Is Michael Another Name For Jesus?

[Taken]

I am not in argument with the texts cited. I am not sure why you keep bringing up this point, as I am not against it, but for it. The thread is not whether the name "Jesus" is above every other name (no argument against from me),

but whether the person/being Michael is another name/designation for the Son,

No.

Angels are Created Celestial heavenly hosts.
Michael is of Gods Created Celestial heavenly host.

God even Jesus have a similitude to Angels, each being Spirits.
And Express differences...
God the Father, God the Son, is the Creator and Maker...not the Created.
Michael was Created.

Jude 1:
[9] Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

 

[quietthinker]

It’s probably not Jesus because he was restrained by the Prince of Persia so it could be an Angel but not Gabriel because Daniel recognized Gabriel, so it was likely another Angel.

Dan 9:21 - Yea, whiles I was speaking in prayer,even the man Gabriel,whom I had seen in the vision at the beginning,being caused to fly swiftly,touched me about the time of the evening oblation.

out of interest, The Prince of Persia....Satan?....he is after all the prince of this world and Persia was represented by both the chest and arms of silver and the Ram.

 

[RLT63]

out of interest, The Prince of Persia....Satan?....he is after all the prince of this world and Persia was represented by both the chest and arms of silver and the Ram.

It could be Satan

 

[FactsPlease]

Of COURSE it is!

 

[RLT63]

Of COURSE it is!

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[Bob Estey]

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What biblical evidence supports the teaching that Michael is another name for Jesus?

The name Michael is used five times in the Bible to designate a celestial being (Dan. 10:13, 21; 12:1; Jude 9; Rev. 12:7). He is nowhere explicitly identified with Jesus, but some Christian writers have equated the two by carefully comparing the role played by Michael with that of Jesus. Any comparisons yield not only similarities but also dissimilarities, and both should be taken into account. We’ll start with the passages in which Michael is mentioned and then broaden the horizon to include several passages that are conceptually related to His person and experience.

1. He seems to be an angel: Michael is identified as “one of the chief princes” (Dan. 10:13), “your prince” (verse 21), “the great prince” (Dan. 12:1), and “the archangel” (Jude 9). “Archangel” implies that He is the prince of the angels, suggesting that Michael cannot be another name for Jesus because He is divine and angels are created beings.

Part of the problem is that the noun “angel” is taken to designate a creature, while in the Bible it designates a function. In other words, an “angel” is a being who functions as a “messenger” of God. In most cases they are created beings, but there is an exception.

In the Old Testament there are several references to the “angel [messenger] of the Lord” in which He is equated with God (e.g., Ex. 3:2, 4; Judges 6:12, 14). It is not that the Messenger is identified with the One who sent Him as His representative, but rather that the Sender functions at the same time as the Messenger. Many Christians have identified the Angel of the Lord as the preincarnate Christ. This Christological interpretation seems to be biblically valid.

2. He is leader of the angels: The phrase “one of the chief princes” (Dan. 10:13) could give the impression that He is one among many princes. But according to Revelation 12:7, Michael is the supreme leader of the heavenly angels, or “the great prince.” When necessary, He personally assists angels in their assigned tasks (Dan. 10:13), yet the angelic hosts are under His command (Rev. 12:7). He is indeed the “archangel” (Jude 9). This title is mentioned in one other place in the Bible: 1 Thesselonians 4:16, in the context of the second coming of Christ. He returns “with the voice of the archangel,” suggesting that Michael is most probably another name for Jesus.

3. He protects God’s people: Michael is described as the Prince of Israel (Dan. 10:21), the One who protects Israel (Dan. 12:1). This protection is described in military terms and portrays the Prince as a warrior. In practically all the passages in which He is mentioned there is a conflict between God’s people and their enemies, and Michael is present to defend them or fight for them. The protection can also take the form of judgment in which Michael stands up and defends and delivers God’s people (ibid.). Those are functions of Christ in the New Testament and confirm the suggestion that Michael and Christ are the same person, involved in leadership in the heavenly and earthly realms.

4. He is Prince of the heavenly hosts: In Daniel 8:10 there is a reference to a celestial being who performs the daily services in the heavenly sanctuary. There is only one other passage in the Old Testament in which this being is mentioned. Joshua had an encounter with a being who identified himself as the “captain [commander] of the host [army] of the Lord” (Joshua 5:14). He ordered Joshua to remove his shoes because the ground he was standing on was holy, similar to God’s apparition to Moses. The context makes clear that this being was the Lord Himself (Joshua 6:2). This Prince is the same person called in other passages Prince Michael, and therefore we can identify Him with the preincarnate Christ.

So even though the Bible does not clearly identify Michael with Christ, there is enough biblical information to warrant the view that They are the same person. The name Michael stresses the fact that Christ is the supreme leader of the heavenly angels and the defender of His people as warrior, judge, and priest.

Views:

Is Michael Another Name For Jesus?

Love, Walter and Debbie

No, I don't think Michael is another name for Jesus.

 

[GRACE ambassador]

op: What biblical evidence supports the teaching that Michael is another name for Jesus?

No, I don't think Michael is another name for Jesus.

Yes, Highly DOUBTFUL that any of these are The LORD Jesus Christ, Correct?

Num_13:13 Of the tribe of Asher, Sethur the son of Michael.
1Ch_5:13 And their brethren of the house of their fathers were, Michael,...

1Ch_5:14 These are the children of Abihail the son of
Huri,the son of Jaroah, the son of Gilead, the son of Michael,
the son of Jeshishai...

1Ch_6:40 The son of Michael...

1Ch_7:3 And the sons of Uzzi; Izrahiah: and the sons of Izrahiah; Michael...

1Ch_8:16 And Michael, and Ispah, and Joha, the sons of Beriah;

1Ch_12:20 As he went to Ziklag, there fell to him of
Manasseh, Adnah, and Jozabad, and Jediael, and Michael...

1Ch_27:18 Of Judah, Elihu, one of the brethren
of David: of Issachar, Omri the son of Michael:

2Ch_21:2 And he had brethren the sons of Jehoshaphat,
Azariah, and Jehiel, and Zechariah, and Azariah, and Michael...

Ezr_8:8 And of the sons of Shephatiah; Zebadiah the son of Michael...

However, how about this Biblical Evidence?

Dan_10:13 "...Michael, one of the chief princes..."?

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That Differ” (online)

The LORD Jesus Christ:
Isa 9:6 Isa 9:6 "For unto us A Child is born, unto us A SON...His Name Shall Be Called
Wonderful, Counsellor, THE Mighty God, The Everlasting Father, THE Prince of Peace."

Not 'ONE' of several, Correct?
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Jud_1:9 "Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he
disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing
accusation, but said, THE LORD [Jesus Christ] Rebuke thee."

Thus in order to get 'Michael = Jesus' one would have to misinterpret,
add to [Forbidden By God], and change The Word Of Truth, to this:

Jud_1:9 "Yet Michael the archangel,...said, I, The LORD Rebuke thee."

Q: Who, in this discussion, is willing to RISK your Eternal Welfare on that false rendering?
=======================
Precious friend(s):

Grace, Peace, And JOY In The LORD Jesus Christ, And In His Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided!

 

[ElieG12]

In Mal. 3:1 Jesus is called "the messenger of the covenant":

Mal. 3:1 “Look! I am sending my messenger, and he will clear up a way before me. And suddenly the true Lord, whom you are seeking, will come to his temple; and the messenger of the covenant will come, in whom you take delight. Look! He will certainly come,” says Jehovah of armies.

The interesting thing is that although some translations translate מַלְאָךְ as messenger there, others translate it as ANGEL. That angel is Jesus, who would come to the temple to clean it (Matt. 21:12,13; Mark 11:15-17; Luke 19:45,46), so Jesus is called literally angel, and this is not the only case.

 

[Mr E]

In Mal. 3:1 Jesus is called "the messenger of the covenant":

Mal. 3:1 “Look! I am sending my messenger, and he will clear up a way before me. And suddenly the true Lord, whom you are seeking, will come to his temple; and the messenger of the covenant will come, in whom you take delight. Look! He will certainly come,” says Jehovah of armies.

The interesting thing is that although some translations translate מַלְאָךְ as messenger there, others translate it as ANGEL. That angel is Jesus, who would come to the temple to clean it (Matt. 21:12,13; Mark 11:15-17; Luke 19:45,46), so Jesus is called literally angel, and this is not the only case.

This prophecy in Malachi is the one that Jews believe is pointing to Elijah, who must come first - ahead of the messiah.

 

[RLT63]

This prophecy in Malachi is the one that Jews believe is pointing to Elijah, who must come first - ahead of the messiah.

Mar 1:2 - As it is written in the prophets, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face which shall prepare thy way before thee.

Mar 1:3 - The voice of one crying in the wilderness,Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight.

 

[Keturah]

Hey. It’s okay to bristle when someone rubs you wrong. It’s just that flesh you put under your feet kicking up dust.

Love it !

 

[Keturah]

Ok good. Great.

Sometimes I just like to stir the pot.

You are a very very bad boy !

 

[Keturah]

So…is it your thought that praying in the name of Michael is good or acceptable?

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL.
HOW BACK- TWISTING AFTER YOUR MANY REPRIMANDS OF SOMEONE ELSE....


KNOW THE OLD SAYING ABOUT

THE POT / KETTLE ?????????

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Was that supposed to make sense…?

 

[Taken]

Then your answer is YES- your Gods are witnessing children an d children raped.
That's all I need to know.

What does your god do about children being raped?

 

[RLT63]

No.

Angels are Created Celestial heavenly hosts.
Michael is of Gods Created Celestial heavenly host.

God even Jesus have a similitude to Angels, each being Spirits.
And Express differences...
God the Father, God the Son, is the Creator and Maker...not the Created.
Michael was Created.

Jude 1:
[9] Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

Is Jesus Michael the archangel? | GotQuestions.org

Is Jesus Michael the archangel? Why do Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that Jesus is Michael the Archangel?

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[Taken]

Is Jesus Michael the archangel? | GotQuestions.org

Is Jesus Michael the archangel? Why do Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that Jesus is Michael the Archangel?

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Did not look at that site...hope they testify, Both Jesus and Michael are Spirits...
Not the Same Spirits...Jesus not created....Michael was created.
Is that what that site teaches?

Gen 2:
[1] Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.

The host “of them”—->of the heaven(S) and of the earth.

Gen 2:
[3] And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

Created...and THEN made.
Creator....God
Maker......The Word of God.
By, through, of...POWER of God...who is Christ...who is Everlasting Holy Spirit.

John 1:
[1] In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
[2] The same was in the beginning with God.
[3] All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.


Heaven(s) hosts...Earth’s hosts elaborated.
1 Cor 15:
[38] But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.
[39] All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds.
[40] There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[ElieG12]

This prophecy in Malachi is the one that Jews believe is pointing to Elijah, who must come first - ahead of the messiah.

Mmmh. Only partially ... Here:

Mal. 3:1 “Look! I am sending my messenger, and he will clear up a way before me. And suddenly the true Lord, whom you are seeking, will come to his temple; and the messenger of the covenant will come, in whom you take delight. Look! He will certainly come,” says Jehovah of armies.

... there are three persons: John the Baptizer (Eliah in Mal. 4:5,6) is the first messenger who prepared the way to the Messiah, Jehovah the true Lord who visits the temple (through Jesus), and Jesus the messenger of the covenant who cleaned the temple.

So, Jesus is called the angel of the covenant there.

 

[RLT63]

Did not look at that site...hope they testify, Both Jesus and Michael are Spirits...
Not the Same Spirits...Jesus not created....Michael was created.
Is that what that site teaches?

Gen 2:
[1] Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.

The host “of them”—->of the heaven(S) and of the earth.

Gen 2:
[3] And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

Created...and THEN made.
Creator....God
Maker......The Word of God.
By, through, of...POWER of God...who is Christ...who is Everlasting Holy Spirit.

John 1:
[1] In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
[2] The same was in the beginning with God.
[3] All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.


Heaven(s) hosts...Earth’s hosts elaborated.
1 Cor 15:
[38] But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.
[39] All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds.
[40] There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.

Glory to God,
Taken

Jesus is not Michael the archangel. The Bible nowhere identifies Jesus as Michael (or any other angel, for that matter). Hebrews 1:5-8 draws a clear distinction between Jesus and the angels: “For to which of the angels did God ever say, ‘You are my Son; today I have become your Father’? Or again, ‘I will be His Father, and He will be my Son’? And again, when God brings His firstborn into the world, He says, ‘Let all God’s angels worship Him.’ In speaking of the angels He says, ‘He makes his angels winds, his servants flames of fire.’ But about the Son He says, ‘Your throne, O God, will last forever and ever, and righteousness will be the scepter of your kingdom.’” The hierarchy of heavenly beings is made clear in this passage—angels worship Jesus who, as God, is alone worthy of worship. No angel is ever worshiped in Scripture; therefore, Jesus (worthy of worship) cannot be Michael or any other angel (not worthy of worship

 

[Taken]

Jesus is not Michael the archangel.

Correct. Agree.

The Bible nowhere identifies Jesus as Michael (or any other angel, for that matter).

IMO there is a wonderment, regarding a possibility of Jesus’ appearance to men in the OT, (of course OT men not knowing His name,) but as some OT men had visible encounters...with “angels” that appeared to them “having the look of a man”, even at times “calling” them a man, but knowing they were in the presence of a SPIRIT ANGEL....and on some occasions...OT men having the feeling of being in the presence of God Himself....and delineating that presence....from AN angel’s presence...(ie. AN angel OF the LORD) ... TO: the specific...THE angel of the LORD.


THE angel of the LORD, seems to hold a different significance in the OT...as more Directly being in the presence of God...perhaps JESUS before His incarnation as THE SON of God.

And THE angel of the LORD in the OT, being asked directly, What is his name....and His REPLY, “why do you ask, KNOWING IT IS SECRET”.

Certainly not saying a man CALLING an Angel, a man, means he is a man; or a man CALLING Jesus an Angel, means He IS an Angel...

Jesus IS a Spirit without a Beginning. Not subject to Die.
Angels ARE created spirits with Beginnings. Not subject to Die.

Hebrews 1:5-8 draws a clear distinction between Jesus and the angels: “For to which of the angels did God ever say, ‘You are my Son; today I have become your Father’? Or again, ‘I will be His Father, and He will be my Son’? And again, when God brings His firstborn into the world, He says, ‘Let all God’s angels worship Him.’ In speaking of the angels He says, ‘He makes his angels winds, his servants flames of fire.’ But about the Son He says, ‘Your throne, O God, will last forever and ever, and righteousness will be the scepter of your kingdom.’” The hierarchy of heavenly beings is made clear in this passage—angels worship Jesus who, as God, is alone worthy of worship. No angel is ever worshiped in Scripture; therefore, Jesus (worthy of worship) cannot be Michael or any other angel (not worthy of worship

Yes. Agree.