That's right, Foreigner - stick to your original statement, no matter what evidence is presented. I am sure the more you repeat it, the more it will magically come true - right? Talk about 'vain repetition' - LOL
-- Since no evidence was presented, why NOT stick with the original statement.
Each scripture that you linked to a specific sentence of the Hail Mary is Mary-Focused. Not Christ centered. Go read them again...
Taken right from the playbook of FOX. If you cannot twist your opponents words to make him look like a hypocrite; simply ignore all information he presents and repeat your original position! At least you are predictable.
-- Your third reference to FOX in two days. Yet I'M predictable lol.
It is more than humorous (and enjoyable) to see that an organization that doesn't know you exist can get so deeply implanted under your skin.
Bet that twitch in the corner of your eye is getting worse....
Thanks for reminding me why answering your posts with scripture is completely useless,
-- When the scripture you present doesn't support the position you put forth, then of course it is useless.
Again, every verse that you attached to every line of the Hail Mary is Mary-Focused, not Christ centered.
Go read them again.
Once again, you are not here to have a discussion between equals - only to assert your opinion at all costs.
-- Hmmmm.....and how exactly are you NOT doing that?
And you still have not addressed this:
Catholics say the Hail Mary 53 times in a standard 5-decade Rosary (compared to the Lord's prayer which is said only six times)....
This although Jesus Himself taught us that the Our Father was the correct way to pray, not the Hail Mary.
"This, then, is how you should pray: "'Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name," - Matt 6:9
So what you're still trying to sell is that "to focus on the Birth, Ministry, Death and Resurrection of Jesus" in a "very pleasing and meaningful way" ....it is better to pray the Hail Mary instead of praying the way Jesus actually taught us to.
The idea that the focus of the Rosary is Jesus is made even harder to buy when you realize this is one of the closing prayers of the Rosary:
"Hail Holy Queen, mother of mercy;
our life, out sweetness, and our hope. To
thee do we cry, poor banished children of
Eve. To thee do we send up our sighs,
mourning and weeping in this veil of tears.
Turn, then, most gracious advocate, thine
eyes of mercy towards us. And after this,
And after this, our exile, show us the blessed
fruit of thy womb, Jesus. O clement, o loving,
o sweet virgin Mary. Pray for us oh holy mother
of God, that we may be made worthy of the
promises of Christ. Amen. "
There are so many thing wrong with that prayer, not the least of which is, "Hail Holy Queen, mother of mercy; our life."
-- Since no evidence was presented, why NOT stick with the original statement.
Each scripture that you linked to a specific sentence of the Hail Mary is Mary-Focused. Not Christ centered. Go read them again...
Taken right from the playbook of FOX. If you cannot twist your opponents words to make him look like a hypocrite; simply ignore all information he presents and repeat your original position! At least you are predictable.
-- Your third reference to FOX in two days. Yet I'M predictable lol.
It is more than humorous (and enjoyable) to see that an organization that doesn't know you exist can get so deeply implanted under your skin.
Bet that twitch in the corner of your eye is getting worse....
Thanks for reminding me why answering your posts with scripture is completely useless,
-- When the scripture you present doesn't support the position you put forth, then of course it is useless.
Again, every verse that you attached to every line of the Hail Mary is Mary-Focused, not Christ centered.
Go read them again.
Once again, you are not here to have a discussion between equals - only to assert your opinion at all costs.
-- Hmmmm.....and how exactly are you NOT doing that?
And you still have not addressed this:
Catholics say the Hail Mary 53 times in a standard 5-decade Rosary (compared to the Lord's prayer which is said only six times)....
This although Jesus Himself taught us that the Our Father was the correct way to pray, not the Hail Mary.
"This, then, is how you should pray: "'Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name," - Matt 6:9
So what you're still trying to sell is that "to focus on the Birth, Ministry, Death and Resurrection of Jesus" in a "very pleasing and meaningful way" ....it is better to pray the Hail Mary instead of praying the way Jesus actually taught us to.
The idea that the focus of the Rosary is Jesus is made even harder to buy when you realize this is one of the closing prayers of the Rosary:
"Hail Holy Queen, mother of mercy;
our life, out sweetness, and our hope. To
thee do we cry, poor banished children of
Eve. To thee do we send up our sighs,
mourning and weeping in this veil of tears.
Turn, then, most gracious advocate, thine
eyes of mercy towards us. And after this,
And after this, our exile, show us the blessed
fruit of thy womb, Jesus. O clement, o loving,
o sweet virgin Mary. Pray for us oh holy mother
of God, that we may be made worthy of the
promises of Christ. Amen. "
There are so many thing wrong with that prayer, not the least of which is, "Hail Holy Queen, mother of mercy; our life."