What does it mean to be born again?

[Johann]

But you are all doing is looking in the bible for scriptures that justify you IN your sins. That's what baby believers do. You are all carnal...the bunch of you. And having to take you by the hand to show you you are still carnal is tiring, to say the least.

Think you need to take a nap again.

Rom_4:7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.
Eph 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
Eph 4:31 Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice:
Eph 4:32 And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.

Talking about humility, as a "teacher" you should put the scriptures and the Imperatives into practice BEFORE you teach, whatever it is you teach, since it is not the gospel.

ANYONE who claims righteousness for themselves is self-righteous. It doesn't matter what the bible says that you want to make believe about. ALL our (human) righteousnessess are filthy.

You are no "teacher" but to sell your brand, unashamedly, on this Forum. You know nothing about righteousness and it is painfully obvious for all to see.

Come out of the toddler stage....learn... and show a little humility and fear of God.

The one that is playing with dolls, in a state of being a toddler, is you, in fact, you are still a olel..
Heb 5:12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.
Heb 5:13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.

For indeed by this time you ought to be morim saying shiurim, but instead you have need again to be taught the basic ikarim of the Divrei Hashem, and you have become one having need of cholov and not solid okhel.
For everyone partaking of cholov is unacquainted with HaDivrei Tzedek, for he is an olel

You have no fear of God and don't know what humility is.
You are here to "sell" not to be corrected.
Thus sayeth Epi....

 

[Episkopos]

Think you need to take a nap again.

Rom_4:7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.
Eph 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
Eph 4:31 Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice:
Eph 4:32 And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.

Talking about humility, as a "teacher" you should put the scriptures and the Imperatives into practice BEFORE you teach, whatever it is you teach, since it is not the gospel.

You are no "teacher" but to sell your brand, unashamedly, on this Forum. You know nothing about righteousness and it is painfully obvious for all to see.

The one that is playing with dolls, in a state of being a toddler, is you, in fact, you are still a olel..
Heb 5:12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.
Heb 5:13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.

For indeed by this time you ought to be morim saying shiurim, but instead you have need again to be taught the basic ikarim of the Divrei Hashem, and you have become one having need of cholov and not solid okhel.
For everyone partaking of cholov is unacquainted with HaDivrei Tzedek, for he is an olel

You have no fear of God and don't know what humility is.
You are here to "sell" not to be corrected.
Thus sayeth Epi....

This is all from your religious outer man trying to defend itself against the truth. But I think there is an inner man in there somewhere realizing I'm speaking the truth. If you set your inner man free he would say.....


Thank you Epi for trying to reach me in this dark hole I have placed myself in. Don't give up on me, please. I don't even know why I'm so bitter and hostile, even to servants of God. I seem to be out of control. Help! Pray for me!

To THAT inner man I would say.. ....Brother (that is hiding in Johann) Be strong with faith in the Lord. You have the will to say "enough" to your carnal flesh. Seek the face of God as you get tired of the flesh controlling your words and actions. God will strengthen you and crucify your rebellious flesh. And then you will never be the same.

 

[Behold]

Thank you Epi for trying to reach me in this dark hole I have placed myself in.

Episkopos.,

You stated that : "Jesus is not my sacrifice for my sins"., and that The Cross is "whipping boy" Nonsense.

So, a Cross denier, and a Christ abuser who is trying to pretend you are teaching truth, is anything but... true.

And i know you realize that if and when you try to re-write and soften the SPIT that you gave Christ your "whipping Boy", and your denial of Christ's sacrifice for sins, mine, ...etc.....that i'll repost your quotes.
So, you might want to consider that, before you try that next deception.

 

[Johann]

Thank you Epi for trying to reach me in this dark hole I have placed myself in. Don't give up on me, please. I don't even know why I'm so bitter and hostile, even to servants of God. I seem to be out of control. Help! Pray for me!

Episkopos.,

You stated that : "Jesus is not my sacrifice for my sins"., and that The Cross is "whipping boy" Nonsense.

So, a Cross denier, and a Christ abuser who is trying to pretend you are teaching truth, is anything but... true.

I can see right through him @Behold he is denying scriptures and is here to sell his foreign "eternal conscious" upper-lower-outer-inner--double story-lower story--"thus sayet Epi" whatever nonsense he can come up with.

 

[Lizbeth]

It can get tricky...

No. We know that we can believe what we want. There are thousands of denominations based on preferences in beliefs. Unless you are so naive as to think that the Holy Spirit wants all the carnal divisions we see.

You are maybe too immature to realize that there is a higher faith...the faith OF Christ. "Until that faith should be revealed"

You are way behind in your understanding. You need a few more years to pray seek and meditate...AFTER you have been crucified from the flesh. That's why you aren't able to understand the bible...beyond what it is doing for your religious ego.

We have covered all this before...but you need the same story told to you over and over and over...and you still don't get it. If you were more humble and realized the stage you are in...we could go over it more slowly perhaps. But I know you are filtering everything through your outer man.




You're grasping at straws here. This is false. God was happy that SOMEBODY did something. God is looking to us. You want God to be a puppet master.




Of course God can put us in different scenarios. He can have mercy on whoever He wills...even Catholics. Does that hurt your reformation pride?



You don't understand salvation by works..we will ALL be judged by our works. We are NOT to be judged by grace. You can't see that grace is a way to greater works.


This is religion talking. No one can come to God save through Christ. But that doesn't mean you get to dirty up the proceedings with your own judgments. Stick to trying to justify yourself...not take away the righteousness from the righteous.


Completely false. Cornelius is an example of a man who was righteous BEFORE becoming a Christian. Many examples of this in the bible...we have Zacharias and Elizabeth...Your spiritual blindness keeps you hypocritical...a modern Pharisee.

Perfect...yes. But they were righteous. You need teaching (desperately) about the difference between what we can do and are responsible for...and what an EMPOWERED person can do by grace.

Getting tired of your constant abuse and belittling. Just can't help yourself it seems.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Getting tired of your constant abuse and belittling. Just can't help yourself it seems.

he is just like the pharisees,. He has their works based mentality, and their hypocritical proud spirit

 

[Johann]

he is just like the pharisees,. He has their works based mentality, and their hypocritical proud spirit

The little he knows is mere mechanical, stoical gnosis, not EPI-gnosis--knowledge.
I am surprised the Mods are not here to intervene.
J.

 

[Behold]

I can see right through him @Behold he is denying scriptures and is here to sell his foreign "eternal conscious" upper-lower-outer-inner--double story-lower story--"thus sayet Epi" whatever nonsense he can come up with.

I'll tell you what he's doing, Johann.
Hes laughing.
He's having a good time...watching the fires burn and the chaos continue.
He is enjoying seeing people get upset, and just comes by occasionally to fan the flame with some sarcasm or one more heresy. or to give someone he's deceived a fake pat on their back for helping him out..
For about 40 pages now, his responses are little more then the latest click bait to keep the Thread going.

His Theology he posts....that ive read, is a mixture of self righteousness and legalism and confusion.
Then he sits back and has a good laugh at the responses.
He is a dark light Luke 11:35 , based on just a few blasphemous things that he's said to me about the Cross....Jesus Himself.... and the Gift of Salvation.
i have not read a lot of what he's said to others but im sure much is just total Cross Rejection.

You might remember that i asked him nearly 10x in a row, in posts, if he believes he can "lose his Salvation">

= "silence".

 

[Eternally Grateful]

The little he knows is mere mechanical, stoical gnosis, not EPI-gnosis--knowledge.
I am surprised the Mods are not here to intervene.
J.

he has been here for along time.. They know who he is..

 

[Episkopos]

Episkopos.,

You stated that : "Jesus is not my sacrifice for my sins"., and that The Cross is "whipping boy" Nonsense.

So, a Cross denier, and a Christ abuser who is trying to pretend you are teaching truth, is anything but... true.

And i know you realize that if and when you try to re-write and soften the SPIT that you gave Christ your "whipping Boy", and your denial of Christ's sacrifice for sins, mine, ...etc.....that i'll repost your quotes.
So, you might want to consider that, before you try that next deception.

One of the attributes of the religious outer man is that he will twist words and meanings to deceive the simple.

The whipping boy analogy is how you disrespect what Jesus did for the whole world. You claim Him as your personal cover-up for your incessant sinning. As chief crow here, you are inspiring other religious sycophants. That is your role. So you bring chaos to the beautiful order that this thread started with...about being truly born again of the Spirit. That's before your venom sullied the possibility of deeper understanding.

You are known here on the forum as a loose cannon...totally consumed with the flesh...with a religious covering that will see you in dire circumstances come judgment day.

You could always repent...

 

[Behold]

One of the attributes of the religious outer man is that he will twist words and meanings to deceive the simple.

The whipping boy analogy is how you disrespect what Jesus did for the whole world.

Your Thread is the religious fakir, speaking chrisianese, to attempt to deceive.
Your next Thread will be the same event.
If my count is right, you have deceived 2 people and have insulted the Holy Spirit, the Cross of Christ, Jesus Himself, and quite a few members.

And i told you that your "free stuff" attack on God's Grace, and your devilish "whipping boy" analysis of The Grace of God, is the proof you are here to harm the faith of real believers.

Its your ministry, Episkopos.
Your unnamed cult has trained you well.

And did you want to now tell us why you believe you can lose your salvation, or do you need to hide that from the members, a while longer?
I already know, but they would like to hear you try to explain it.
Ready yet?

Im looking forward to it.

 

[Episkopos]

Your Thread is the religious fakir, speaking chrisianese, to attempt to deceive.
If my count is right, you have deceived 2 people.

And i told you that your "free stuff" attack on God's Grace, and your "whipping boy" analysis of The Grace of God, is the proof you are here to harm the faith of real believers.

Are you saying that the initial grace isn't free? Are you a works salvation person? Do you think Jesus died for your pleasure? Making videos of actors portraying Jesus on the cross so you can watch Him suffer...over and over again? And you think THAT is glorying in the cross?

You are one sick puppy, Behold.

And your disease is affecting the babes in Christ here. You are seducing them with your lies...and they are too simple to see what you are doing. They have joined you in your filthiness.

 

[Episkopos]

Getting tired of your constant abuse and belittling. Just can't help yourself it seems.

You should realize that God is looking for spiritual fruit..not religious nuts.

 

[Episkopos]

I think I'm done with this thread. Let the righteous remain righteous, and let the filthy remain filthy.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

One of the attributes of the religious outer man is that he will twist words and meanings to deceive the simple.

The whipping boy analogy is how you disrespect what Jesus did for the whole world. You claim Him as your personal cover-up for your incessant sinning. As chief crow here, you are inspiring other religious sycophants. That is your role. So you bring chaos to the beautiful order that this thread started with...about being truly born again of the Spirit. That's before your venom sullied the possibility of deeper understanding.

You are known here on the forum as a loose cannon...totally consumed with the flesh...with a religious covering that will see you in dire circumstances come judgment day.

You could always repent...

You should read this in a mirror. It suits you perfectly

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I think I'm done with this thread. Let the righteous remain righteous, and let the filthy remain filthy.

There are no righteous no not one

Let the blood washed remain blood washed

Let the sinner come to repentance

 

[marks]

So then you agree with the words of God that righteous is as righteous does, whether by works (like Phihehas) or faith (like Abraham)?

Think I messed up the quote thing again... @Episkopos

Well, if I may approach it from this angle, do you agree that faith is of the Holy Spirit, whether in old covenant times or new covenant? Remember that Abraham had been 'chosen' by God. We need faith to see that Phineas was moved by faith (aka by the Spirit) to act as he did....that's where his faith came from in those moments, not of his own.

But then this all gets into the question of the Lord having mercy on who He has mercy, while hardening others, etc. Just not sure I'm up to a discussion about that right now.

I think you are trying to make a case that people can be saved by their own righteousness....but I believe that is not possible. Nobody is saved apart from the gospel....those who may attract the favour of God like Cornelius WILL have and NEED to have the gospel revealed to them in order to be saved. And even the OT saints had to wait for salvation as it were......they would not be made perfect (ie, born of the spirit) without us new covenant believers.

Rebirth is in Christ, joining Him in His death, and before He died and then rose again from among the dead, that didn't happen.

Jeremiah and Ezekiel both prophesied the new covenant with rebirth as something yet future to the time of their prophesying.

God accepted men's righteousness, and even in this, faith and grace is required, because there are none that do not sin. A real righteousness, if of the flesh, including under the Law, is incomplete. No matter who we are, we are not good enough, and must be looking for His mercy.

Acts 17:30-31 KJV
30) And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:
31) Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.

Looking for His mercy,

Jude 1:20-21 KJV
20) But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,
21) Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.

Keep yourself in His love, looking for mercy from Jesus.

Much love!

 

[Behold]

Are you saying that the initial grace isn't free?

That beautiful GIFT of Salvation the "free Gift"...(Christ on the Cross).....you described it as "free stuff".... Episkops... like some Trick or Treat Halloween candy.
The reason you said that, is because you have a religious works in place of Grace issue, theologically,..... so, you have no respect nor sensitivity regarding the Blood of Jesus, and can say "Free Stuff", like a R-Rated actor says..."jesus christ" on a movie Screen.

You'll bow before The REAL King one day, disrespectful mouth.

You committed the same blasphemy when you referred to the Holy Lord as "Whipping Boy".

That is a demonic sarcastic characterization given by a theologically deluded self righteous disrespectful hyper religious person.

Even the Demons that Jesus cast out in the New Testament never even considered such an insult., and you Episkops committed them both in a Thread posted on a Christian Forum.

 

[Behold]

You should realize that God is looking for spiritual fruit..not religious nuts.

Look in the mirror.

 

[Behold]

You are one sick puppy, Behold.

Jesus on the cross so you can watch Him suffer

A deceived fool and tool of the devil. called me a "sick puppy" in a post on this forum, while hiding in your bedroom behind a screen.
Sounds like something you would do, Episkopos.
Doesn't it?
I can smell your obvious bravery from here.

Also, Im not surprised that the Cross Video offended you.
It has offended every devil it ever exposed, for the last 2000 + years.

And, I created that video to show the suffering Lamb, dying for sin, on the Cross...and then His Resurrection.
I like to bring it out on Resurrection Day, which is to be celebrated soon.
In this case, i brought it out for you.... a little early.
As You would interpret it as "actor", portraying the "whipping boy".

And like i told you, you and your disrespect of the Cross will bring certain comeuppance in your coming days.
As......God is not mocked.