To be a "sinner", one must commit an act of sin,k which no baby or infant can possibly do

There's that question . . . Do we sin because we are sinners? OR are we sinners because we sin? I think the real question is, are we born spiritually alive? Or spiritually dead?

Because unless we are born spiritually alive, we will sin just like we will breathe.

Much love!

 

[Bob Estey]

Can a Person be Born Homosexual?


The very short answer to this, from the Holy Bible, is a resounding, NO!

Regardless of what so-called “science” may say, about some people who are born with a “homosexual gene”, the irrefutable evidence in the Infallible, Inerrant and Perfect Word of God, the Holy Bible, is very clear on this important subject.

It is IMPOSSIBLE for any human being, who is Created in the Image of Almighty God, though fallen, to be “born” as a homosexual.

In the first place, we read in Romans chapter 1, where Paul, writing under the Inspiration of God the Holy Spirit, says:

“For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due” (verses 26-27)

In this passage, we have the use of the Greek adjective, “physikós”, which is translated as “natural”. Here it has the literal root use of, “inborn”, which here means, “inherited from parents or possessed from birth”, as part of the humans DNA. God has made sure, that each and every person who is born, has from the time of conception, inbuilt in their DNA, the natural desire for the opposite sex.

In the second place, we also have the very clear Testimony of passages in the Holy Bible, where homosexuality is regarded as, and condemned as SIN.

‘You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination’. Leviticus 18:22

‘If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them’. Leviticus 20:13

‘For this reason God gave them up to dishonourable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error’. Romans 1:26-27

‘Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor persons who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God’.1 Corinthians 6:9-10

‘The law is not laid down for the just but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who strike their fathers and mothers, for murderers, for the sexually immoral, persons who practise homosexuality, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine’.1 Timothy. 1:9-10

If humans can be “born” as homosexuals, then God, Who is The Righteous Judge, would not have said in His Infallible Word, that homosexuality is “SIN”. Because, if a person can indeed be “born” homosexual, as from their birth, then it is something that is outside of their control, and they cannot have a real “choice” in this.

The Word of God is clear, that homosexuality is SINFUL, and therefore not as part of the humans DNA, from their Creation in their mothers womb.

“Science” is perverting what the Holy Bible Teaches on this subject, to justify the SINFUL lives of those who CHOOSE to be homosexual, which is clearly against what God says.

No, I don't believe people are born homosexual.

 

[Webers_Home]

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To be a "sinner", one must commit an act of sin,k which no baby or infant can
possibly do

According to Ps 58:3, babies are liars at birth.

According to 1John 3:15 it's possible to be a murderer without first killing
somebody

According to Matt 5:28, it's possible to be an adulterer without first sleeping
with somebody.
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[ByGraceThroughFaith]

There's that question . . . Do we sin because we are sinners? OR are we sinners because we sin? I think the real question is, are we born spiritually alive? Or spiritually dead?

Because unless we are born spiritually alive, we will sin just like we will breathe.

Much love!

sounds like you are confused

 

[ByGraceThroughFaith]

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According to Ps 58:3, babies are liars at birth.

According to 1John 3:15 it's possible to be a murderer without first killing
somebody

According to Matt 5:28, it's possible to be an adulterer without first sleeping
with somebody.
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according to the Bible, ALL infants are not sinners!

 

[marks]

sounds like you are confused

I'm asking the reader to consider the question. Some have, some may not have, but it clarifies the matter.

We have all fallen short - universally - because we are all born in the corruption brought by sin. The sin Adam committed passed corruption to all of us, and we are all born spiritually dead. Being spiritually dead, we cannot ever hope to attain to some spiritual life, relationship with God, without being born again.

Much love!

 

[Webers_Home]

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ALL infants are not sinners!

Be careful you say: you're not an infant.
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[ByGraceThroughFaith]

I'm asking the reader to consider the question. Some have, some may not have, but it clarifies the matter.

We have all fallen short - universally - because we are all born in the corruption brought by sin. The sin Adam committed passed corruption to all of us, and we are all born spiritually dead. Being spiritually dead, we cannot ever hope to attain to some spiritual life, relationship with God, without being born again.

Much love!

either the Bible teaches that homosexuality is sin, and that humans cannot be "born" homosexual, as in the OP; or it does not. It is that simple

 

[ByGraceThroughFaith]

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Be careful you say: you're not an infant.
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read #31

 

[BeyondET]

contemplate “man” and “woman” as allegorical in the Bible (there are no…male and female in the kingdom), and the discussions on what is translated to us as “homosexuality” (at least NT) take on a different caste, fwiw. Even digging into a Strong’s at arsenokoitai (a term that Paul may have even coined) is fairly revealing, imo

but i wonder what yall might say about one born with both sets of equipment?

Science calls it ambiguous external genitalia, a blurring between masculine and feminine features.

What is the proper thing to say to someone with both sets or what do parents do with a new born like that. There's not only external blurring going on but internal blurs also.

 

[bbyrd009]

We're born dead in sin

you can believe that if you like, but i doubt that it is true, this making infants into sinners
from a young age def seems to fit better with when i killed Immanuel, at least

 

[bbyrd009]

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Be careful you say: you're not an infant.
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you have to work really hard, and ignore a lot of other Scripture, to make infants into sinners imo
where there is no law, there is no sin, right

 

[bbyrd009]

either the Bible teaches that homosexuality is sin, and that humans cannot be "born" homosexual, as in the OP; or it does not. It is that simple

well, you are reading a translation, right
so go ahead and make “homosexuals” into sinners for now, but understand that there might be more steps on that ladder ok

imo anyone who spends like 20 minutes in arsenokoitai would have a…diff perspective

 

[bbyrd009]

Science calls it ambiguous external genitalia, a blurring between masculine and feminine features.

What is the proper thing to say to someone with both sets or what do parents do with a new born like that. There's not only external blurring going on but internal blurs also.

why dont we read There are no…male and female in the kingdom as literally as we do the rest?
fwiw i suggest that our judgmental nature is being taken advantage of to hide a deeper truth @ “homosexual,” which is not even a very good translation of arsenokoitai imo, as much as i am not interested in being the apologist for gay ppl

personally i found “bed kitten” (literally) or something like maybe “hedonist,” although i didnt wanna influence anyone there

 

[Jim B]

you can believe that if you like, but i doubt that it is true, this making infants into sinners
from a young age def seems to fit better with when i killed Immanuel, at least

marks is right. All humans are descended from Adam and all have inherited his sin nature. That is what the New Testament clearly says, and why we all need the believe in the Savior 's paying the penalty for our sins.

 

[Jim B]

well, you are reading a translation, right
so go ahead and make “homosexuals” into sinners for now, but understand that there might be more steps on that ladder ok

imo anyone who spends like 20 minutes in arsenokoitai would have a…diff perspective

Homosexuality is one of many sins described in the Bible. The penalty for any sin is death.

However, we are instructed to love our neighbor as ourself, not condemn them.

 

[Jim B]

you have to work really hard, and ignore a lot of other Scripture, to make infants into sinners imo
where there is no law, there is no sin, right

Wrong. Where there is no law then a person is not charged with the "crime" of sin. However, all have sinned. Romans 3:22b-23, "For there is no distinction, since all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" All humans are descended from Adam, therefore all humans have a sin nature from birth.