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sons of God means men of a certain bloodline that would branch off and be uncorrupted to bring forth Jesus from (the Branch and Shoot the prophets spoke of, how about that! The branching off, a branch from a family tree, the branch of the bloodline)
If you track "sons of God" through the Bible, you'll see this refers to those came directly from God, Adam, Angels, and Christians, and, of course, the Only Begotten Son, Jesus, though He is unique of course.

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If you track "sons of God" through the Bible, you'll see this refers to those came directly from God, Adam, Angels, and Christians, and, of course, the Only Begotten Son, Jesus, though He is unique of course.

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ABSOLUTELY TRUE

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Hello!

:)

Much love!
Just a heads Up = Jesus is only referred to as 'THE' Son of God and is not included in the grouping of "sons of God".
Thus the designation of "ONLY begotten Son of the Father"
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"But to which of the angels/sons of God said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool?"
 
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You're making assumptions. It does not say that Noah was the ONLY person who had been uncorrupted by the cross breeding by the sons of God (fallen angels); it just says that he was perfect (without blemish) in his generations (genealogy), and that he walked with God. If you want to make assumptions, I would suggest that Noah's wife and the wives of Noah's three sons were also perfect in their generations.
I've considered that also, that if we are looking at Noah as having the only uncorrupted bloodline, then what about his sons and their wives? Like you've said, there's a assumption sitting there ready to be made!

I've heard people likewise discuss whether the flood was to preserve an uncorrupted bloodline through which Messiah would come. I think the real issue was to preserve an human bloodline that hadn't been corrupted for the sake of humanity itself.

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Just a heads Up = Jesus is only referred to as 'THE' Son of God and is not included in the grouping of "sons of God".
Thus the designation of "ONLY begotten Son of the Father"
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"But to which of the angels/sons of God said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool?"
Yes. The Monogenesis. "Of a single generation", which can be understood as "He came to be in a way shared with no other".

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The term "sons of God" used in Genesis is referring to angels.
This has been made clear from Scripture for us to know = Genesis, Job, Jude, 2 Peter, Luke
You would have to lay your assertion out for us rather than fly in with your opinion and then fly back out. I have not seen what you claim is there. I do recall “sons of God” somewhere else…Job? I guess I need to go look those up in Hebrew too and carefully examine them. My original question was, can it be proven, or even shed some doubt, from the whole of scripture, that angels never mated with women?
 

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Yes. The Monogenesis. "Of a single generation", which can be understood as "He came to be in a way shared with no other".

Much love!
Monogenesis in this aspect = "a Body You have prepared for Me" - Heb 10:5

ETERNAL from this BEGINNING = "In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God." - John ch1

SEE the difference that seperates flesh from ETERNAL SPIRIT/TRUTH/LIFE
 
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The nephilim were on earth in those days, when Gods sons had sex (came in to their tents and had sex) with men’s daughters. To what Angel has God said, you are My Son? Angels are not sons. Sons are begotten, born, not created.
There is nothing there that makes me assume nephilim (fallen angels) are Gods sons.
The Nephilim is the name given to the giant men that were the offspring of the mating with women by the angels which took on human form. Genesis 6:2 says:

(2) God’s sons saw that men’s daughters were beautiful, and they took any that they wanted for themselves as wives.​

Note it says "God's sons", not men's sons, and "men's daughters". God's sons is referring to angels, as in Job 1:6 (KJV):

(6) Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.​

Also, don't forget that Jesus is the only-begotten son of God - the angels were not begotten by God, they were created (through/by Jesus).

Also, you don't have to be begotten by God to be called a son of God. Adam was called a son of God, and he was created by God - Luke 3:38 (WEB):

(38) the son of Enos, the son of Seth, the son of Adam, the son of God.​
 
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You would have to lay your assertion out for us rather than fly in with your opinion and then fly back out. I have not seen what you claim is there. I do recall “sons of God” somewhere else…Job? I guess I need to go look those up in Hebrew too and carefully examine them. My original question was, can it be proven, or even shed some doubt, from the whole of scripture, that angels never mated with women?

I gave the Scriptural reference locations concerning the given topic = "Seek and you will find"
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The Nephilim is the name given to the giant men that were the offspring of the mating with women by the angels which took on human form. Genesis 6:2 says:

(2) God’s sons saw that men’s daughters were beautiful, and they took any that they wanted for themselves as wives.​

Note it says "God's sons", not men's sons, and "men's daughters". God's sons is referring to angels, as in Job 1:6 (KJV):

(6) Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.​

Also, don't forget that Jesus is the only-begotten son of God - the angels were not begotten by God, they were created (through/by Jesus).
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I've considered that also, that if we are looking at Noah as having the only uncorrupted bloodline, then what about his sons and their wives?
His sons ARE his same bloodline. But you have a possible point with the wives, UNLESS the wives are also from that same branch beginning with Seth, (rather than the branch of Cain) and then they would be included with Noah’s generations. Correct?
 

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His sons ARE his same bloodline. But you have a possible point with the wives, UNLESS the wives are also from that same branch beginning with Seth, (rather than the branch of Cain) and then they would be included with Noah’s generations. Correct?
You said: "His sons ARE his same bloodline."

Who is "His" in your statement - God or Noah?
 

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Monogenesis in this aspect = "a Body You have prepared for Me" - Heb 10:5

ETERNAL from this BEGINNING = "In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God." - John ch1

SEE the difference that seperates flesh from ETERNAL SPIRIT/TRUTH/LIFE
Yes, again! We are in full agreement here I believe! God created Adam, God created the Angels, God begot us, and God the Father prepared a Body for God the Son.

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His sons ARE his same bloodline. But you have a possible point with the wives, UNLESS the wives are also from that same branch beginning with Seth, (rather than the branch of Cain) and then they would be included with Noah’s generations. Correct?
Genesis 6:9 KJV
These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.

That's all we're told.

But "sons of God" isn't about human bloodlines.

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Im puzzled at how you can not determine that from marks post and my reply to marks post…
I have to make 100% certain so that i do not assume on an incorrect basis by which my response then follows a path off course= of course!

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