Warning about vaccines from doctors and scientists

[Behold]

So are you medicine free? or do you take any form of pharmakoi? Aspirin? Tylenol? Advil? Pepto Bismol? ay pharmaceutical at all? or do you justify your taking some medication by redefining terms to suit your passion.

And you seem to forget that pharmakeia in its context is magical use of mind altering drugs. It is not taking aspirin or a prescribed antibiotic for an infection.

Readers....

Hopefully, most believers believe that God wants us healthy, as we are His Children, and He is our Father.
What Father, what Parent..... want's His Children to be sick or poor?
Not a very good one.

Imagine...... you visit a friend who is a Christian, that you have not seen in 22 yrs.
They have (2) 10 yr old twin girls.... Lily and Natalie .
You go to see your old friend, their Dad, and they tell you....>"well, my girls are in a small box in the back yard, chained to the floor. I give them one meal every 2 days, and water every day... Im teaching them how to take up their cross and deny themselves, as that is what i read in the bible, somewhere"....

Hummmmmm.


Believers should also go directly to : "by Jesus Stripes we were healed", as soon as a symptom shows up, and before you go to a clinic.

Now, if you just lacerated your Carotid artery with a steak knife after tripping over your dog and falling on the knife...., then pray while you're dialing 911 to get the ambulance......, if. you have time before you pass out from blood loss and die.

Here is the thing reader.... God gave you some common sense and you are to pray and believe.
its BOTH.
One should not cancel out the other because you're trying to prove you are "spiritual".
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Now....What does all that mean?
It means that Jesus healed before the Cross and also through it..., and we are "in Christ", "blood bought".

What else does that mean?
It means that Paul had Luke with Him, as much as possible...and Luke was the "beloved Physician".
Luke was a DOCTOR.
Yeah, really, thats in the "bible".
No kiddin'..

Also, Paul didnt tell Timothy to "pray about that stress and nervous stomach".. He told him to drink some wine for that STRESS.
You know, the same kind that Jesus created when he performed his first Miracle.

So what is the final analysis?

Its that meds and doctors can be God's way of healing.... and a miracle is God's way of Healing,....... and all healing is of God.

Sometimes the healing is instant through Prayer..... and sometimes its a recovery through Prayer, and sometimes its a med that works overnight.

If you are sick, and a pill can solve it,, then take the pill., and "pray without ceasing"....also.

 

[Naomanos]

If you are sick, and a pill can solve it,, then take the pill., and "pray without ceasing"....also.

Ding ding ding, we have a winner!

 

[Earburner]

Readers....

Hopefully, most believers believe that God wants us healthy, as we are His Children, and He is our Father.
What Father, what Parent..... want's His Children to be sick or poor?
Not a very good one.

Imagine...... you visit a friend who is a Christian, that you have not seen in 22 yrs.
They have (2) 10 yr old twin girls.... Lily and Natalie .
You go to see your old friend, their Dad, and they tell you....>"well, my girls are in a small box in the back yard, chained to the floor. I give them one meal every 2 days, and water every day... Im teaching them how to take up their cross and deny themselves, as that is what i read in the bible, somewhere"....

Hummmmmm.


Believers should also go directly to : "by Jesus Stripes we were healed", as soon as a symptom shows up, and before you go to a clinic.

Now, if you just lacerated your Carotid artery with a steak knife after tripping over your dog and falling on the knife...., then pray while you're dialing 911 to get the ambulance......, if. you have time before you pass out from blood loss and die.

Here is the thing reader.... God gave you some common sense and you are to pray and believe.
its BOTH.
One should not cancel out the other because you're trying to prove you are "spiritual".
==============================================================================

Now....What does all that mean?
It means that Jesus healed before the Cross and also through it..., and we are "in Christ", "blood bought".

What else does that mean?
It means that Paul had Luke with Him, as much as possible...and Luke was the "beloved Physician".
Luke was a DOCTOR.
Yeah, really, thats in the "bible".
No kiddin'..

Also, Paul didnt tell Timothy to "pray about that stress and nervous stomach".. He told him to drink some wine for that STRESS.
You know, the same kind that Jesus created when he performed his first Miracle.

So what is the final analysis?

Its that meds and doctors can be God's way of healing.... and a miracle is God's way of Healing,....... and all healing is of God.

Sometimes the healing is instant through Prayer..... and sometimes its a recovery through Prayer, and sometimes its a med that works overnight.

If you are sick, and a pill can solve it,, then take the pill., and "pray without ceasing"....also.

Here is how God looks at a saints mortal death, whenever it shall be, whether it's by old age, an accident, or by the hands of another:
John 11
[21] Then said Martha unto Jesus, Lord, if thou hadst been here, my brother had not died.
[22] But I know, that even now, whatsoever thou wilt ask of God, God will give it thee.
[23] Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again.
[24] Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.
[25] Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
[26] And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die....................

..... Believest thou this?

In comparison to Eternity, what is 40, 50, or 100 years of mortal life?
Nothing!

This world is obsessed with killing lives, as well as saving lives.
Jesus has a better and eternal way, and it begins today and every day, for all who repent towards God through faith in our RISEN Savior, by making them into born again NEW creatures by His Spirit.

Edit: John 12
[25] He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal.
[26] If any man serve me, let him follow me; and where I am, there shall also my servant be: if any man serve me, him will my Father honour.
Luke 12
[51] Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division [between the saved and the unsaved]:

[52] For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three.
[53] The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

Mortal flesh is not a winner! But, for those who do have the Spirit Christ, and do walk by faith in Him, they ARE!
Rom. 8:8-9, 1 John 5:12-13.

 

[Behold]

Ding ding ding, we have a winner!

Let me tell you what i saw one night.

A TV minister, who is very adamant about "faith healing"...... who is very aggressive about that particular ministry.... "the prayer of faith"..and "point of contact".....

He is on TV one night with His arm in a cast, in a blue sling., still talking about "believing faith for your healing, for your miracle".
He went to the doctor that very day, and had that broken arm dealt with...before the show.
Im sure he prayed first.

I dont have any issue with that., because i have been healed miraculously, and ive taken meds and got better.

Right now.......as i sit here typing into my Macbook for you, reader, my right shoulder is just a mess of tissue damage and joint pain.
Why?
Too much going to the gym, too much lifting, too much working out...... and now im hurt for 4 months. My left arm is healing, and this right one is keeping me up at night.
Its wakes me up everynight, throbbing, HURTS, for months.
As i type to you, its hurting me.. to type.

What am i doing,? I trust in the Blood of Jesus for my healing, and it'll come.......as "by His stripes i was healed",.....I walk in divine healing.
Ive prayed for a member here, and they got well... and also in real life.....and that is Jesus...... That is God's LOVE.....for us.
Ive had this happen on other forums......and GOD BE Praised, as all i did was set my faith with theirs according to : Matthew 18: 19-20
I just got them to focus their BELIEF.
This is not uncommon.

Ive had a blood issue healed, miraculously.... Ive seen other miracles in the daytime happen in front of me, with my eyes wide open over the years. on both sides of this world.
I had a 2yr period of miraculous things happening to me and around me in the late '80s, , and all i could do was just try to be calm and wonder about it.

So, my arm is a mess, and that is not a confession, that is just a fact., and i am believing, while i HURT and lose sleep..and one day, ill come back here and give a praise report....and until then, i'll take a pain med, and go to the gym in about 8 hrs from when i posted this post.

"watch and pray"......Watch what God does, while you keep praying and believing.
Hallelujah !!
Thank you Jesus.. !
That's the walk of faith READER, as its the expectation that God our FATHER.... is going to solve it, heal it, make it right.......that is real faith.
This type of faith is Trust+Expectation.
Have this always.


So......
Healing comes from God or you stop breathing.
Every day our immune system is working to keep us healed.... and we get to live another day , is a gift of healing.
Believe it.

When does your literal healing run out and Hebrews 9:27 show up?
When you die., and that is actually the biggest HEALING of all... subsequent to being born again.

 

[Naomanos]

my right shoulder is just a mess of tissue damage and joint pain.

I am sorry to hear that.

My shoulder has been bothering me for a couple of weeks and I think I may have a torn rotator cuff. Haven't had it looked at yet, but will soon. Will probably need surgery for it. I have two bad knees that hurt on a daily basis and have been since I was in my early 20s. Hoping that I don't need to have them replaced as I get older.

Do I believe that God heals everyone, no, no I don't. As an EMT, I know that death comes for us all. I know that God doesn't heal all while they are on this earth. They will be healed though as you said when they die and go to Heaven, and that is the biggest healing of all.

 

[Behold]

I am sorry to hear that.

My shoulder has been bothering me for a couple of weeks and I think I may have a torn rotator cuff. Haven't had it looked at yet, but will soon. Will probably need surgery for it. I have two bad knees that hurt on a daily basis and have been since I was in my early 20s. Hoping that I don't need to have them replaced as I get older.

Do I believe that God heals everyone, no, no I don't. As an EMT, I know that death comes for us all. I know that God doesn't heal all while they are on this earth. They will be healed though as you said when they die and go to Heaven, and that is the biggest healing of all.

its 40-60 that Rotator Cuff surgery will work or last., so as both of us have or still do work in Health Care, that is my health care statement.

If your arm aches at night, and you have to find a certain position to lay in the bed to sleep, that seems to work for your arm..., then yep.

Reaching above your head is pain, and lifting your arm straight out from your hip to shoulder is pain?...yep.

Trying to put that arm behind your back, and slightly bring it higher, against your body, hurts? Yep....that a RTC tear

Trying to reach straight out in front of you, and the arm is weak, all the time? Yep.

Sometimes a cortisone shot can really help.


Now, let me talk to you as a believer.

We are not healed because we deserve it., exactly like we are not saved because we deserve it.
None of us deserves to be saved or healed., so, just know that., as that can help you believe correctly.

See, what our natural mind thinks is.....>well, if im good enough, then good happens'.
No.

Good happens because God is good all the time.

Healing happens because Jesus has bought and paid for your healing with His Blood and Death.
Thats the only reason that God became our Father and Healing is ours to claim.

Everything with Christianity is "by the CROSS" = GIVEN.

We are forgiven by it.....saved by it.....healed by it.

 

[Naomanos]

its 40-60 that Rotator Cuff surgery will work or last., so as both of us have or still do work in Health Care, that is my health care statement.

If your arm aches at night, and you have to find a certain position to lay in the bed to sleep, that seems to work for your arm..., then yep.

Reaching above your head is pain, and lifting your arm straight out from your hip to shoulder is pain?...yep.

Trying to put that arm behind your back, and slightly bring it higher, against your body, hurts? Yep....that a RTC tear

Trying to reach straight out in front of you, and the arm is weak, all the time? Yep.

Sometimes a cortisone shot can really help.

I don't have all those symptoms, but some of them do. It started with not being able to stretch my arm out under my pillow at night on that side and has moved on to pain when I move it certain ways or lift things.

Now, let me talk to you as a believer.

We are not healed because we deserve it., exactly like we are not saved because we deserve it.
None of us deserves to be saved or healed., so, just know that., as that can help you believe correctly.

See, what our natural mind thinks is.....>well, if im good enough, then good happens'.
No.

Good happens because God is good all the time.

Healing happens because Jesus has bought and paid for your healing with His Blood and Death.
Thats the only reason that God became our Father and Healing is ours to claim.

Everything with Christianity is "by the CROSS" = GIVEN.

We are forgiven by it.....saved by it.....healed by it.

Not sure I said anything about being good and deserving the healing. All I said is that I do not believe that God heals everyone, at least not while on this earth. Everyone gets healed when they get to Heaven. This is what I believe.

 

[Behold]

This is what I believe.

I know what you believe.

It was not a finger point or condemnation.

But if you have been trained by Calvin , baptist, catholic, presbyterian, assembly of God...all denoms have some of it...... that "if its God will "...or...."being hurt, sick, is God's will"......

see that stuff?
That is not God.
That is Calvin.

Here is John the Devil Calvin....>"it was all meant to be"....>"if it happened then it was supposed to happen". "destined".

See that demonic slop?
That stuff will wreck your faith, as its designed to wreck it.

Be wary of that, as this devil's theology is like homosexuality....its "catching". its a spiritual infection.

And.

Do you have one of these ?
It hangs on a inside the house door frame from the top........
its a pull up bar.
Get one like it, and hang from it......just hang from it....... for a while.......daily.........stretch from it.....and allow your arms to straighten out, hanging.......and it does not have to be full body weight.
Doing this daily, will help you heal.
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[Naomanos]

Do you have one of these ?
It hangs on a inside the house door frame from the top........
its a pull up bar.
Get one like it, and hang from it......just hang from it....... for a while.......daily.........stretch from it.....and allow your arms to straighten out, hanging.......and it does not have to be full body weight.
Doing this daily, will help you heal.

Thank you, I will look into it.

 

[Earburner]

There are three times in the NT that satan taunted and tempted Jesus, through his subtil benevolence:

Mat. 4[6] And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.

Luke 16
[20] Then charged he his disciples that they should tell no man that he was Jesus the Christ.
[21] From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.
[22] Then Peter [satan in Peter] took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee. [IN other words: "you don't HAVE to die"]*
[23] But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.
* Didn't we just hear those words, recently about COVID? "You don't have to die, TAKE THE SHOT [by pharmakeia]".

Mat. 27
[39] And they that passed by reviled him, wagging their heads,
[40] And saying, Thou that destroyest the temple, and buildest it in three days, save thyself. If thou be the Son of God, come down from the cross.
[41] Likewise also the chief priests mocking him, with the scribes and elders, said,
[42] He saved others; himself he cannot save. If he be the King of Israel, let him now come down from the cross, and we will believe him.
[43] He trusted in God; let him deliver him now, if he will have him: for he said, I am the Son of God.

God forbid any person that calls the pharmaceutical drugs, injections, vaccines and medical operations by men, to be of God!

That is not to say that we can't go for medical help for our physical bodies. However, through that help, we who ARE Christians should recognize that through faith, ONLY God heals our diseases, and not the science of medicine by pharmakeia.
Psalm 103:3.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

You are not paying attention to the words: "THY merchants were the GREAT men of the earth; for by THY sorceries [pharmakeia] were ALL nations deceived.

One has to now focus on who the word "thy" is referencing.
I can tell you who that is, but most here cannot take it in, or even entertain it.
Clue: "Mystery, Babylon the Great, the mother of harlots" is not what "church-ianity" thinks it is.

It's so far removed from their minds, that just by me saying who it is, would completely wreck all of their prophetic understanding, and for that, they would be in extreme denial, just to protect their doctrines of men.

The merchants are the merchants of the rebuilt city of Babylon that will rise to become a great world power seat. Before the antichrist moves on Jerusalem it will be his capital city. Babylon has been rebuilt to a very large measure. Even the temple as been rebuilt with a scale down, using close to 6 million bricks from the original grand city.

Mystery Babylon- the mother of all harlots is the very religious system founded by Nimrod that has remained alive and well in many religions (including Christendom).

 

[Ronald Nolette]

And this has absolutely nothing to do with the specific issue we are talking about! Once again you are picking an apple and saying how terrible an orange it is. I do not disagree at all with the political and media conspiracy stuff in a large measure, but this has nothing to do with the strange anomaly in the blood we are talking about.

It seems to me that you are trying to place guilt by casual association. If they are lying here- they must be lying there. No we must uncover each lie on its own and not just paint with a broadbrush of guilt. How would you like it if you were branded guilty of something simply because there is a causual relationship between you and whatever the crime is?

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Readers....

Hopefully, most believers believe that God wants us healthy, as we are His Children, and He is our Father.
What Father, what Parent..... want's His Children to be sick or poor?
Not a very good one.

Imagine...... you visit a friend who is a Christian, that you have not seen in 22 yrs.
They have (2) 10 yr old twin girls.... Lily and Natalie .
You go to see your old friend, their Dad, and they tell you....>"well, my girls are in a small box in the back yard, chained to the floor. I give them one meal every 2 days, and water every day... Im teaching them how to take up their cross and deny themselves, as that is what i read in the bible, somewhere"....

Hummmmmm.


Believers should also go directly to : "by Jesus Stripes we were healed", as soon as a symptom shows up, and before you go to a clinic.

Now, if you just lacerated your Carotid artery with a steak knife after tripping over your dog and falling on the knife...., then pray while you're dialing 911 to get the ambulance......, if. you have time before you pass out from blood loss and die.

Here is the thing reader.... God gave you some common sense and you are to pray and believe.
its BOTH.
One should not cancel out the other because you're trying to prove you are "spiritual".
==============================================================================

Now....What does all that mean?
It means that Jesus healed before the Cross and also through it..., and we are "in Christ", "blood bought".

What else does that mean?
It means that Paul had Luke with Him, as much as possible...and Luke was the "beloved Physician".
Luke was a DOCTOR.
Yeah, really, thats in the "bible".
No kiddin'..

Also, Paul didnt tell Timothy to "pray about that stress and nervous stomach".. He told him to drink some wine for that STRESS.
You know, the same kind that Jesus created when he performed his first Miracle.

So what is the final analysis?

Its that meds and doctors can be God's way of healing.... and a miracle is God's way of Healing,....... and all healing is of God.

Sometimes the healing is instant through Prayer..... and sometimes its a recovery through Prayer, and sometimes its a med that works overnight.

If you are sick, and a pill can solve it,, then take the pill., and "pray without ceasing"....also.

Wow! You succinctly and artfully showed what my position has been all along! Pray and go see a doctor if the prayer does not bring immediate healing!

Like the story a preacher once said. A man is out in the middle of the lake in a canoe and sees terribly dark storm clouds beginning to roil in and head for the lake. Teh preachers advice? "Pray to God but row towards shore."

 

[Peterlag]

And this has absolutely nothing to do with the specific issue we are talking about! Once again you are picking an apple and saying how terrible an orange it is. I do not disagree at all with the political and media conspiracy stuff in a large measure, but this has nothing to do with the strange anomaly in the blood we are talking about.

It seems to me that you are trying to place guilt by casual association. If they are lying here- they must be lying there. No we must uncover each lie on its own and not just paint with a broadbrush of guilt. How would you like it if you were branded guilty of something simply because there is a causual relationship between you and whatever the crime is?

You see it in parts. Many of us see it as one. Here's an example of how many see it as one...

The pandemic is to force you to get the vaccine.
The vaccine is to force you to get the vaccine passport.
The vaccine passport is to force you into the social credit system.
The social credit system is to force you into obeying the government.

 

[Earburner]

The merchants are the merchants of the rebuilt city of Babylon that will rise to become a great world power seat. Before the antichrist moves on Jerusalem it will be his capital city. Babylon has been rebuilt to a very large measure. Even the temple as been rebuilt with a scale down, using close to 6 million bricks from the original grand city.

Mystery Babylon- the mother of all harlots is the very religious system founded by Nimrod that has remained alive and well in many religions (including Christendom).

Of course, you are probably referencing something like the following site:

Babylon is coming back to life, with its famed Ishtar Gate to be restored by this summer

A new World Monuments Fund project in conjunction with the US embassy in Baghdad aims to repair Iraqi cultural heritage as part of the Future of Babylon project

www.theartnewspaper.com

If anything, it will become a replica of the city of Babylon, and probably function only as something like a living museum.
In that capacity, it will have no real place in the world, being altogether dysfunctional.

I suggest that we continue looking elsewhere for "the woman" who has fallen, and is carried by the Beast, and not the Beast riding the "fallen woman", as most want to believe.
Rev. 17
[7] And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.

 

[Cristo Rei]

People in Australia were forced to take the experimental Jab or full on face loosing their Job, that was the fact !

But how easy was it done ! that's the real issue in Australia, USA was much better and not total Nazi like truly Dictated over the People.

I have no faith in the Australian people at all now. for I know we could have a Hitler dominate over us easy as, because the majority are morons that have no hope, for they swallow lies gladly.

Then back to the COVID Jab, it's total BS and never saved anyone ! No factual proof of such at all.

How are you my friend? ‍
Hope your doing well

 

[Peterlag]

Every Message Counts...

Black text/marker for behind toilet doors
Posters in shops & on street poles
Spray cans for the brave
Letter box leaflets to households

WE MUST GET THE WORD OUT - do whatever you can.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

How are you my friend? ‍
Hope your doing well

Wonderful to hear from you again, dear Cristo.
All good here.
Your self.
You Got another car and a Caravan now, I hear.

 

[Cristo Rei]

Wonderful to hear from you again, dear Cristo.
All good here.
Your self.
You Got another car and a Caravan now, I hear.

Ye I don't want to put down much personal information on here anymore but I'm ok.

I'm not where i was anymore though I won't disclose my position on this open forum.

I tried to send you a PM with more info but wasn't able to. Try to PM me and I'll tell you more

I heard you and your wife have disagreements on room temperature...
Ah it could be worse at least you have a wife to love and be loved

 

[Ronald Nolette]

You see it in parts. Many of us see it as one. Here's an example of how many see it as one...

The pandemic is to force you to get the vaccine.
The vaccine is to force you to get the vaccine passport.
The vaccine passport is to force you into the social credit system.
The social credit system is to force you into obeying the government.

And I know all that and IT MAY BE true- you simply cannot know that unless you were there and heard what the full agenda is.

The vaccine passport is now a dead issue so there goes a link in that chain.

YOu are already in the social credit system whether you know it or not.

And we are called in Romans to obey civil govt. (with the caveat of course as long as they do not command us to disobey Scripture.)

But none of this has one whit of reason as to the medical goodness or badness of the shot! You are still on the politics and not whether the shot itself is a dangerous thing.