Another diversion away from the discussion of God appointing preachers.
Which you entirely disagree that God appoints preachers, otherwise you would agree with scripture.
This is not talking about Ephesians 4:11-13, but your spiritual blindness won't allow you to see that.
Verse 11
And he gave (κα αυτος εδωκεν). First aorist active indicative of διδωμ. In 1 Corinthians 12:28 (NAS)
28 And God has appointed in the church, first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, various kinds of tongues.
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1 Corinthians 12:28 Paul uses εθετο (more common verb, appointed), but here repeats εδωκεν from the quotation in verse Ephesians 4:8 (NAS)
8 Therefore it says, " When He ascended on high , He led captive a host of captives , And He gave gifts to men ."
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Ephesians 4:8. There are four groups (τους μεν, τους δε three times, as the direct object of εδωκεν). The titles are in the predicate accusative (αποστολουσ, προφητασ, ποιμενας κα διδασκαλους). Each of these words occurs in 1 Corinthians 12:28 (NAS)
28 And God has appointed in the church, first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, various kinds of tongues.
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1 Corinthians 12:28 (which see for discussion) except ποιμενας (shepherds). This word ποιμην is from a root meaning to protect. Jesus said the good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep (John 10:11 (NAS)
11 "I am the good shepherd; the good shepherd lays down His life for the sheep.
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John 10:11) and called himself the Good Shepherd. In Hebrews 13:20 (NAS)
20 Now the God of peace, who brought up from the dead the great Shepherd of the sheep through the blood of the eternal covenant, even Jesus our Lord,
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Hebrews 13:20 Christ is the Great Shepherd (cf. 1 Peter 2:25 (NAS)
25 For you were continually straying like sheep, but now you have returned to the Shepherd and Guardian of your souls.
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1 Peter 2:25). Only here are preachers termed shepherds (Latin
pastores) in the N.T. But the verb ποιμαινω, to shepherd, is employed by Jesus to Peter (John 21:16 (NAS)
16 He *said to him again a second time, "Simon, son of John, do you love Me?" He *said to Him, "Yes, Lord; You know that I love You." He *said to him, "Shepherd My sheep."
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John 21:16), by Peter to other ministers (1 Peter 5:2 (NAS)
2 shepherd the flock of God among you, exercising oversight not under compulsion, but voluntarily, according to the will of God; and not for sordid gain, but with eagerness;
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1 Peter 5:2), by Paul to the elders (bishops) of Ephesus (Acts 20:28 (NAS)
28 Be on guard for yourselves and for all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood.
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Acts 20:28). Here Paul groups "shepherds and teachers" together. All these gifts can be found in one man, though not always. Some have only one.
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Verse 12
For the perfecting (προς τον καταρτισμον). Late and rare word (in Galen in medical sense, in papyri for house-furnishing), only here in N.T., though καταρτισις in 2 Corinthians 13:9 (NAS)
9 For we rejoice when we ourselves are weak but you are strong; this we also pray for, that you be made complete.
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2 Corinthians 13:9, both from καταρτιζω, to mend (Matthew 4:21 (NAS)
21 Going on from there He saw two other brothers, James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother, in the boat with Zebedee their father, mending their nets; and He called them.
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Matthew 4:21; Galatians 6:1 (NAS)
1 Brethren, even if anyone is caught in any trespass, you who are spiritual, restore such a one in a spirit of gentleness; each one looking to yourself, so that you too will not be tempted.
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Galatians 6:1). "For the mending (repair) of the saints."
Unto the building up (εις οικοδομην). See Ephesians 2:21 (NAS)
21 in whom the whole building, being fitted together, is growing into a holy temple in the Lord,
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Ephesians 2:21. This is the ultimate goal in all these varied gifts, "building up."
Ephesians 4, Robertson's Word Pictures in the New Testament, One of over 125 Bible commentaries freely available, this commentary, verse-by-verse, paints word pictures to describe the New Testament
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