How are we to reckon ourselves as being dead to sin?

[ChristisGod]

We are on earth my friend, Not in heaven, We will walk in heaven and know Jesus when we see him, I showed you that passage yesterday.

Every born again child of God is anointed and sealed with the spirit. every one of them have the ability and powert to walk in the spirit

Stop trying to puff yourself up as so much higher than other people Thats what the pharisees did..

Yes every believer has the anointing form the Holy One- Christianity 101. Someone is living in De Nile

 

[VictoryinJesus]

Do you walk in the light in the spirit daily?

That is a good question.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

That is a good question.

I know when I am not. and I am in my head. I get a nudge and am reminded. I know this is from God. When I pray, I asl God to continue to help me, especially on these hard days.

I also know I have times when I am in my head for days, and although I feel the nudge, I ignore it (In my flesh). and the longer I stay, in this state, the harder it is to come out. Thats also why we need to be involved in a group. so we can confess and be healed also.. I meet with a group of men twice a week.. One is a discipleship meeting, the other is a prayer group. But we are always reminded and encouraged to look to the things above and walk in the spirit. getting out of our heads. and look to Jesus and look to heaven, As paul did. and it is through this knowledge that paul and us, can look at trial and tribulation and suffering as a momentary light affliction. Because we are focused on the cross and the eternal perspective that our God will never leave nor forsake us.

 

[Johann]

This both a misinformed and reactionary claim.

As you are misinformed and reactory to the others--

 

[Johann]

Say what?

All we need to do is walk in Him HERE and NOW!

“As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him: Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving.

Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.” (Colossians 2:6-8)

Nicely done brother--

 

[Johann]

Have you read the NT yet? Paul speaks of the high calling and winning Christ.

14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.

You will not respond to this...but what is the verse speaking of? ( I ask rhetorically because I would be shocked at ANY honesty beyond a dogmatic rebuttal that is spoken in ignorance).

Hope this helps

You have caught @Christophany there--

1) "I press toward the mark" (kata skopon doko) "I, leaning forward, follow according to a mark," standard; 1Co_9:24; Heb_12:1. The race of life to be run is a marathon, for life, not an hundred yard dash, Rev_2:10.

2) "For the prize" (eis to Brabeion) "with relation to the prize." The prize is not salvation, eternal life, itself, but it is a special award which the Lord will give to those who faithfully run the race of an obedient life of service to Christ to the end, 2Ti_4:7-8.

3) "Of the high calling of God" (tes ano kleseos tou theau) “of the calling (from) above of God;" to a crown of life, pertaining to a life of faithful service to the end, 1Co_3:8; 1Pe_5:10. Each believer is called to the High calling, to hear a "well done," for faithful service, whether he have one or ten talents, Mat_25:15; Rev_22:12.

4) "In Christ Jesus" (en Christo lesou) "in Jesus Christ" Salvation's call is universal, to the Corporate human race, including all, excluding none. One's being "in Christ," "in his Son," is conditioned on his personal, voluntary, volitional choice of Jesus Christ as his personal Savior in time, Joh_1:11-12; Joh_3:16; Joh_3:18; Joh_8:24; 1Jn_5:1. The high calling of God to service, in and through the Church, by Christ Jesus, is to all who will obey in:
a) hearing – Rom_10:17;
b) repenting – Luk_13:3; Act_17:30-31; 2Co_7:10.
c) believing to salvation (Then) – Joh_3:14-16; John 18; Joh_5:24; Eph_2:8-9.
d) 'Being baptized to prepare to walk the new life in and through the Church, which he loved and purchased with his own blood, Act_20:28; Eph_5:25; Eph_3:21.

trusting he should, through grace, be kept all along, maugre all difficulties, in the hand of Christ, till upon his account he should be fully possessed of all that was aimed at, even that which is styled the prize, or victorious palm of our high calling; and the Christians’ may well be termed a high calling, considering their heavenly birth when called, and laid hold of by Christ, Joh_1:13, and the purchased inheritance eternally settled upon such spiritual, high-born princes, Eph_1:14 Rev_1:6; who are by one oblation perfected for ever, Heb_10:14; which will appear most glorious when they are raised up in Christ, who will then give out all the salvation he hath called us unto.

 

[ChristisGod]

Have you read the NT yet? Paul speaks of the high calling and winning Christ.

14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.

You will not respond to this...but what is the verse speaking of? ( I ask rhetorically because I would be shocked at ANY honesty beyond a dogmatic rebuttal that is spoken in ignorance).

Hope this helps

Much love

More unbiblical nonsense. There is no higher, lower calling as you made that up with a bad translation. The KJV translated it wrong.


Phil 3:14-
I press on toward the goal to win the prize for which God has called me heavenward in Christ Jesus.
Paul is talking about the race we are in and finishing the race as he mentions elsewhere where we run to win the prize. That is in eternity, not here. Its future. so there is no high calling as you claim- we are to press forward, to endure the race and run to win.


High calling is a bad translation, the word means above, up, things above, heaven- not a higher walk.


anó: up, above
Original Word: ἄνω
Part of Speech: Adverb
Transliteration: anó
Phonetic Spelling: (an'-o)
Definition: up, above
Usage: up, above, up to the top, up to the brim, things above, heaven, the heavenly region.

hope this helps !!!

 

[Nhisname]

True. And that supports the idea that we are carrying our own cross by doing this. We are in control by our reckoning...by an act of the will.

Again true....again supporting the idea that we are called to DO what is right...hence the proper reckoning with the human will to obey God.

I don't know how many see that actually being crucified and dead to sin as an act of divine grace is on a whole other level to this.

Jesus didn't have to die to make us want to try doing better. His crucifixion and resurrection are meant to empower us to do as He did...exactly as He did. By grace through faith.

No Jesus didn't have to die but he did out of obedience to his Father, for our righteousness in him and through him. Sin was established through disobedience from Adam and conquered by obedience through Christ. What a wonderful savior we serve!

 

[VictoryinJesus]

Do you walk in the light in the spirit daily?

I’ve been thinking about your question. Immediately I want to flog myself and retreat and answer “no”.

But Matthew 5:48, and Luke 6:36 clarifies, I think.

Be perfect as your Father in Heaven is perfect.
Be Merciful as your Father in Heaven is merciful.

to me Matthew 5:47, Luke 6:35, And 2 Corinthians 13:3-10 all speak of the same.
Perfection =Merciful as He is Merciful to the ungrateful, His loving not only those who love Him.

Matthew and Luke both speak of the blind leading the blind, and both Fall into a ditch. And about the body being full of Light. I can’t find where it says there is a little darkness still but instead if there is any darkness then the whole body is full of darkness. If the eye is light, then the whole body is full of Light?

You asked “do you walk in the light of the spirit daily?”
I prefer you ask me “is there any Light?”

 

[ChristisGod]

I’ve been thinking about your question. Immediately I want to flog myself and retreat and answer “no”.

But Matthew 5:48, and Luke 6:36 clarifies, I think.

Be perfect as your Father in Heaven is perfect.
Be Merciful as your Father in Heaven is merciful.

to me Matthew 5:47, Luke 6:35, And 2 Corinthians 13:3-10 all speak of the same.
Perfection =Merciful as He is Merciful to the ungrateful, His loving not only those who love Him.

Matthew and Luke both speak of the blind leading the blind, and both Fall into a ditch. And about the body being full of Light. I can’t find where it says there is a little darkness still but instead if there is any darkness then the whole body is full of darkness. If the eye is light, then the whole body is full of Light?

You asked “do you walk in the light of the spirit daily?”
I prefer you ask me “is there any Light?”

He is asking you something he doesn't do himself. If you are trusting in Jesus alone for your salvation and desiring to please Him then you are walking in Him and not in the flesh. You are living in the Spirit and not in the flesh. You are in the Light if you are in Him. He is the Light, the Life, The Way, the Truth. So you are in the Light, the Truth, in Him, in Christ. Those who are not are none of His. Believers are those who abide in the Vine- John 15. Don't let Epi's spiritual mumbo jumbo higher walk non biblical ideas fool you. Jesus is our Victory over sin, death and the devil. None of those things have any power over believers since Jesus defeated those enemies.

hope this helps !!!

 

[Episkopos]

He is asking you something he doesn't do himself.

You are speaking of eternally Grateful here (the one that VIJ was responding to). I'm surprised you would have this kind of discernment. One of the few times you are actually right about something.

If you are trusting in Jesus alone for your salvation and desiring to please Him then you are walking in Him and not in the flesh. You are living in the Spirit and not in the flesh.

As long as you are not trusting in Godzilla or Thor...but only Jesus....you can claim to be walking in the Spirit.

Don't let Epi's spiritual mumbo jumbo higher walk non biblical ideas fool you. Jesus is our Victory over sin, death and the devil. None of those things have any power over believers since Jesus defeated those enemies.

Don't let me fool you with ideas of power from heaven. Just trust in your own beliefs about what Jesus did for all people...name it. and claim it!

 

[ChristisGod]

You are speaking of eternally Grateful here (the one that VIJ was responding to). I'm surprised you would have this kind of discernment. One of the few times you are actually right about something.


As long as you are not trusting in Godzilla or Thor...but only Jesus....you can claim to be walking in the Spirit.

Don't let me fool you with ideas of power from heaven. Just trust in your own beliefs about what Jesus did for all people...name it. and claim it!

All you do is provide self proclaimed commentary , use biblical words and twist their meaning and avoid answering probing questions to defend your beliefs. You point people to yourself and not Christ, to your higher walk and not Jesus. To the flesh and not the Spirit. Any believer who disagrees with you gets condemned and you abuse them with ad hominems. A real spiritual man would not do such things they would be building others up in the faith and not tearing them down.

hope this helps !!!

 

[Episkopos]

All you do is provide self proclaimed commentary , use biblical words and twist their meaning and avoid answering probing questions to defend your beliefs. You point people to yourself and not Christ, to your higher walk and not Jesus. To the flesh and not the Spirit. Any believer who disagrees with you gets condemned and you abuse them with ad hominems. A real spiritual man would not do such things they would be building others up in the faith and not tearing them down.

hope this helps !!!

8 Be not afraid of their faces: for I am with thee to deliver thee, saith the Lord.
9 Then the Lord put forth his hand, and touched my mouth. And the Lord said unto me, Behold, I have put my words in thy mouth.
10 See, I have this day set thee over the nations and over the kingdoms, to root out, and to pull down, and to destroy, and to throw down, to build, and to plant.

 

[ChristisGod]

Don't let me fool you with ideas of power from heaven. Just trust in your own beliefs about what Jesus did for all people...name it. and claim it!

You have no power from heaven. The fruit speaks for itself as to where the origin of your ideas are coming from. Its not from the Spirit of God that's for sure. You have failed the testing of the spirits several times when asked. You cannot even confess Jesus is a man in heaven. The spirit of antichrist denies Jesus is a man and touts He is a spirit with no human body. It denies the very heart of the gospel the Resurrection. So you preach a false gospel and christ.

hope this helps !!!

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I’ve been thinking about your question. Immediately I want to flog myself and retreat and answer “no”.

But Matthew 5:48, and Luke 6:36 clarifies, I think.

Be perfect as your Father in Heaven is perfect.
Be Merciful as your Father in Heaven is merciful.

to me Matthew 5:47, Luke 6:35, And 2 Corinthians 13:3-10 all speak of the same.
Perfection =Merciful as He is Merciful to the ungrateful, His loving not only those who love Him.

Matthew and Luke both speak of the blind leading the blind, and both Fall into a ditch. And about the body being full of Light. I can’t find where it says there is a little darkness still but instead if there is any darkness then the whole body is full of darkness. If the eye is light, then the whole body is full of Light?

You asked “do you walk in the light of the spirit daily?”
I prefer you ask me “is there any Light?”

The reason I asked if you walked in the light IN the SPIRIT daily is because i would find it odd that a child of God does not walk in the spirit for any length of time.. Setting our mind on the things of the spirit. and in doing so, we do not fulfill the lusts of the flesh.

I believe in Both Matt and Luke Jesus is talking about a lifestyle. If My light is evil/damage then it can not process light. and it will be dark.

in Matt 6 - if the eye is good (clear or healthy) then it sees clearly. and light will light the whole body

a person who has yet to come to Christ. has damaged eyes, he can't see. Once he is saved, His eyes are healed so he can see.

It does not mean he will lover perfectly, or be sinless. But he can see. and light is able to enter.

I am not sure what you were trying to say with 2 cor 13..

as for the light, again, as you said, it is Christ. who is "in us" All of Gods children have access to this light. this light is what allows us and empowers us to be a light in the world. to help draw others to Christ.

we are called to do this based on the love of God which was given to us the moment we believed.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

You are speaking of eternally Grateful here (the one that VIJ was responding to). I'm surprised you would have this kind of discernment. One of the few times you are actually right about something.

Actually EG walks in the spirit and in the light as often as he can.. Unlike some people who claim they have only done it once or twice?

As long as you are not trusting in Godzilla or Thor...but only Jesus....you can claim to be walking in the Spirit.

Don't let me fool you with ideas of power from heaven. Just trust in your own beliefs about what Jesus did for all people...name it. and claim it!

We trust in Jesus

When will you?

 

[VictoryinJesus]

I am not sure what you were trying to say with 2 cor 13..

Mathew 5, and Luke 6. About how can you lead when blind, for will not both then fall into a ditch?

2 Corinthians 2:13 to me shows all of those in that passage in Matthew and Luke. Especially doing good to those who call you reprobate, as one who fails.

Paraphrasing what it says to me:

You seek proof of the Light in me.
Examine yourself whether there is Light in you.
I trust you will see we walk in the Light and are not in darkness—not as others which corrupt the word of God.

I pray to God you do no wrong, not that we will appear approved by you—-but that we wish you would walk in the Light…even though we appear unto you as those walking in darkness. Even as those corrupting the word of God.
As liars, yet making many rich.

Do what is right.
This we wish (Hope for), even your perfection.

Which in the above walk in the Light?
Which walk in darkness still, called unto Light?

 

[ChristisGod]

Actually EG walks in the spirit and in the light as often as he can.. Unlike some people who claim they have only done it once or twice?

We trust in Jesus

When will you?

the pharisees trusted in their self righteousness and promoted themselves and their ideas and traditions- true believers point others to Christ and not themselves. pharisees tear others down to make themselves look good whereas believers point people to Christ and build others up in the faith. These fruits whether good or bad are easily identifiable. Its what Jesus said you will know them by their fruits. Good fruit is easy to see and taste and bad fruit easy to see and taste. One is sweet and the other bitter, nasty and rotten.

 

[marks]

The reason I asked if you walked in the light IN the SPIRIT daily is because i would find it odd that a child of God does not walk in the spirit for any length of time.. Setting our mind on the things of the spirit. and in doing so, we do not fulfill the lusts of the flesh.

When you say, walking in the Spirit, what do you mean? How do you know whether you are or not?

Much love!

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Mathew 5, and Luke 6. About how can you lead when blind, for will not both then fall into a ditch?

2 Corinthians 2:13 to me shows all of those in that passage in Matthew and Luke. Especially doing good to those who call you reprobate, as one who fails.

Paraphrasing what it says to me:

You seek proof of the Light in me.
Examine yourself whether there is Light in you.
I trust you will see we walk in the Light and are not in darkness—not as others which corrupt the word of God.

I pray to God you do no wrong, not that we will appear approved by you—-but that we wish you would walk in the Light…even though we appear unto you as those walking in darkness.

Do what is right.
This we wish (Hope for), even your perfection.

Which in the above walk in the Light?
Which walk in darkness still, called unto Light?

in 2 cor. I think he is doing as many do. and telling people to examin themselves.

If your saved, you would show some light

If your not. This to would show. and then with this knowledge, you need to re-examine your position in Christ.

I do not see what you see in Matt 6. He speak so flight in matt 6 is that what you were talking about?

matt 5 is Jesus rebuking the jewish pharisees and religions, saying you think you keep the law. Well let me show you.. The law says this,, but I tell you that. If you love just those who love you. What good is that. even the heathen do that. etc etc..

When he says be perfect. He is showing them what is required. If you think you are good because you claim to keep the law. Well here is Gods requirement, Be perfect as your father in heaven is perfect..

Question. When you are doing what God wants you to do. How are you doing this?