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Here's a tidbit on the latter part of Revelation 12 for those brethren interested...

From this point forward, this Scripture is all about the very END of this world, specifically the "great tribulation" event caused by the devil being cast down to this earth with his angels...


Rev 12:7-17
7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8 And prevailed not;
neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

That part in red above is especially important to understand. It's because that shows Satan (that "dragon), that his place right now is in Heaven. But when this war with Archangel Michael happens in Heaven, then Satan's place will no longer be in Heaven. What does that mean then?

God's written Word reveals there are TWO separate dimensions of existence. There is this earthly dimension we live in here on earth. And then there is the Heavenly dimension where our Heavenly Father, His Son, and the angels dwell. It is in a dimension made up of Spirit, and not material matter like this earthly one. That MUST be understood to grasp the above event. It means Satan and his angels are coming... HERE... in OUR earthly dimension, de facto, literally upon this earth in PLAIN SIGHT. All peoples and nations will see him, and think he is God (2 Thessalonians 2).


10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, "Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God,
and the power of His Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
11 And
they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

Do you understand that above means for the END... of this world, and not for some time in past history for these events? Since when was the power of Christ's Salvation offered back in the old world when Satan first rebelled against God? Some false prophets actually teach that, saying these events already happened back when Satan first rebelled. Not true. These events are for the last days leading up to Christ's future coming.

Did you notice that event in verse 11 above about those who overcome by "the blood of the Lamb" (Jesus Christ), and they gave a Testimony, and loved not their lives unto death? What is the 5th Seal of Revelation 6 about? It is about the souls under the altar in Heaven asking God how long until His revenge is poured upon the earth. God tells them to yet wait a little season, until their fellowservants are killed as they were. That is pointing to the coming time "great tribulation", not past history.


12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time."


What "short time"? The shortened time for the "great tribulation". Lord Jesus gave it to His faithful who keep HIS Word. Do you know it? It is written in His Revelation. Satan, that dragon, well knows he has but a short time to work his deception upon the earth for the end.

13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.


Rev.12:6 already mentioned a previous 1260 days period prior to the dragon being cast down to this earth. Here is the latter half of the Daniel 9:27 symbolic "one week" which represents 7 years. The 1260 day periods equal 7 years.

So when Satan and his angels are cast out of the Heavenly down to this earth, literally, he will persecute the symbolic 'woman' which will represent Christ's Church at that time for the end. The majority of Jews will still be unbelief, and follow the dragon as the false-Messiah, so this symbolic 'woman' cannot mean them. This 'woman' represents those in Christ the devil will be against because they will know who this false-Messiah actually is, i.e., the devil himself. Thus this 'woman' here represents Christ's ELECT who cannot be deceived at the end. Are you in this group, ready to serve Lord Jesus at the end, by making a 'stand' in the "evil day" for Him? Jesus said some of us would be delivered up to give a Testimony for Him, and to speak whatever The Holy Spirit gives us to say in that 'hour'.

15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.


Did you notice how Christ used the symbols here back and forth of the 'dragon' and 'serpent'? Both are about the devil himself, Satan. Did Lord Jesus do that to get our attention on these events? I think so.

The symbolic analogy of the LIES that will come out of the devil-false-Messiah's mouth being like a flood of waters is actually an analogy first given back in the Old Testament prophets. Isaiah was given to speak of these 'waters as a flood' in regard to "the Assyrian", the historical king of Assyria that came upon Israel. The kings of Assyria actually removed the ten northern tribes of Israel from the land. God in some places in Isaiah uses this title "the Assyrian" as symbolic for Satan himself.

What this means is that Christ is pointing us back to historical events in the Book of Isaiah dealing with the Assyrian, and using that as a blueprint for the end time events by this "serpent" coming to persecute Christ's elect for the end.


16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.


The LIES out of Satan's mouth, for that is where we are shown those waters as a flood come from, does that affect Christ's elect. That's what this symbology about the woman being protected with Satan's flood of lies being swallowed up by the earth represents.

17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
KJV


And thusly, Satan will be very angry that he will not be able to deceive Christ's elect. So he will go to make war with Christ's elect towards the end of the "great tribulation". That's who we are being shown this 'woman' is during these events since Rev.12:7. It's about the end time saints that have the Testimony of Jesus Christ.

Mark 13:9-11
9 But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for My sake,
for a testimony against them.
10 And the gospel must first be published among all nations.
11 But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost.
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Here's a tidbit on the latter part of Revelation 12 for those brethren interested...

From this point forward, this Scripture is all about the very END of this world, specifically the "great tribulation" event caused by the devil being cast down to this earth with his angels...


Rev 12:7-17
7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8 And prevailed not;
neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

That part in red above is especially important to understand. It's because that shows Satan (that "dragon), that his place right now is in Heaven. But when this war with Archangel Michael happens in Heaven, then Satan's place will no longer be in Heaven. What does that mean then?

This war in heaven has already happened. It happened with the birth of the man child, who is Jesus Christ come to this world a human. Beginning with verse 7 proves an agenda. We cannot understand the timing of the war in heaven that took place when Christ was born without quoting the passage in context. To post out of context is an attempt to prove our doctrine and is not interested in truth.

Revelation 12:1-11 (KJV) And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered. And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born. And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne. And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days. And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

This shows us that Satan was cast out of heaven to the earth with great wrath to persecute the woman and her seed when Christ was born. And in this time written, a thousand two hundred threescore days, this time declared to be when salvation and the Kingdom of God and power of His Christ, when the woman is nourished and protected in a place prepared for her by God, as the Kingdom of God is being built through the power of Christ.
 
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Here's a tidbit on the latter part of Revelation 12 for those brethren interested...

From this point forward, this Scripture is all about the very END of this world, specifically the "great tribulation" event caused by the devil being cast down to this earth with his angels...


Rev 12:7-17
7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8 And prevailed not;
neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

That part in red above is especially important to understand. It's because that shows Satan (that "dragon), that his place right now is in Heaven. But when this war with Archangel Michael happens in Heaven, then Satan's place will no longer be in Heaven. What does that mean then?

God's written Word reveals there are TWO separate dimensions of existence. There is this earthly dimension we live in here on earth. And then there is the Heavenly dimension where our Heavenly Father, His Son, and the angels dwell. It is in a dimension made up of Spirit, and not material matter like this earthly one. That MUST be understood to grasp the above event. It means Satan and his angels are coming... HERE... in OUR earthly dimension, de facto, literally upon this earth in PLAIN SIGHT. All peoples and nations will see him, and think he is God (2 Thessalonians 2).


10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, "Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
11 And
they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

Do you understand that above means for the END... of this world, and not for some time in past history for these events? Since when was the power of Christ's Salvation offered back in the old world when Satan first rebelled against God? Some false prophets actually teach that, saying these events already happened back when Satan first rebelled. Not true. These events are for the last days leading up to Christ's future coming.

Did you notice that event in verse 11 above about those who overcome by "the blood of the Lamb" (Jesus Christ), and they gave a Testimony, and loved not their lives unto death? What is the 5th Seal of Revelation 6 about? It is about the souls under the altar in Heaven asking God how long until His revenge is poured upon the earth. God tells them to yet wait a little season, until their fellowservants are killed as they were. That is pointing to the coming time "great tribulation", not past history.


12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time."

What "short time"? The shortened time for the "great tribulation". Lord Jesus gave it to His faithful who keep HIS Word. Do you know it? It is written in His Revelation. Satan, that dragon, well knows he has but a short time to work his deception upon the earth for the end.

13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.


Rev.12:6 already mentioned a previous 1260 days period prior to the dragon being cast down to this earth. Here is the latter half of the Daniel 9:27 symbolic "one week" which represents 7 years. The 1260 day periods equal 7 years.

So when Satan and his angels are cast out of the Heavenly down to this earth, literally, he will persecute the symbolic 'woman' which will represent Christ's Church at that time for the end. The majority of Jews will still be unbelief, and follow the dragon as the false-Messiah, so this symbolic 'woman' cannot mean them. This 'woman' represents those in Christ the devil will be against because they will know who this false-Messiah actually is, i.e., the devil himself. Thus this 'woman' here represents Christ's ELECT who cannot be deceived at the end. Are you in this group, ready to serve Lord Jesus at the end, by making a 'stand' in the "evil day" for Him? Jesus said some of us would be delivered up to give a Testimony for Him, and to speak whatever The Holy Spirit gives us to say in that 'hour'.

15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.

Did you notice how Christ used the symbols here back and forth of the 'dragon' and 'serpent'? Both are about the devil himself, Satan. Did Lord Jesus do that to get our attention on these events? I think so.

The symbolic analogy of the LIES that will come out of the devil-false-Messiah's mouth being like a flood of waters is actually an analogy first given back in the Old Testament prophets. Isaiah was given to speak of these 'waters as a flood' in regard to "the Assyrian", the historical king of Assyria that came upon Israel. The kings of Assyria actually removed the ten northern tribes of Israel from the land. God in some places in Isaiah uses this title "the Assyrian" as symbolic for Satan himself.

What this means is that Christ is pointing us back to historical events in the Book of Isaiah dealing with the Assyrian, and using that as a blueprint for the end time events by this "serpent" coming to persecute Christ's elect for the end.


16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.

The LIES out of Satan's mouth, for that is where we are shown those waters as a flood come from, does that affect Christ's elect. That's what this symbology about the woman being protected with Satan's flood of lies being swallowed up by the earth represents.

17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
KJV


And thusly, Satan will be very angry that he will not be able to deceive Christ's elect. So he will go to make war with Christ's elect towards the end of the "great tribulation". That's who we are being shown this 'woman' is during these events since Rev.12:7. It's about the end time saints that have the Testimony of Jesus Christ.

Mark 13:9-11
9 But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for My sake,
for a testimony against them.
10 And the gospel must first be published among all nations.
11 But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost.
KJV
To myself this is a re-cap of Satan's fall in Rev. 12. when he tried to over-throw God.

It started in the garden of Eden, after God created man in Genesis.

Satan was soooooo happy to see man after he was cast to the earth which was void and in darkness. Those following him among the angels were cast out of heaven reserved in chains until their judgment.

He has NOT stopped his persecution of all that is God's

Lol lol lol lol.
What a fool he is. God has shown us all the end of his story.
 
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That part in red above is especially important to understand. It's because that shows Satan (that "dragon), that his place right now is in Heaven.
Your claim that Satan is in heaven is 100% "False"!

The scripture below does nothing more than show the "Historical Account" of Satan being cast out of heaven and being upon this earth to kill the infant Jesus, this was fulfilled through King Herod seeking out the infant Jesus to kill him

The "Historical Account" continues with Jesus Christ after his ascension being seated at the right hand of the father where he is presently

Satan was upon this earth going to and fro in Jobs temptation

Satan was upon this earth to tempt the Lord for 40 days/nights in the wilderness, just a few examples showing your claim is "False"


Revelation 12:3-5KJV
3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
 

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To myself this is a re-cap of Satan's fall in Rev. 12. when he tried to over-throw God.

It started in the garden of Eden, after God created man in Genesis.

Satan was soooooo happy to see man after he was cast to the earth which was void and in darkness. Those following him among the angels were cast out of heaven reserved in chains until their judgment.

He has NOT stopped his persecution of all that is God's

Lol lol lol lol.
What a fool he is. God has shown us all the end of his story.
I agree 100%, Revelation 12:3-5 is nothing more than a recap of a historical event that had already taken place

To claim Satan is in heaven presently as Jesus sits victorious at the right hand of the father is "Laughable"!
 

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And in this time written, a thousand two hundred threescore days, this time declared to be when salvation and the Kingdom of God and power of His Christ, when the woman is nourished and protected in a place prepared for her by God, as the Kingdom of God is being built through the power of Christ.
Revelation 12:6 Is A Future Event Unfulfilled, Taking Place During A Future Great Tribulation That's Unfulfilled, Your Claim This Represents God's Kingdom Being Built Through Jesus Christ Is Error

The woman in Revelation 12:6 represents the "Remnant Church" seen in Roman's chapter 11, they will be in Israel's wilderness during the 1260 day tribulation, as Jerusalem is in desolation

You will closely note Micah 7:13-18 is a detailed description of Revelation 12:6, the Remnant will be in the wilderness of Carmel, Bashan, and Gilead, they will be fed "Manna" from heaven as in the days of coming out of Egypt, the world will watch in "Fear" of the Lord's power

Revelation 12:6KJV
6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

Micah 7:13-18KJV
13 Notwithstanding the land shall be desolate because of them that dwell therein, for the fruit of their doings.
14 Feed thy people with thy rod, the flock of thine heritage, which dwell solitarily in the wood, in the midst of Carmel: let them feed in Bashan and Gilead, as in the days of old.

15 According to the days of thy coming out of the land of Egypt will I shew unto him marvellous things.
16 The nations shall see and be confounded at all their might: they shall lay their hand upon their mouth, their ears shall be deaf.
17 They shall lick the dust like a serpent, they shall move out of their holes like worms of the earth: they shall be afraid of the Lord our God, and shall fear because of thee.
18 Who is a God like unto thee, that pardoneth iniquity, and passeth by the transgression of the remnant of his heritage? he retaineth not his anger for ever, because he delighteth in mercy.
 

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To myself this is a re-cap of Satan's fall in Rev. 12. when he tried to over-throw God.
Then you are not reading all of the Revelation 12:7-17 Scripture, because Jesus Christ had not yet been born through woman's womb and died on the cross back when Satan first rebelled in coveting God's Throne in that old world.

The Rev.12:7-17 verses together reveal the timing, and it is for the LAST DAYS.
 

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Then you are not reading all of the Revelation 12:7-17 Scripture, because Jesus Christ had not yet been born through woman's womb and died on the cross back when Satan first rebelled in coveting God's Throne in that old world.

The Rev.12:7-17 verses together reveal the timing, and it is for the LAST DAYS.

Lol.
What ever you want to think or say can suit you........
I stand by, on and with my post and assertions.

Really not gonna make my hair RED bc of this simple difference in opinions....mine & yours.
 

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Ecc.1:9; 7-10.
...........................no new thing under the sun.
John 8:58 ; 56-59.
.................Before Abraham was, I am!
 

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Lol.
What ever you want to think or say can suit you........
I stand by, on and with my post and assertions.

Really not gonna make my hair RED bc of this simple difference in opinions....mine & yours.
Your view is in error. Your view even shows you don't know the events of the Seals of Rev.6, which is pointed to within those Rev.12:7-17 verses. And even with Rev.12:17 about those who keep God's commandments and HAVE THE TESTIMONY OF JESUS CHRIST? and you think all that was about the time of Satan's original fall back in the old world? NUTS!
 
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Your view is in error. Your view even shows you don't know the events of the Seals of Rev.6, which is pointed to within those Rev.12:7-17 verses. And even with Rev.12:17 about those who keep God's commandments and HAVE THE TESTIMONY OF JESUS CHRIST? and you think all that was about the time of Satan's original fall back in the old world? NUTS!
Thank you for your kind, loving words. You sparkle with Christ Jesus' love.........NOT!
 

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Then you are not reading all of the Revelation 12:7-17 Scripture, because Jesus Christ had not yet been born through woman's womb and died on the cross back when Satan first rebelled in coveting God's Throne in that old world.

The Rev.12:7-17 verses together reveal the timing, and it is for the LAST DAYS.
No response to post #4 your claims are false, as you run from biblical truth!
 

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Then you are not reading all of the Revelation 12:7-17 Scripture, because Jesus Christ had not yet been born through woman's womb and died on the cross back when Satan first rebelled in coveting God's Throne in that old world.

The Rev.12:7-17 verses together reveal the timing, and it is for the LAST DAYS.
Your claim is a fairy tale, as you have no response to post #4
 

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Revelation 12:6 Is A Future Event Unfulfilled, Taking Place During A Future Great Tribulation That's Unfulfilled, Your Claim This Represents God's Kingdom Being Built Through Jesus Christ Is Error

The woman in Revelation 12:6 represents the "Remnant Church" seen in Roman's chapter 11, they will be in Israel's wilderness during the 1260 day tribulation, as Jerusalem is in desolation

John defines who the woman is, depicting her as fulfillment of Joseph's dream. In the dream, Joseph, as a foreshadow of Christ, would be ruler over his people Israel. Joseph's dream foreshadowed the coming of Christ. Joseph as a depiction of Christ would rule over his father, the sun, mother, the moon and the eleven stars as his brothers. Joseph's dream, foreshadowing the birth of Christ came true, and Joseph did rule over his own family from whom the nation came, and from whom Christ was born.

Genesis 37:9-10 (KJV) And he dreamed yet another dream, and told it his brethren, and said, Behold, I have dreamed a dream more; and, behold, the sun and the moon and the eleven stars made obeisance to me. And he told it to his father, and to his brethren: and his father rebuked him, and said unto him, What is this dream that thou hast dreamed? Shall I and thy mother and thy brethren indeed come to bow down ourselves to thee to the earth?

But in the fulfillment of the dream, John's vision depicts the birth of Christ from the nation, who would be ruler over all the nations of the earth. Israel of Old is the woman from whom the Christ child was born, a depiction of the Church in the wilderness. (Acts 7:38)

Revelation 12:1 (KJV) And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

Revelation 12:5 (KJV)
And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.

After failing to destroy the Christ-child at birth, the war in heaven between Satan and his angels and Michael and his angels took place. Satan with his angels was cast out of heaven to the earth, and having great wrath pursued the Church as She began Her mission of taking the Gospel of Christ unto all nations. By casting Satan and his angels out of heaven, the spiritual Kingdom of God in heaven would be built as the message of Christ went unto all the world, and people from every nation of earth would hear, believe and have life eternally through the Spirit of Christ in them. That's why John heard a loud voice from heaven saying, "Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night."

Revelation 12:14 (KJV) And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

While heaven rejoices, it is woe to the earth and sea for Satan has been cast down with great wrath, and immediately begins his persecution against the woman (Church) who gave birth to the Christ-child. We see the truth of this great persecution from the beginning of the New Covenant Church on earth. It is the reason for the Church growth throughout the world, as She was scattered abroad, fleeing from the great persecution (tribulation) She was ordained to endure. But the Church shall endure for while in this wilderness God nourishes and protects her throughout time, and times and half a time, from Satan. Whenever and wherever the Church needs God's protection it has always come, so the persecution shall never be able to utterly destroy the Church on earth, She will endure forever by the mighty hand of God.

Christ gives us assurance that His Church (the spiritual Kingdom of God in heaven) will be built, and though Satan tries to prevent it, not even the gates of hell will be able to. (Mt. 16:18) We see the truth of this "great tribulation" Christ warned His disciples would come as the Gospel is proclaimed at the very beginning of the universal Church on earth. It began with a Pharisee named Saul, (who would become Paul the Apostle of Christ to the Gentiles) consenting to the death of Stephen, then the Church being scattered abroad first throughout the neighboring regions, and then throughout the world.

Acts 8:1-4 (KJV) And Saul was consenting unto his death. And at that time there was a great persecution against the church which was at Jerusalem; and they were all scattered abroad throughout the regions of Judaea and Samaria, except the apostles. And devout men carried Stephen to his burial, and made great lamentation over him. As for Saul, he made havock of the church, entering into every house, and haling men and women committed them to prison. Therefore they that were scattered abroad went every where preaching the word.

You will closely note Micah 7:13-18 is a detailed description of Revelation 12:6, the Remnant will be in the wilderness of Carmel, Bashan, and Gilead, they will be fed "Manna" from heaven as in the days of coming out of Egypt, the world will watch in "Fear" of the Lord's power

Micah's prophetic words look for the coming day of the Lord. His prophetic words began to come to pass when the Christ-child was born to pardon the iniquities and pass by the transgressions of the remnant from old, of whom the prophet Micah was no doubt one. God's mercy to the faithful remnant from old would be eternally saved through the Christ-child, the mercy God promised would come to the faithful remnant of old who are of the Seed (Christ) of Abraham, through Jacob.

Micah 7:18-20 (KJV) Who is a God like unto thee, that pardoneth iniquity, and passeth by the transgression of the remnant of his heritage? he retaineth not his anger for ever, because he delighteth in mercy. He will turn again, he will have compassion upon us; he will subdue our iniquities; and thou wilt cast all their sins into the depths of the sea. Thou wilt perform the truth to Jacob, and the mercy to Abraham, which thou hast sworn unto our fathers from the days of old.

Romans 9:27-28 (KJV)
Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved: For he will finish the work, and cut it short in righteousness: because a short work will the Lord make upon the earth.
 
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John defines who the woman is, depicting her as fulfillment of Joseph's dream. In the dream, Joseph, as a foreshadow of Christ, would be ruler over his people Israel. Joseph's dream foreshadowed the coming of Christ. Joseph as a depiction of Christ would rule over his father, the sun, mother, the moon and the eleven stars as his brothers. Joseph's dream, foreshadowing the birth of Christ came true, and Joseph did rule over his own family from whom the nation came, and from whom Christ was born.

Genesis 37:9-10 (KJV) And he dreamed yet another dream, and told it his brethren, and said, Behold, I have dreamed a dream more; and, behold, the sun and the moon and the eleven stars made obeisance to me. And he told it to his father, and to his brethren: and his father rebuked him, and said unto him, What is this dream that thou hast dreamed? Shall I and thy mother and thy brethren indeed come to bow down ourselves to thee to the earth?

But in the fulfillment of the dream, John's vision depicts the birth of Christ from the nation, who would be ruler over all the nations of the earth. Israel of Old is the woman from whom the Christ child was born, a depiction of the Church in the wilderness. (Acts 7:38)

Revelation 12:1 (KJV) And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

Revelation 12:5 (KJV)
And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.

After failing to destroy the Christ-child at birth, the war in heaven between Satan and his angels and Michael and his angels took place. Satan with his angels was cast out of heaven to the earth, and having great wrath pursued the Church as She began Her mission of taking the Gospel of Christ unto all nations. By casting Satan and his angels out of heaven, the spiritual Kingdom of God in heaven would be built as the message of Christ went unto all the world, and people from every nation of earth would hear, believe and have life eternally through the Spirit of Christ in them. That's why John heard a loud voice from heaven saying, "Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night."

Revelation 12:14 (KJV) And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

While heaven rejoices, it is woe to the earth and sea for Satan has been cast down with great wrath, and immediately begins his persecution against the woman (Church) who gave birth to the Christ-child. We see the truth of this great persecution from the beginning of the New Covenant Church on earth. It is the reason for the Church growth throughout the world, as She was scattered abroad, fleeing from the great persecution (tribulation) She was ordained to endure. But the Church shall endure for while in this wilderness God nourishes and protects her throughout time, and times and half a time, from Satan. Whenever and wherever the Church needs God's protection it has always come, so the persecution shall never be able to utterly destroy the Church on earth, She will endure forever by the mighty hand of God.

Christ gives us assurance that His Church (the spiritual Kingdom of God in heaven) will be built, and though Satan tries to prevent it, not even the gates of hell will be able to. (Mt. 16:18) We see the truth of this "great tribulation" Christ warned His disciples would come as the Gospel is proclaimed at the very beginning of the universal Church on earth. It began with a Pharisee named Saul, (who would become Paul the Apostle of Christ to the Gentiles) consenting to the death of Stephen, then the Church being scattered abroad first throughout the neighboring regions, and then throughout the world.

Acts 8:1-4 (KJV) And Saul was consenting unto his death. And at that time there was a great persecution against the church which was at Jerusalem; and they were all scattered abroad throughout the regions of Judaea and Samaria, except the apostles. And devout men carried Stephen to his burial, and made great lamentation over him. As for Saul, he made havock of the church, entering into every house, and haling men and women committed them to prison. Therefore they that were scattered abroad went every where preaching the word.



Micah's prophetic words look for the coming day of the Lord. His prophetic words began to come to pass when the Christ-child was born to pardon the iniquities and pass by the transgressions of the remnant from old, of whom the prophet Micah was no doubt one. God's mercy to the faithful remnant from old would be eternally saved through the Christ-child, the mercy God promised would come to the faithful remnant of old who are of the Seed (Christ) of Abraham, through Jacob.

Micah 7:18-20 (KJV) Who is a God like unto thee, that pardoneth iniquity, and passeth by the transgression of the remnant of his heritage? he retaineth not his anger for ever, because he delighteth in mercy. He will turn again, he will have compassion upon us; he will subdue our iniquities; and thou wilt cast all their sins into the depths of the sea. Thou wilt perform the truth to Jacob, and the mercy to Abraham, which thou hast sworn unto our fathers from the days of old.

Romans 9:27-28 (KJV)
Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved: For he will finish the work, and cut it short in righteousness: because a short work will the Lord make upon the earth.
Fantastic post thanks RWB
 
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After failing to destroy the Christ-child at birth, the war in heaven between Satan and his angels and Michael and his angels took place. Satan with his angels was cast out of heaven to the earth
Satan was cast out of heaven long before the birth of Jesus Christ

Satan was upon this earth during Jobs temptation seen below, your claims are "False"

Job 1:7KJV
7 And the Lord said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the Lord, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
 
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Satan was cast out of heaven long before the birth of Jesus Christ

Satan was upon this earth during Jobs temptation seen below, your claims are "False"

Job 1:7KJV
7 And the Lord said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the Lord, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.

Yes, as written in Job, Satan had access to both heaven and earth before the birth of Christ, when he and his angels were forever cast out of heaven by Michael and his angels. It's Satan's access to heaven that ended when he was cast down to the earth.
 
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Yes, as written in Job, Satan had access to both heaven and earth before the birth of Christ, when he and his angels were forever cast out of heaven by Michael and his angels. It's Satan's access to heaven that ended when he was cast down to the earth.
Then that would have meant the 5th Trumpet sounded back in the OT. That is when the angels were loosed from the pit.

According to Jude, the angels are still locked up waiting for the day of judgment, the 5th Trumpet.

According to John is Revelation, the angels were loosed from the pit during the 5th Trumpet woe. They were cast out of heaven at the 7th Trumpet woe.

Do you not think that after tormenting humans, they would have not looked toward heaven, and ascended to heaven during the 6th Trumpet? Were they loose throughout the whole OT and then bound, and will be loosed again? Or were they bound since Adam and still bound today? How many times will they be cast out of heaven and bound?

Jude 1:6

"And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day."
 

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Then that would have meant the 5th Trumpet sounded back in the OT. That is when the angels were loosed from the pit.

According to Jude, the angels are still locked up waiting for the day of judgment, the 5th Trumpet.

According to John is Revelation, the angels were loosed from the pit during the 5th Trumpet woe. They were cast out of heaven at the 7th Trumpet woe.

Do you not think that after tormenting humans, they would have not looked toward heaven, and ascended to heaven during the 6th Trumpet? Were they loose throughout the whole OT and then bound, and will be loosed again? Or were they bound since Adam and still bound today? How many times will they be cast out of heaven and bound?

Jude 1:6

"And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day."

What does this have to do with when/if Satan has been or shall be cast out of heaven to the earth? Don't know how you understand Scripture, but very clearly John writes in Rev 12 that when the Christ child was born there was a war in heaven between Michael and his angels and Satan and his angels, and Satan and his angels were cast out of heaven to the earth. What is very telling regarding this time when Christ was born is when Satan and his angels were cast out of heaven a loud voice from heaven was heard saying, "Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ". It seems the door to heaven opened wide for all who have and will physically die believing in Christ HAVE eternal life. When the Christ child resurrects from death, before ascending to heaven He will descend into the place of the dead (Satan's domain) and spiritually take the faithful dead with Him to heaven as He ascends there.

(See Rev 12)