Jesus Does not Come to Destroy all flesh

[robert derrick]

You can deny what is for today "that day" spoken of in the scriptures. Nonetheless I have declared nothing that has not been written or foretold.

For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised.

If we don't believe in the resurrection of the dead, then we don't believe in the resurrection of Jesus Christ, which is unbelief in the gospel of Jesus Christ. It is necessary to believe in the resurrection of the dead, in order to be saved. The faith of Jesus and the word of God is what saves is, not our own faith alone that does not believe in the Scriptures as written.

 

[robert derrick]

And what of interpretations, apostacy, corrections, and all truth, were these things not written as yet to come?

If Scripture confirms it, it is true. If Scripture contradicts it, it is not true. If at the time, no Scripture confirms or denies it, then it may be true, but it cannot be yet taught as true.

Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

I am trying to exhort you to discipline your abundant intelligence with Scripture. We can share things as a possibility if we want, but not speak of it as though it were Scripture of God, unless Scripture plainly says so.

Saying we have special revelation beside Scripture, is the same as having sacred tradition beside Scripture. If we can receive revelation of God not found in Scripture, then we must accept Mary worship as truth of God.

I believe the last antichrist may be a past false prophet raised by Christ from the dead to live again on earth, like a wicked Lazarus, and I'm almost certain I can prove it by Scripture, but not yet. So, I can share it, but I don't prophecy it.

All truth to be known by man on earth today, is found in Scripture of God. The Spirit guiding us into all truth, is guiding us into all truth of Scripture. The lifelong study of the the believer is learning how to rightly divide all the word of truth, so as to be able to teach all the truth of Scripture.

It seemed good to me also, having had perfect understanding of all things from the very first, to write unto thee in order, most excellent Theophilus, That thou mightest know the certainty of those things, wherein thou hast been instructed.

Having perfect understanding of all things, is having perfect knowledge of all Scripture, which is why God has given His written word by the prophets and apostles. Certain knowledge of truth is certain knowledge of Scripture.

That is how we are doers of the word of God, and not doers of our own word and imagination.

The only new revelation to seek, is new understanding of what is written. And in this life, Scripture will never cease to provide new understanding and revelation of God's truth written therein.

The Spirit of truth freely gives new revelation and inspiration of Scripture, to those that seek the truth from Scripture only. That is the lifelong study of the approved child of God. Not trying to come up with new ideas, that Scripture speaks nothing of. Especially not by revelation among the stars.

But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

Though thou exalt thyself as the eagle, and though thou set thy nest among the stars, thence will I bring thee down, saith the LORD.

I'm not interested in what's not written, but only what's written, that I had not understood before. That is adding knowledge of God and His word, not listening to people talking about our imaginations, that God has never spoken of.

They have built also the high places of Baal, to burn their sons with fire for burnt offerings unto Baal, which I commanded not, nor spake it, neither came it into my mind:

If we begin to depart from Scripture to find truth for ourselves, then we are on a road of destruction. Especially if we begin to twist Scripture to try and make it true.

Show me something hard to be understand by sound reasoning of Scripture, and I'll thank you for it. Otherwise, I will search the Scriptures to prove it false, which in itself brings revelation of truth in Scripture. The exercise of rightly reproving heresy, is in itself a great source for more understanding of Scripture.

The discipline of only teaching, preaching, revealing, and prophesying what can be proven true by Scripture, is the discipleship of Christ. All else is religion, revelation, and philosophy of man. Which can be fine in itself, unless it is taught as Scripture of God. Then it is heresy and destructive to the faith of Jesus that saves our souls.

That is how antichrists come, by going out from the apostles' doctrine of Scripture, into other things that are not found and confirmed and proven by the written word of God. They then begin to proselytize people to their own Christian faith, gospel, and church, rather than building up believers in the faith and word of God.

I've known two such antichrists building their own churches and organization of churches, that lure the sheep from the voice of Jesus only, to their own voice of headship. They have become a cultish mess of pastor-worship and idolatry.

I know how it all starts, and can easily see it a mile off. It's as simple as contradicting the least of Scripture by someone's own mind, imagination, and revelation, and refusing to be corrected by the least of Scripture. If we can't be corrected by the writings of the prophets and apostles, then we can't be led by the Spirit of truth into all truth.

Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the LORD is near in the valley of decision.

I share this with you brother, because I believe your testimony of godly living, which in the end is all that matters. But I also know you have a fine mind, and need warning against going down the road of trying to reveal 'new truth', that Scripture does not confirm. Our revelations must be conformed to the Bible, if we are to teach them as true. And especially if we are to follow them in our manner of life.

It is not expedient for me doubtless to glory. I will come to visions and revelations of the Lord.

How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter.

Of such an one will I glory: yet of myself I will not glory, but in mine infirmities.

Our only glorying ought be in our godly lives of Christ by grace, not in revelations, that may be of God or of a lying angelic spirit. In any case, it is not lawful to utter them as true, if they are not provable by Scripture of truth. We know this rule, because Scripture says it.

But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

 

[robert derrick]

That doesn't look like a king sitting on a earthly throne ruling to me, smiles!

Revelation 2:27KJV
27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.

True. Killing everyone in sight, until there are none left to kill, is not ruling nor governing over anyone. It's just mass execution.

The Lord was not ruling over the wicked as He flooded them all to death. He was ruling over Noah in preparing the ark.

 

[Truth7t7]

True. Killing everyone in sight, until there are none left to kill, is not ruling nor governing over anyone. It's just mass execution.

The Lord was not ruling over the wicked as He flooded them all to death. He was ruling over Noah in preparing the ark.

Your Living In Denial Of Biblical Truth

Jesus Is Revealed In Firey Destruction In Vengence, Are The Scriptures Below A Lie, Simple, Clear, Easy To Understand

Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

2 Thessalonians 1:7-9KJV
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

 

[ScottA]

For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised.

If we don't believe in the resurrection of the dead, then we don't believe in the resurrection of Jesus Christ, which is unbelief in the gospel of Jesus Christ. It is necessary to believe in the resurrection of the dead, in order to be saved. The faith of Jesus and the word of God is what saves is, not our own faith alone that does not believe in the Scriptures as written.

No, you misunderstand. You are mixing darkness with light, flesh with spirit. But no, each is born and lives separately. This is why "we who are alive and remain" (in the flesh) are counselled to "walk in the spirit" rather than the flesh. Such is the war between the flesh and the spirit. The gospel of Jesus is not that we are reborn of the flesh, but born out of the flesh to walk in the spirit until we too commit only our spirit to God having laid down the flesh as Jesus also did.

But don't mistake Jesus' would-be resurrection in the flesh with spiritual resurrection only portrayed in His ascension. He was not "resurrected" in the flesh per se, but raised from the dead by the spirit of God, a mere demonstration of His victory over death--but no flesh enters the kingdom of God. The flesh returns to the dust, and only the spirit returns to God who gave it. This is what is written. All else is misinterpretation and misunderstanding.

 

[Truth7t7]

He was not "resurrected" in the flesh per se, but raised from the dead by the spirit of God,

Your false claim is heretical IMHO, Jesus was raised in a tangible body of flesh and bone, that could enter a room with doors shut, that ate physical food in this earthly world, that could vanish out of human sight

Luke 24:39-43KJV
39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
40 And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet.
41 And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?
42 And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.
43 And he took it, and did eat before them.

 

[ScottA]

If Scripture confirms it, it is true. If Scripture contradicts it, it is not true. If at the time, no Scripture confirms or denies it, then it may be true, but it cannot be yet taught as true.

Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

I am trying to exhort you to discipline your abundant intelligence with Scripture. We can share things as a possibility if we want, but not speak of it as though it were Scripture of God, unless Scripture plainly says so.

Saying we have special revelation beside Scripture, is the same as having sacred tradition beside Scripture. If we can receive revelation of God not found in Scripture, then we must accept Mary worship as truth of God...

The scriptures are not enough--the scriptures declare and confirm it.

All language (including the scriptures) has been confused by God (intentionally) that they would only be discerned spiritually. In addition, what has been interpreted of the scriptures was interpreted by "false teachers" entering into the church, as foretold. That does not make for "private interpretations" to be true or false--the scriptures are not private--they are polluted. These are the facts.

Which does not mean the scriptures are wrong, it just means that the scriptures alone are as much as "foolishness", just as it is also written.

Therefore, I am not going to read the rest of what you have written, as it is all under literary only confusion. Acknowledge that the greater word of God is not written on parchment and that the scriptures therefore are only confirmation, and perhaps we can continue.

 

[ScottA]

Your false claim is heretical IMHO, Jesus was raised in a tangible body of flesh and bone, that could enter a room with doors shut, that ate physical food in this earthly world, that could vanish out of human sight

Luke 24:39-43KJV
39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
40 And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet.
41 And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?
42 And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.
43 And he took it, and did eat before them.

I don't expect you to understand that there is actually nothing "tangible" in the entire creation, for it is written the "God created man in his own image."

Thus, my statement was not according to your world-centered reality beliefs, but rather to the reality that resides in God alone.

--So, yes, an "image" can walk through walls and appear at any given time and place by the same power of God who created all flesh, as it is all the same. You are just not yet up to comprehending it yet...and just like those who killed those of old sent by God to reveal the truth, you too are also prone to reject. Even so, I have said nothing against the truth you only think you understand, but am for it and in accord with it.

Isaiah 53:1​

Who has believed our report? And to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?​

 

[Truth7t7]

I don't expect you to understand that there is actually nothing "tangible" in the entire creation, for it is written the "God created man in his own image."

Your claim is false, this world is factually tangible, you promote a Metaphysical Mystical Gobbly Goop theology, found no place in my Holy Bible "Fact"

Did Jesus Christ literally die on the Cross of Calvary and shed his precious blood for the world's sins, or was that just another one of Scott's claims of "Illusion", Smiles!

 

[ScottA]

Your claim is false, this world is factually tangible, you promote a Metaphysical Mystical Gobbly Goop theology, found no place in my Holy Bible "Fact"

You mock the unseen Spirit, equating Him with "Metaphysical Mystical Gobbly Goop", and spew hatred toward what you do not understand.

Go ahead, keep it up.

"There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth."

 

[robert derrick]

That would mean then you disagree... with Apostle Paul...

1 Cor 15:44-50
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.
48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.
50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
KJV

1 Cor 15:51-53
51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
KJV

Ok. So you quote Scriptural doctrine, that no flesh and blood inherits the everlasting kingdom of God while still in natural bodies. Good. That's the same principle for us all on earth, and included Jesus.

And you also include the Scriptural prophecy all saints will be resurrected into immortal bodies at His coming again. Good again. But they say nothing about what happens afterward.

The END of this present flesh world is what God's consuming fire will do on the last day when Jesus returns.

But we see a false prophecy of happening afterward, based upon the Scriptures, that say nothing about it.

Zechariah 14 has a very graphic representation of the destruction of flesh on that day.

True, by the brightness of His coming and spirit of His mouth, upon all the armies gathered in Judea to make war with Him.

And this shall be the plague wherewith the LORD will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem;

Then the fowls of the air are called from all over the earth to that area and finish them to the bones. And if there are birds that chew bones, then the bones too.

It's just so much easier to let Scripture interpret prophecy of Scripture. It also makes is so simple to reject false prophecy of men's own minds.

And Apostle Paul was emphatic that 'flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, neither does corruption (flesh) inherit incorruption (spiritual body).

Exactly, none of us can inherit the everlasting kingdom of God in heaven, until resurrected from the dead in graves on earth.

It's the same doctrine during His Millennium reign.

I get so tired of fake preachers pushing the old false Jew traditions that when our flesh dies that we sleep in a casket in the ground! And then at the resurrection we are given a brand new flesh body! That is NOT what God's Word teaches!

Oh, I see. your teaching against the resurrection of the dead. Well, if the dead rise not, then our faith is in vain.

For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised: And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins. Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished.

The souls now in the presence of the Lord are not asleep. Just their bodies in the earth.

And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

Time for the golden rule of interpreting Scripture again: Let Scripture interpret prophecy of Scripture, and then we can easily teach it.

And speaking of sleep, if you're so tired, then go to sleep and wake up fresh from your meltdown, and try again fresh another time.

 

[robert derrick]

Did Jesus Christ literally die on the Cross of Calvary and shed his precious blood for the world's sins, or was that just another one of Scott's claims of "Illusion", Smiles!

The teaching of image-only is indeed similar to that of spirit-only. He does confess Jesus Christ is come in the flesh, but it's just an example of how we can wind up teaching things, that we never would agree with. Sometimes, when our own words are stripped to the bare bones, as you've done here, we are left with a blank stare.

We either receive correction to amend our words, or just keep plowing ahead into the ditch.

 

[robert derrick]

More ducking around the biblical detail and defaulting to your own opinions. You have to do that. Please address the Scriptures presented.

I already have, and you won't acknowledge them the next time. But thanks for saying please. I respectfully decline.

But I would like to see you actually try and correct the soundness of a point I make. So, if you want, one at a time, we can give it a try.

And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

I say this:
1. He will smite the nations and tread them fiercely.
2. He will rule them not fiercely trodden to death.

Otherwise, there is none to rule.

What say you.

 

[robert derrick]

Your Living In Denial Of Biblical Truth

Jesus Is Revealed In Firey Destruction In Vengence, Are The Scriptures Below A Lie, Simple, Clear, Easy To Understand

Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

Try quoting in context of all Scripture:

But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

As in the days of Noah, so is His coming again: Suddenly, while everyone is still partying unawares.

To apply the manner of His coming to the days of Noah and Lot, is to say He comes again with a flood and fire. And He has promised not to flood the earth again.

Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

And afterward, there will be them left.

2 Thessalonians 1:7-9KJV
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

To them that go out of their way to persecute Christians on earth, and then gather to make war with the Lamb...

Any of these points you want to show aren't sound? I'd be glad to see it.

 

[robert derrick]

No, you misunderstand. You are mixing darkness with light, flesh with spirit.

Flesh is not darkness nor sin. Just natural flesh and blood like dust and grass.

I see how your demonization of naturally mortal flesh, is what leads you to teach there is no resurrection of the dead bodies from the grave.

Because you say the natural body is the old man of sin, then you say that body can't be resurrected from the dead into the kingdom of God.

But no, each is born and lives separately.

Oh my goodness, brother, you have just revealed the source teaching for all OSAS separation of the soul from the deeds of the body.

You are saying, that even as the spirit is separate from the flesh, which is true, you are also then saying our walk in the spirit is now separate from walking in the flesh.

You are saying we can walk after the spirit and the flesh at the same time, yet separately!! One in heaven and one on earth. Incredible brother, just incredible. That little bit of artful reasoning is just beautifully so bad.

You are teaching a spirit-only walking after the Spirit, that is separated from a body-only walking after the flesh!

Brother, just as the law is good, if it be used lawfully, so is intelligence good, if it be used rightly.

This is the same manner of prophecy as those that teach spirit-only coming again, resurrection, and millennium on earth. I am only glad that you do not also prophecy with a vicious spirit, that the Lord returns to beat to death every person on earth with His rod of iron. (Though none of them admit, that if that is true, then they will be called upon to do the same with Him. Cowardly is what I call it.)

This is why "we who are alive and remain" (in the flesh) are counselled to "walk in the spirit" rather than the flesh.

Exactly. Which cannot be at the same time. It's either/or only. The spirit cannot be walking after the spirit, while the body is walking after the flesh.

The gospel of Jesus is not that we are reborn of the flesh,

Correct. We are not born from the mother's womb again, nor is our body regenerated until the resurrection.

but born out of the flesh to walk in the spirit

And here you have it brother. Born again out of the flesh, and so our spirit is out of the body into heaven, where we walk after the spirit in heavenly places, and separate from the deeds of the body on earth..

Brother, you are teaching a Christian life of out-of-body experience! You are one of those angels ascending and descending upon the church of the son of man!!! That are so beautiful and cute!!

It is as a god knowing both good and evil, and bringing down revelations from above, that are both not Bible, and yet true! New revelation from heaven, to be taught beside Scripture. Now, I actually have your mind in my hands.

If you are still living a godly life, then God bless you brother, but if you are not, then your in real deep danger, by justifying it as being body experience only, while being pure in spirit-experience only.

t until we too commit only our spirit to God having laid down the flesh as Jesus also did.

Which is only at the death of the body. We do not commit our souls to God in heaven now, while laying down our life for Christ on earth, as though our souls are resurrected into heaven and separate from our bodies remaining alive on earth.

Brother, the heavenly places we sit in now, are our hearts and souls within our bodies on earth, not in heaven. When the Lord enters our hearts on earth, then so does His heavenly kingdom down here. Our hearts and souls have not yet been resurrected and raised into the throneroom of God. Our heavenly seats are here on earth, even as our soul and spirit remains housed in earthen vessels.

Brother, We can travel the celestial realms all you want, but so long as our body remains here on earth, the deeds of our body are not 'separate' from our soul and spirit: we still answer for our lives on earth If we are sinning in unrighteous works of the flesh, then we are spiritually just as dead as any other sinner of the world. And if we are being told otherwise by celestial being we are flying with out of body, then he's not from God, but the prince and power of the air.

But don't mistake Jesus' would-be resurrection in the flesh with spiritual resurrection only portrayed in His ascension.

Would-be. Sorry, brother, but would-be is the same as no resurrection of the body.

They saw Him ascend bodily, in His resurrection immortal flesh and bones, the same as He was among them on earth.

He was not "resurrected" in the flesh per se,

For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised: And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.

All resurrection of the Bible, is plainly of the old dead body from the dust of the earth.

There is no such thing as spirit-only resurrection. Brother, you are talking christianized new age-ism. New agers teach spirit-only divinity.

but raised from the dead by the spirit of God, a mere demonstration

Brother, now you are belittling the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, as being 'mere demonstration', as though there is something greater. I suppose that would be one of your revelations.

Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,

The resurrection of our dead bodies, in the likeness of Jesus' resurrection, is to that eternal inheritance in heaven. It's reserved in heaven for our own immortal resurrected flesh and bones. We are not there yet.

of His victory over death--but no flesh enters the kingdom of God.

And so you see how once again you much change Scripture, to try and confirm your revelation.

The Scripture does not say no flesh at all shall enter in, but only no natural flesh and blood enters the kingdom of God. Only resurrected immortal flesh and bones do.

The flesh returns to the dust, and only the spirit returns to God who gave it. This is what is written.

Now, this is true, because you actually teach it as written.

All else is misinterpretation and misunderstanding.

Which is unfortunately all else you are teaching here by personal revelation from on high. And the result is no resurrection of the dead, according to the Scriptures. I.e. the dead bodies in the grave.

I'm going to have to challenge your manner of life: Do you live a righteous godly life on earth?

For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;

And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Does this apply to you?

It does to me by His grace daily walking after his Spirit, and not after the flesh.There was a time when I did live double hearted in the wretchedness of Romans 7, but I knew I needed to repent in order to live in the blessedness Romans 8 and no condemnation.

 

[robert derrick]

The scriptures are not enough--the scriptures declare and confirm it.

Brother. The Scripture does not say Scripture is not enough. Jesus warns against adding to or taking away from any of it. That's where the added testament of Mormons and Sacred traditions of Mariology comes from.

All language (including the scriptures) has been confused by God (intentionally) that they would only be discerned spiritually.

So, God has intentionally confused Scripture, so that man would be compelled to seek spiritual revelation from His own mouth in heaven.

And those who only study and trust in Scriptures as written for us, are just spiritually lazy.

Brother, The languages unknown to others was the purposed confusion, not the languages themselves, and certainly not the Scripture translated into all languages.

Babel is because the one language was made into many languages, that no one could yet translate from one to the other. Those of the same language understood one another perfectly.

Your reasoning of all languages are confused is not sound.

In addition, what has been interpreted of the scriptures was interpreted by "false teachers" entering into the church, as foretold.

Obviously false reading of Scripture leads to false teaching.

That does not make for "private interpretations" to be true or false--the scriptures are not private--they are polluted. These are the fact

However, I believe you are saying something else. It's not the interpretations that are so much at fault, but the words of the Bible themselves?

When you say languages and the Scriptures are confused, and speak of interpretations as confusion of Scriptures, as well as the Scriptures are not private but corrupted. You are actually claiming that the words of the Bible today, are not the 'private' personal words given by God to the prophets and apostles?

You're saying in your own inestimable way, that at least some of the original private words of God have been corrupted or lost. So that the words of the Bible we have now, are not all true Scripture of God, but pseudo-scripture. Or they lack original Scripture altogether.

When you say the Scriptures are not private, but corrupted, you are saying the words themselves have been corrupted by public handling!

But you take it to a higher level. You're not just making that claim and leaving the door open, as others do, to promote your own private interpretations. You are claiming your revelations are not prive interpretation at all, but are the words of God spoken to you in heaven, so that you are correcting the corrupted and lost parts of God's 'Bible', back to it's original form the Word in the beginning.

You're not so much saying the Scriptures are corrupted, nor that there is more Scripture needed to be added, but you are saying the words of the Lord, originally given to the prophets and apostles are not all entirely, nor accurately written for us today.

This is why you speak of having been in Christ the Word in the beginning, and are now spiritually resurrected in heaven, out of the body on earth. And the purpose is to 'awake' you to all the words of the beginning, but revelation of God. And you also say other believers ought cease to be lazy and seek the Spirit of truth as you have, so they too can begin revealing the whole true word of God in the beginning, when we were all in Christ together.

For us earth-bound Christians, you are delusional and heretical, while to you we are in bondage to corrupted words of old flesh and blood.

Cute.

Which does not mean the scriptures are wrong, it just means that the scriptures alone are as much as "foolishness", just as it is also written.

And so, you say it is foolish to bind ourselves to some pseudo-scripture in the current Bible:

But I will shew thee that which is noted in the scripture of truth:

This to you is a foolish angel.

And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.

You say this is a foolish way to reveal the truth of Jesus Christ.

These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

This to you is most foolish of all, not more noble.

Brother, the one thing the scribes did not get wrong, is to faithfully and exactly copy down all the words of every prophet and apostle of God. And all the words of Scripture from the beginning, are all given to the prophets and apostles.

All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

All Scripture is given by God already, and all of it is correctly given in the words of the Bible.

You are claiming an apostleship to rewrite the words of the Bible into original Scripture given by God. You are doing what no apostle of Christ has done: not any of them 'corrected' the words of the prophets, but only quote them to confirm the gospel of Jesus Christ.

God never gave any of His apostles any corrections to the corrupted words of the prophets. Nor does He give any man today to correct the corrupted words of the apostles.

Acknowledge that the greater word of God is not written on parchment

And now by private revelation to you spiritually in heaven, you are correcting the errors of public men, mishandling the original Scriptures of God.

But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully;

You would apply this to the Scriptures themselves, and not to false interpretations of them. You would say devious men have purposely corrupted the words themselves, so that the Bible itself is corrupted. It is therefore foolish to trust only in the partially corrupted Bible of today.

And now I beseech thee, lady, not as though I wrote a new commandment unto thee, but that which we had from the beginning, that we love one another.

You apply this to your new revelation today, that it's not really new but is the true Scriptures of old since the beginning. And this new revelation of old words of truth, is now given to you, to correct the corruptions.

You therefore are receiving from God no new word of God, but the same old word, that has since been corrupted and lost.

You're here to write all true Scripture of God for man, as it was with the Word in the beginning, and once purely given to His prophets and apostles of old.

And you're humbly exhorting others, that you are not the only one God could use to do so, if the rest of us would get off are lazy backsides, only studying a corrupted book, and seek God, until we also hear His words from the beginning, spoken to us today in heaven.

and perhaps we can continue.

You can keep it up all you like. You will correct the words of the Bible, to reveal the old truths that are lost, and I will continue the exercise of rejected your new revelation of old lost truths, by quoting the Bible.

Now if you say I don't get you right, then take one single point I have made, and show how it is not what you are teaching. I am not trying to corrupt your revelation, but really want to know it as you do. It's is very fascinating.

 

[Truth7t7]

You mock the unseen Spirit, equating Him with "Metaphysical Mystical Gobbly Goop", and spew hatred toward what you do not understand.

Go ahead, keep it up.

"There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth."

God the Holy Spirit lives and dwells within me

Back to the banishment to weeping and gnashing of teeth, big smiles!

No hatred towards you whatsoever as you falsely claim, your theology is a Metaphysical Mystical Gobbly Goop found no place in the Holy Bible "Fact"

 

[Truth7t7]

I already have, and you won't acknowledge them the next time. But thanks for saying please. I respectfully decline.

But I would like to see you actually try and correct the soundness of a point I make. So, if you want, one at a time, we can give it a try.

And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

I say this:
1. He will smite the nations and tread them fiercely.
2. He will rule them not fiercely trodden to death.

Otherwise, there is none to rule.

What say you.

Jesus will "Rule" with a rod of Iron in destruction of the wicked at his return

Jesus returns in fire and final judgment (The End) there won't be a mortal Millennial Kingdom on this earth following as you continue to claim, You can claim a Millennial Kingdom all you want, it's not found in scripture

Millennialist use the eternal kingdom seen in the old testament, and desperately try to pass it off as a mortal Millennial Kingdom on this earth, not everybody is ignorant of this fact

Just as pre-tribbers use verses showing the second coming and claim its their pre-trib rapture, no different, bend, twist, and tear God's words of truth

 

[robert derrick]

Jesus will "Rule" with a rod of Iron in destruction of the wicked at his return

True. Those of the nations gathered for war in Judea. And then those goats left among the nations.

What of the shepherd's rod? You speak of it for the wolves, but what about how it comforts the sheep?

Jesus returns in fire and final judgment (The End)

Which is it? Rod of iron or fire? Rod of iron first, then fire?

Jesus will "Rule" with a rod of Iron in destruction of the wicked at his return

Jesus returns in fire and final judgment (The End) there won't be a mortal Millennial Kingdom on this earth following as you continue to claim, You can claim a Millennial Kingdom all you want, it's not found in scripture

Millennialist use the eternal kingdom seen in the old testament, and desperately try to pass it off as a mortal Millennial Kingdom on this earth, not everybody is ignorant of this fact

Just as pre-tribbers use verses showing the second coming and claim its their pre-trib rapture, no different, bend, twist, and tear God's words of truth

You were actually doing well for a second, but quickly descended into rhetoric.

 

[ewq1938]

Jesus will "Rule" with a rod of Iron in destruction of the wicked at his return

Rule in the Greek means to care for someone. He does not rule using violence nor does he destroy all the unsaved globally according to Rev 2 and 19.