Is believing/faith a work ?

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amigo de christo

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I'd say not. Satan believes and...trembles?
Who we treat as GOD is OUR GOD . Who we treat as CHRIST is our christ .
IF one had truly beleived in CHRIST they would have done as did abraham who truly believed .
WHEN GOD , WHEN CHRIST , said DO they would have DONE .
Hearers only decieve themselves . JAMES had it right and so did paul .
THEY BOTH KNEW Only FAITH IN CHRIST WOULD save one
but they both knew IF OUR FAITH IS REAL WE OBEY . NO MAN can prove this otherwise .
WHO we obey IS WHOSE we are , WHO we obey is what and who we LOVE .
GOD changes a heart. ONLY FAITH IN CHRIST saves , but if our faith
is in another version , WONT END WELL on the DAY OF THE ONE TRUE CHRIST .
ITS so simple really . Nothing complicated here .
WHO WE LOVE IS PROOF of whose we are and who we obey IS WHO WE LOVE AND WHOSE WE ARE .
No man can say othewise and if they do they are a liar . JESUS SAID THIS TOO . AND WE KNOW HE DONT LIE .
the apostles later taught that , and we know those letters were not LIES . TIME TO CHOOSE .
TIME to choose o world and churches . I SAY that with upmost urgency too as i desire none to perish .
But if folks are following satans flesh served version of Christ they aint GONNNA MAKE IT . Let us OPEN BIBLES
and love all things our GOD and LORD and later the apostels would write . learn it well . AND LIFTTHOSE HANDS UP SISTER .
ITS LORD PRAISING and thanking time .
I believe in a NO COMPROMISE POLICY . FOr if one gives the devil even one inch on compromise
HE has become the RULER .
 

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Nevertheless its works.
Discernment brother.

By definition, "works" is external and not a basis of salvation so no man may brag.

Of course, it takes humiliation or the work of humbling oneself to recognize the need for a savior. Generally, a drowning man does not credit himself with grabbing hold of the rope, which was used - by others - to pull him to safety.
 

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Discernment brother.

By definition, "works" is external and not a basis of salvation so no man may brag.

Of course, it takes humiliation or the work of humbling oneself to recognize the need for a savior. Generally, a drowning man does not credit himself with grabbing hold of the rope, which was used - by others - to pull him to safety.
Its still works. You cant escape it !
 

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my faith trusts, another's distrusts. It is the object of my faith that matters.....I believe that :) :)
The object of ones faith IS what matters .
But what if the object of ones faith is in another jesus ..............
I tell us all they wont make it nor like what they hear on the DAY of the LORD .
We better make sure its the BIBLICAL JESUS we be a loving and following for far too many are preaching
another jesus that seems to wave rainbow flags and seems to support everyones religion and path to GOD .
Got bad news , THAT AINT JESUS , its the devil using the name of JESUS and we better not follow That ol serpent .
 
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my faith trusts, another's distrusts. It is the object of my faith that matters.....I believe that :) :)
This aint JESUS at all . we better know our bibles well my friends . This aint love and its not OF GOD .
The devil knows how to appear as an angel of light and he knows how to decieve and so do his ministirs .
 

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I'd say not. Satan believes and...trembles?
James says there are different kinds of faith,
1)James 2:17;24 Faith alone being dead.
2 )James 2:21 Faith with works being being justified.

Nowhere does James ever define faith alone as being anything but dead.
To be saved by faith only is to be saved by a dead faith.
James 2:20,
-But do you want to know O foolish man, that faith without works is dead?
 
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Everything done in the fleshly body is some kind of work whether it's mental with the brain or physical. People get hung up on "works" and erroneously claim things such as those mentioned, as well as baptism, is a "work", and therefore wrong. That's total nonsense. God has left his work on earth to mankind to do and mankind is flesh. We preach, teach, baptise, because we are commanded or required to do so. And yes, they are done by use of our fleshly bodies.
 
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The object of ones faith IS what matters .
But what if the object of ones faith is in another jesus ..............
I tell us all they wont make it nor like what they hear on the DAY of the LORD .
We better make sure its the BIBLICAL JESUS we be a loving and following for far too many are preaching
another jesus that seems to wave rainbow flags and seems to support everyones religion and path to GOD .
Got bad news , THAT AINT JESUS , its the devil using the name of JESUS and we better not follow That ol serpent .
What is it about us as people that we need to tell them that we are right and they are wrong; that we have a better perspective than they do; that whatever we pronounce is akin to God's pronouncement?

Is it our own insecurity which we need to bolster by 'threatening' others? Ohhh no, we're just warning them we say......yeah sure! I'd say it's our own religious deception being ameliorated.......If we cared for them we'd give them good news, we'd step into their shoes and give them real food!
 
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What is it about us as people that we need to tell them that we are right and they are wrong; that we have a better perspective than they do; that whatever we pronounce is akin to God's pronouncement?

Is it our own insecurity which we need to bolster by 'threatening' others? Ohhh no, we're just warning them we say......yeah sure! I'd say it's our own religious deception being ameliorated.......If we cared for them we'd give them good news, we'd step into their shoes and give them real food!
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you guys know smoke and mirrors was invented by the Bible eh

these posts arent really in the right order, but ive been up for three days
sorry
 

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James says there are different kinds of faith,
1)James 2:17;24 Faith alone being dead.
2 )James 2:21 Faith with works being being justified.

Nowhere does James ever define faith alone as being anything but dead.
To be saved by faith only is to be saved by a dead faith.
James 2:20,
-But do you want to know O foolish man, that faith without works is dead?
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