Why belief in a god is an unfalsifiable claim that serves no purpose

[Romanov2488]

No, Satan is the one who thinks he is God but is not. He has already stolen your soul, and once he takes your soul, he uses you to take the soul of others. So I say again, God rebuke you, Satan.

God is within us, but we are not God, His will is not your will and His mind is not your mind. We are children of God but we are not God. You are a drop of water in the ocean but you are not the ocean. Do you know how foolish it is to say you are all waters, yet you cannot cause a single drop to fall from the sky?

The wage of sin is death - what is sin? It is error. Your theological error will lead you to destroy yourself. You believe that God just goes and forgets himself - and why is that? Is God hiding from something? Perhaps God dreams he is a human because outside of this world, there is only nothing, a great void, and he is alone, forever, to wander the depths of his own consciousness in despair, unable to even suicide? Is that why God forgets himself? Is this why our world exists? If you believe in nothing higher, this is the curse you place on yourself, this will be your pit of hell.

Yet, somehow, goodness exists in the world. It illuminates all things, it reveals all beauty and truth. So where does this goodness come from? Is it from you, the hopeless wanderer alone in the dark? No, it comes from above. Through service to this good, your eternity gains meaning.


No. One who can see God in the world can see good in everything. The good times are a gift from God, the hard times are a lesson. Our friends are to be cherished and our enemies are to be prayed for. This is the kingdom of heaven.

Luke 17:21
Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you

What is trash is existence for the sake of existence. It is in the striving that we find meaning, in the self-perfection, and service to others. A life of self-control and love for others and contentment with whatever fate may bring, this is true bliss. Envying, strife, hatred, uncontrollable urges, these are the things that make life miserable. What comes after this life, none can say, but even if this life were all there were - a life of virtue is its own reward.


Jesus' teachings on prayer? Even Jesus, the Son of God, prayed to the Father. Even God serves God.

Matthew 6:9-13​

9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
11 Give us this day our daily bread.
12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

The highest ideal is to always be a servant to others. And we seek service to the Divine in order to become more like the Divine. It is in giving that we receive. We receive love from those we are kind to, we receive wisdom from having the humility to listen to others, we receive peace of mind from knowing that there is something greater. We cannot receieve any of these things from our own selves!

God and Satan are two sides of the same coin. The underdeveloped and split fundamentalist mind perverts the teachings of Jesus.

You are a Bible-thumping clown with your “I REBuKe yOu SAtAn.” The only reason you think existence is trash is because you have made a trash out of your existence. You lack self esteem so you guilt trip yourself and then project your weakness onto others.

The ocean is nothing without the drop of water and vice versa.

 

[Adam]

God and Satan are two sides of the same coin. The underdeveloped and split fundamentalist mind perverts the teachings of Jesus.

You are a Bible-thumping clown with your “I REBuKe yOu SAtAn.” The only reason you think existence is trash is because you have made a trash out of your existence. You lack self esteem so you guilt trip yourself and then project your weakness onto others.

The ocean is nothing without the drop of water and vice versa.

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Hypocrite that you are, you react with hatred at another person you claim to be yourself! So if you hate me then who is it you really hate? Do you understand now what sin is? Do you? Who is it you hate, Mr. Universe?

Even Satan has a purpose, do you understand what the Shadow is? By understanding the part of yourself that you would rather not be, that is how you master it. God and Satan are not equal. God is the master over Satan and always will be. Satan was defeated in Heaven, and by the grace of God you will see Satan defeated on Earth. This is a battle that can only be won by surrendering. As long as you struggle, you hurt only yourself.

 

[Romanov2488]

Hypocrite that you are, you react with hatred at another person you claim to be yourself! So if you hate me then who is it you really hate? Do you understand now what sin is? Do you? Who is it you hate, Mr. Universe?

Even Satan has a purpose, do you understand what the Shadow is? By understanding the part of yourself that you would rather not be, that is how you master it. God and Satan are not equal. God is the master over Satan and always will be. Satan was defeated in Heaven, and by the grace of God you will see Satan defeated on Earth. This is a battle that can only be won by surrendering. As long as you struggle, you hurt only yourself.

Can you imagine Hitler crying about how much he’s hated? And Christians are some of biggest hypocrites which is why Christianity is on its way out of modern society.

 

[Adam]

Can you imagine Hitler crying about how much he’s hated? And Christians are some of biggest hypocrites which is why Christianity is on its way out of modern society.

Can you imagine being a Christian, Mr. I-Am-The-Universe? It seems to me like your universe is pretty tiny if it doesn't involve other people. Is this the "Little You" you were referring to? The one you thought you were enlightened enough to have overcome while the ignorant Christians and their life of service to others had not?

 

[Adam]

This is what the Bible says about hypocritical Christians btw.

Matthew 21​

28 But what think ye? A certain man had two sons; and he came to the first, and said, Son, go work to day in my vineyard.
29 He answered and said, I will not: but afterward he repented, and went.
30 And he came to the second, and said likewise. And he answered and said, I go, sir: and went not.
31 Whether of them twain did the will of his father? They say unto him, The first. Jesus saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you.

So what is there to be mad about? They won't find the kingdom of God. People cause their own suffering. So if we are all one, then wish them well, so they will not suffer and therefore you do not suffer.

 

[Romanov2488]

This is what the Bible says about hypocritical Christians btw.

Matthew 21​

28 But what think ye? A certain man had two sons; and he came to the first, and said, Son, go work to day in my vineyard.
29 He answered and said, I will not: but afterward he repented, and went.
30 And he came to the second, and said likewise. And he answered and said, I go, sir: and went not.
31 Whether of them twain did the will of his father? They say unto him, The first. Jesus saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you.

So what is there to be mad about? They won't find the kingdom of God. People cause their own suffering. So if we are all one, then wish them well, so they will not suffer and therefore you do not suffer.

Just because we are all one, doesn’t mean that hate has to be tolerated.

Have you ever heard “religious extremism”? That’s most Christians in a nutshell. The more religious you are, the more underdeveloped you are. Education is linked to lower religiosity.

 

[Adam]

Just because we are all one, doesn’t mean that hate has to be tolerated.

Have you ever heard “religious extremism”? That’s most Christians in a nutshell. The more religious you are, the more underdeveloped you are. Education is linked to lower religiosity.

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You are wise in many ways, and you understand that everything is linked in the spirit; and you understand that we are all reflections of eachother. Even many religious people don't understand this, but this is the very heart of religion, and you too have a faithful soul even if you don't want to accept it as such. And you are right, we shouldn't have hatred. The root of so much strife is that we all believe in the same thing, but speak a different language, so to speak. You see Christianity as a source of hate and I see it as a source of love, but we both agree that hatred is evil.

Are you familiar with the concept of psychological projection? It is when your own repressed negative self-image is applied onto others. You see your own flaws in them, and you attack them, because what you really can't stand is that they are like you. So don't you see what has been the cause of all of mankind's wars all along? We have just been screwing with ourself for thousands of years. Just one soul, the soul of mankind, attacking itself for its own flaws since the dawn of time. The Christians call this sowing and reaping. Eastern faiths call this karma. You can call it the universe discovering itself. No matter what you call it, that is what it is. The spirit of both Satan and Christ are inside Mankind. Satan sees only the sins of others but thinks he is like God. Christ bears the sins of others as if they were his own, because he sees that you are him. The path to freedom for mankind is Christ-like benevolence.

I am sorry if I have shown disrespect with you in our discussions. I love you brother and I wish you blessings and good health and joy and loving companionship all your days, Amen.

 

[BreadOfLife]

You’re being hysterical and projecting your own manure. I have only been paraphrasing what both Catholics and Protestants say about one another. It is not my personal opinion, it is theirs. I have heard both sides and paraphrasing what they said.

Do yourself a favor and go ask any Protestant what they think is wrong with Catholicism and vice versa and you’re going to get the same responses that I have provided.

If you think that I am promoting one over another, you are dead wrong. Both the Catholics and the Protestants are fools because religion is a cancer overall.

You can also take your nonsense of a Bible and ram it down someone else’s throat. Your people call for the execution of gay people, enough said.

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Thank you for another idiotic and dishonest rant.

You make ALL sorts of moronic assertions about the Catholic Church – yet you fail to provide a SINGLE Catholic teaching that supports what you vomit out.
Like every other, would-be scholar I’ve debated who hates the idea of “religion” – it is ALWAYS based on an abject ignorance of what religion is.

Finally – YOUR stupid claim that “MY people” call for the execution of homosexuals or ANY other sexual aberration – show me where the Catholic Church supports this belief.
Put your money where your mouth is. Of course, you’ll have to remove your FOOT first . . .

 

[Adam]

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When I was younger, I did some bad things, but if I was wearing a cross, I would take it off first, so at least I wouldn't disgrace Christ by doing something bad while representing Him.

 

[BreadOfLife]

When I was younger, I did some bad things, but if I was wearing a cross, I would take it off first, so at least I wouldn't disgrace Christ by doing something bad while representing Him.

Hopefully, that's all in the past.

We ALL do hypocritical things when we sin - but God sees right through us . . .

 

[Gottservant]

If you could evidence that noone is changing their ways, when they believe in God, you would have a strong instance of evidence that "God" does not exist.

In my experience, there is no one who has come to faith, that has not changed in heart and become convicted of spirit.

Looking for evidence any other way, does not make sense - that would be my argument against the OP.

 

[Romanov2488]

Thank you for another idiotic and dishonest rant.

You make ALL sorts of moronic assertions about the Catholic Church – yet you fail to provide a SINGLE Catholic teaching that supports what you vomit out.
Like every other, would-be scholar I’ve debated who hates the idea of “religion” – it is ALWAYS based on an abject ignorance of what religion is.

Finally – YOUR stupid claim that “MY people” call for the execution of homosexuals or ANY other sexual aberration – show me where the Catholic Church supports this belief.
Put your money where your mouth is. Of course, you’ll have to remove your FOOT first . . .

Look how butthurt you are. Did a priest hug you too many times as a child?

This Catholic priest thinks all gays should be put to death

His hate speech could land him three years in prison...

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Vitus Huonder, the Catholic bishop of Chur, has apologised if anyone felt hurt when he quoted a Bible verse calling for homosexuals to be put to death, but he says he stands by his literal reading of the Bible. In his 50-minute address on marriage at a forum in Germany on August 2, Huonder...

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[Taken]

This is why science and religion are actually diametrically opposed.

Science and Gods Doctrine has been taught to Gods People from days of Ancient man.

 

[Taken]

Priests calling for a mans death is not based on Jesus’ calling them into the Priesthood.

Government authorities arresting a man for exercising his right to speak is utterly Corrupt.

correcting a wrong with a wrong....pffff

 

[Romanov2488]

Priests calling for a mans death is not based on Jesus’ calling them into the Priesthood.

Government authorities arresting a man for exercising his right to speak is utterly Corrupt.

correcting a wrong with a wrong....pffff

Right to speak doesn’t mean right to speak hate, though. Might as well say that Kanye was just exercising his free speech when he makes his antisemitic remarks. Hate speech is not free speech.

And if there was a Jesus, I would say that his teachings have been perverted by the fundamentalists. Jesus was a hippie liberal according to his teachings. These right wing conservative Christians back policies that Jesus never would.

 

[ScottA]

Right to speak doesn’t mean right to speak hate, though. Might as well say that Kanye was just exercising his free speech when he makes his antisemitic remarks. Hate speech is not free speech.

And if there was a Jesus, I would say that his teachings have been perverted by the fundamentalists. Jesus was a hippie liberal according to his teachings. These right wing conservative Christians back policies that Jesus never would.

You speak against hate speech and then spew it out also--that is called hypocrisy. A nice spin of all the buzzwords doesn't cover it up.

But you are wrong about Jesus. He's actually right of the right wingers, He's a king wielding the power of life and death...not peace, but a sword...not only a Lamb but a Lion, coming from a far country to destroy His enemies.

 

[Taken]

Right to speak doesn’t mean right to speak hate, though. Might as well say that Kanye was just exercising his free speech when he makes his antisemitic remarks. Hate speech is not free speech.

And if there was a Jesus, I would say that his teachings have been perverted by the fundamentalists. Jesus was a hippie liberal according to his teachings. These right wing conservative Christians back policies that Jesus never would.

Oh good grief...have you fallen for the “politically correct” nonsense that the government has the authority to abridge speech as if they have authority to dictate an individuals thoughts and feelings from being expressed?

Those who sit in Government Offices are Servants of the Public...and AS such Servants They sit in those seats to Protect the Peoples’ rights...NOT undermine them with corrupt nonsense.

 

[Wrangler]

Just because we are all one, doesn’t mean that hate has to be tolerated.

Have you ever heard “religious extremism”? That’s most Christians in a nutshell. The more religious you are, the more underdeveloped you are. Education is linked to lower religiosity.

I suspect you post such things for the shock value. Education was developed and carried out in Western Civilization by Christians.

We are not opposed to education but the biggest proponents in history of education.

Tolerance is not a Christian virtue. And I take the claim of religious extremist as a profound compliment - even though I know you did not mean to compliment me.

And what about that 30-day challenge, mister "I is a scientist who relies on evidence?"

 

[Taken]

And if there was a Jesus, I would say that his teachings have been perverted by the fundamentalists. Jesus was a hippie liberal according to his teachings. These right wing conservative Christians back policies that Jesus never would.

“If there was a Jesus” ?
“Jesus was...”

Sounds like the double-speak of someone who has been hood-winked into Spiritual delusion and Political delusion falling for Democrats repetitive Democracy Blather.

Remember the OATH thingy US Servants of Public Office Swear to Uphold...?

US Constitution, Article IV, Section 4:
The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion;

You should learn the Difference Between a Republican and Democracy Form of Government.
In short one is equal governance for all People, the other is majority mob rule, tough crap for everyone else.

 

[Dropship]

belief in a god is an unfalsifiable claim that serves no purpose​

Think in modern terms mate, and regard Jesus as an alien with superhuman powers like he said..-
"I am not of this world ....though you do not believe me, believe the miracles.....i'll tell you things hidden since the creation of the world" (John 8:23,John 10:38,Matt 13:35)
Hey Spock will you listen to Jesus?
"Affirmative, I'm all ears"