Seeing into the Spirit realm.

[Hippie]

There has been two times I have ever heard of the aura. First time I heard it, the person said they saw it around me. What religion or church he went to I have no idea. But I never saw one or heard of one till then. I do also know that these demons come in every shape and form. That is why we need to read and learn Gods Word. We live by it and we are able to fight the good fight to over power these demons in disguise.

 

[Carl Emerson]

That is correct. This so called subject about these gifts has been going on for years uncounted. I have to disagree with the perfect Jesus has not yet come. Jesus was perfect when he lived his life on earth. He was perfect as he went to the cross and died for the world. He was perfect as he rose from the dead. He was perfect as he went back home to the Father. He is still perfect today and will be perfect till the end of time. Correct God is not dead and never will be. God is perfect and so is his Son. If Jesus wasn't perfect he would not have been able to go back home to the Father in heaven. Because of Jesus being perfect, All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to him. All we need is Gods Word to live by. The bible is our Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth. I Corinthians 13:13 And now these three remain: faith, hope and love and the greatest of these is love.

Yes He has always been perfect.

Yes He has promised to come again.

Yes the evidence in signs of His Kingdom will cease when He returns.

 

[1stCenturyLady]

It’s the aura. I see them too, but it’s not a gift. Anyone can, just as you did.

I would take what your friend’s saying about there being demons with a grain of salt.

You can take it with a grain of salt, but I'm not that much of a skeptic nor scoffer. My pastor has seen them too.

 

[Space_Karen]

What if you had the ability to see spiritual things.

And did nothing with it. Would it be sinful?

What if you didn't know what to do with it.

 

[Hippie]

No it would not. It's not committing a sin. It would be your choice if you wanted to follow through with the spiritual thing. Just as if God showed you something and you didn't follow through. That isn't committing a sin. These spiritual things if it doesn't line up with what Gods Word teaches. You definitely shouldn't do it. That is why we need to know Gods Word. So we can be aware of what is before us. Keep in mind there are no more prophets or apostles. There were 12 apostles and John was the last one to live and he was the only one that died of a natural death. Prophets came along and spoke of things that were going to happen in the future. Gods Word is complete so there is nothing that anyone can predict for our future. You cannot add or take away from the bible. That is why we read and study Gods word so we know how to live our lives correctly. We will also be prepared to see if what is being said or done before us is the truth.

 

[Carl Emerson]

There were 12 apostles and John was the last one to live and he was the only one that died of a natural death.

Then why did the church fathers refer to the office of apostle long after John died ???

Including those who were taught by the apostles themselves?

 

[Hippie]

They were called church fathers which started long after the apostles died. They were not apostles. They followed the teachings and footsteps of the apostles. That did not make them apostles. After the apostles died. All the writings were already in the bible. The things the church fathers wrote did not enter the bible. The bible was already written with all that God wanted. The bible being completed you can not add or take anything from it. That is not what I say that is what the bible says. Revelations 20: 18-19. The Holy Spirit inspired the apostles what needed to be written. We should know that God has the power to what he wanted in His Word Of Truth.

 

[L.A.M.B.]

Let your LIGHT so shine before men that they may see ( your good works ) of God and glorify him!

IT is not of us but of God ,it is God in his Son among us and his Spirit that seals and blessed us with HIS mysteries the world cannot receive.

We KNOW very little of the mind of God except what he has revealed in his word.

God continues as he has always been & continues to be. It is the UNBELIEF of some that they KNOW NOT the fullness of God!

Bc of our unbelief it shortens our blessings in seeing the miracles of healing, finance and spiritual growth blessings.

If one believes that God ceases to uphold his word in content, context, and right division then I refuse to call such a one, brother or sister.
Those that live by faith must be led of the Spirit and walk in the Spirit!

 

[GracefulWarrior]

On Sunday in Sunday School before church started, I heard that some (three people) could see a glow around the pastor as he was preaching. I asked God to give me that ability, and sure enough after the announcements and into his preaching, I saw it and it continued until he was done preaching. It was pure white and bright. Once it shot up from his head about a foot.

Maybe that is how discernment of spirits actually operates. I'm not sure. I have a friend who sees when someone has an attachment of something evil. It appears like a dark shadow around them. She has also seen the actual demon. They looked like some kind of monkey or small gargoyle. I want this gift too because of all the con-artists who claim they need my help that I've come across who I have befriended and they have robbed me. It would be good to stay clear of them by seeing what is attached to them - a deceiving spirit.

Does anyone else have this gift? Positive replies only please. No unbelieving scoffers - Psalms 1:1

Hi 1stCL and thanks for sharing!

Hubby and I have seen some of these "gargoyle-monkey" looking critters, especially IN Church! From my experiences, when the Lord reveals these images/faces to me I ask the Lord for discernment, and most often, it was to do with witchcraft...Every Christian's experiences varies, but these "visions" are real and they are out there, amongst us...

 

[-Phil]

You can take it with a grain of salt, but I'm not that much of a skeptic nor scoffer. My pastor has seen them too.

See for yourself, no?

 

[1stCenturyLady]

Hi 1stCL and thanks for sharing!

Hubby and I have seen some of these "gargoyle-monkey" looking critters, especially IN Church! From my experiences, when the Lord reveals these images/faces to me I ask the Lord for discernment, and most often, it was to do with witchcraft...Every Christian's experiences varies, but these "visions" are real and they are out there, amongst us...

Thank you for the info. Yes, the Bible warns us of doctrines of demons, so it would be natural for these creatures to be in those churches.

 

[Hippie]

Yes God doesn't want anything unclean in his church. We read and listen to what Gods Word says. We live by what it says so our light shines before others. Even after all we learn and love it doesn't even come close to what Gods thoughts and love is. We just keep our faith and love for God best we can. If a brother or sister is not going to believe, turning their back on God. You can still call them a brother or sister. From what they are doing wrong. They need to be confronted before the church. At that point they are falling brothers and sisters. If they refuse to listen then they need to be thrown out of the church. Sometimes it takes things like that to open their eyes and hopefully come back to God.

 

[Carl Emerson]

They were called church fathers which started long after the apostles died. They were not apostles. They followed the teachings and footsteps of the apostles. That did not make them apostles. After the apostles died. All the writings were already in the bible. The things the church fathers wrote did not enter the bible. The bible was already written with all that God wanted. The bible being completed you can not add or take anything from it. That is not what I say that is what the bible says. Revelations 20: 18-19. The Holy Spirit inspired the apostles what needed to be written. We should know that God has the power to what he wanted in His Word Of Truth.

St. Barnabas was born Joseph, and was an early Christian. Although not one of the original Twelve Apostles, Barnabas was referred to as an apostle by the early Christian Church (Acts 14:14.)

If you read from beginning of Acts 13 - Paul was accompanied by others referred to in Acts 14:4 as Apostles.

 

[Carl Emerson]

What I don't understand as Paul says why it is when you are gathered everyone hath a prophesy, a psalm and hath a tongue.

Can you explain what you mean by this please...

1 Cor 14:

26 What is the outcome then, brothers and sisters? When you assemble, each one has a psalm, has a teaching, has a revelation, has a tongue, has an interpretation. All things are to be done for edification.

 

[L.A.M.B.]

Can you explain what you mean by this please...

1 Cor 14:

26 What is the outcome then, brothers and sisters? When you assemble, each one has a psalm, has a teaching, has a revelation, has a tongue, has an interpretation. All things are to be done for edification.

The church @Corinth was Paul's BRAT church.

Corinth was a cosmopolitan of business and multiple forms of paganism. Some IN THE CHURCH WERE NOT WILLING TO COME OUT OF THE WORLD SURROUNDING THEM. They also had the Jewish population to contend with and the Mosaic laws.

They squabbled & fussed among themselves, let sexual immortality go unchecked; (the one who had his father's wife.)

They fancied themselves elitist, one was of Apollo, another of Paul ect.

Yet poor Paul tried to correct them by sending them not one letter but two.

He explained the relationship of God to man, those having faith in the Christ and how to live righteous in the Spirit to the edification of the body & to the glory of God.

These divisions in the gathering were such that IN THEIR OWN MINDS, each imagined themselves superior to each other.

When they gathered everyone was trying to be TOP DOG, with the message, the prophecies, psalms,revelations, tongues ect ect.
We see this very thing here and most organizations. Everybody has the TRUE word, all feel their enlightenment is the only one ect ect.

 

[amigo de christo]

The church @Corinth was Paul's BRAT church.

Corinth was a cosmopolitan of business and multiple forms of paganism. Some IN THE CHURCH WERE NOT WILLING TO COME OUT OF THE WORLD SURROUNDING THEM. They also had the Jewish population to contend with and the Mosaic laws.

They squabbled & fussed among themselves, let sexual immortality go unchecked; (the one who had his father's wife.)

They fancied themselves elitist, one was of Apollo, another of Paul ect.

Yet poor Paul tried to correct them by sending them not one letter but two.

He explained the relationship of God to man, those having faith in the Christ and how to live righteous in the Spirit to the edification of the body & to the glory of God.

These divisions in the gathering were such that IN THEIR OWN MINDS, each imagined themselves superior to each other.

When they gathered everyone was trying to be TOP DOG, with the message, the prophecies, psalms,revelations, tongues ect ect.
We see this very thing here and most organizations. Everybody has the TRUE word, all feel their enlightenment is the only one ect ect.

This sounds real familiar . And yet i say to us all , we have many churches today which are far worse
off than even corinith . For their leaders did not do as paul did . HE corrected , rebuked and seperated out
those in sin who refused to repent . Yet today they honor those who sin , homosexuality and other sins too .
And when one comes along like paul would have and tries to warn , WELL THEY BOOT THEM OUT calling them hater .
The leaven paul wrote about to that church . A little leaven will infect the whole lump , IS TRUE
and when churches stopped correcting and heeded rather this doctrine o false unity and overlooking errors of sin
for sake of fellowship , THEY TANKED BIG TIME . IF we think the church of the corinthians had problems
I invited us to GO look at many of our own churches who are within our own realm . Its getting real bad now dear sister .
Leaven has swollen places full now and worse it gets at a break neck speed , due to
they now attack anything or anyone who dares speak TRUTH and correction . THEY have no idea
they are following another spirit who has led them to an all out war AGAINST CHRIST and the lambs .
WE must do all now to remind folks about the pure and holy pattern given to us from Christ and the men in that bible .
Cause many are not gonna make it on this other BROAD ALL INCLUSIVE ROAD . We must do all now to POINT to CHRIST
and stay dug in that BIBLE and be hearers and doers of all they did teach .

 

[1stCenturyLady]

This sounds real familiar . And yet i say to us all , we have many churches today which are far worse
off than even corinith . For their leaders did not do as paul did . HE corrected , rebuked and seperated out
those in sin who refused to repent . Yet today they honor those who sin , homosexuality and other sins too .
And when one comes along like paul would have and tries to warn , WELL THEY BOOT THEM OUT calling them hater .
The leaven paul wrote about to that church . A little leaven will infect the whole lump , IS TRUE
and when churches stopped correcting and heeded rather this doctrine o false unity and overlooking errors of sin
for sake of fellowship , THEY TANKED BIG TIME . IF we think the church of the corinthians had problems
I invited us to GO look at many of our own churches who are within our own realm . Its getting real bad now dear sister .
Leaven has swollen places full now and worse it gets at a break neck speed , due to
they now attack anything or anyone who dares speak TRUTH and correction . THEY have no idea
they are following another spirit who has led them to an all out war AGAINST CHRIST and the lambs .
WE must do all now to remind folks about the pure and holy pattern given to us from Christ and the men in that bible .
Cause many are not gonna make it on this other BROAD ALL INCLUSIVE ROAD . We must do all now to POINT to CHRIST
and stay dug in that BIBLE and be hearers and doers of all they did teach .

amigo, I was going to say the same thing. Its a good thing I kept reading and saw your post before I posted.

This is where we are now:

2 Thes. 2:
3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first

Even the holiness Methodist denomination has fallen into accepting debauchery in the leadership! The Methodist church (Spirit-filled and gifted) I go to left the denomination and is now a community church. This is the church where I can see a white glow around the pastor's head and shoulders, but only as he preaches scripture. Some use the word aura, but I don't use that word as today it is associated with the occult on television, and in this church no demons are allowed! I can imagine they flee! I believe 'auras' are the devils counterfeits seen by psychic mediums. Some think it is common and everyone can see them. Well maybe in this era of the falling away the counterfeit is readily available as it may be for that person. But at our church there are only four of us who can see them. I couldn't until I asked God for His gift and believed He would, and He immediately answered. No counterfeits for this Christian!

 

[GTW27]

amigo, I was going to say the same thing. Its a good thing I kept reading and saw your post before I posted.

This is where we are now:

2 Thes. 2:
3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first

Even the holiness Methodist denomination has fallen into accepting debauchery in the leadership! The Methodist church (Spirit-filled and gifted) I go to left the denomination and is now a community church. This is the church where I can see a white glow around the pastor's head and shoulders, but only as he preaches scripture. Some use the word aura, but I don't use that word as today it is associated with the occult on television, and in this church no demons are allowed! I can imagine they flee! I believe 'auras' are the devils counterfeits seen by psychic mediums. Some think it is common and everyone can see them. Well maybe in this era of the falling away the counterfeit is readily available as it may be for that person. But at our church there are only four of us who can see them. I couldn't until I asked God for His gift and believed He would, and He immediately answered. No counterfeits for this Christian!

Blessings in Christ Jesus. Yes, there is a glowing while being in The Spirit. Yes, there is a peace that surpasses understanding, while being in The Spirit. Yes, there is a joy unspeakable while being in The Spirit. And yes, the words can flow like a river when in The Spirit. And finally yes the fruits of The Spirit are evident when walking in The Spirit. It does not take spiritual eyes to see and witness this. This is The Lord's doing as He always keeps His promises. To me this is The Lord(The Holy Spirit) stepping forward to do what we can not. But with Him(as One) are all things possible. We only need believe!

And no, seeing auras are not from The Lord.

 

[Carl Emerson]

The church @Corinth was Paul's BRAT church.

Corinth was a cosmopolitan of business and multiple forms of paganism. Some IN THE CHURCH WERE NOT WILLING TO COME OUT OF THE WORLD SURROUNDING THEM. They also had the Jewish population to contend with and the Mosaic laws.

They squabbled & fussed among themselves, let sexual immortality go unchecked; (the one who had his father's wife.)

They fancied themselves elitist, one was of Apollo, another of Paul ect.

Yet poor Paul tried to correct them by sending them not one letter but two.

He explained the relationship of God to man, those having faith in the Christ and how to live righteous in the Spirit to the edification of the body & to the glory of God.

These divisions in the gathering were such that IN THEIR OWN MINDS, each imagined themselves superior to each other.

When they gathered everyone was trying to be TOP DOG, with the message, the prophecies, psalms,revelations, tongues ect ect.
We see this very thing here and most organizations. Everybody has the TRUE word, all feel their enlightenment is the only one ect ect.

Thanks for your take on it Yes... we are talking about a mess, however when orderly each one is expected to bring something.

Yet the following context in verse 34 is that the woman are to be silent (as the Law says) although we know there were woman prophets.

This however clearly states women should not teach.

Right there there is a serious clash between scripture and modern ways.

It is not surprising then that women's voice is predominant in the modern liberal movement.

However I feel the woman has an important voice in the house meeting environment.

I think this is because the house meetings were not public but by invitation, whereas the church meetings were public.

 

[Carl Emerson]

What if you had the ability to see spiritual things.

And did nothing with it. Would it be sinful?

What if you didn't know what to do with it.

Anyone receiving a genuine gift of the Spirit of God should 'give it back' and ask for wisdom in it's use...