Pastor spends Easter in jail after another arrest at drag queen event Derek Reimer faces 8 new charges after protesting drag queen story time

[Wrangler]

Phobias are by definition irrational

Correct. Just saying those who oppose a premise are irrational does not automatically make your premise correct.

Otherwise, You are Christophobic, means Christian ethics is automatically right and you wrong for opposing it, right?

 

[Wrangler]

Or, could atheists, Tranny's, Homosexuals, in direct opposition to and with malice for Christian morality and doctrine invoke the phobic ad hominem against Christians in a clear act of hate speech and as an example of their Christophobia?

It's AND, not or.

Their statement is a triply illogical.

1st, not all emotions are irrational. Appeal to Emotion.

2nd, it supposes the only basis to oppose their agenda is emotional. False Alternative.

3rd, it supposes the emotional response to their agenda is irrational. Ad Homenim.

Truth is sexual deviancy leads to death. Therefore, it is inherently evil - on the very same level as murder, abortion and suicide. Even rape has the benefit of creating life. (Not that I am supporting rape; just showing how bad sexual deviancy is). This is the thought experiment:

1. Put a million LGBT on an island with no contact with outside world.
2. Return in 1 century.
3. What you will find is no human life.

Humans only means to survive through time is (hetero)sexual reproduction. Denying it is the perversion of equality.

 

[Scott Downey]

Not sure I agree with this statement linked to this event. I do think that barging into an event with children present and shouting is not the best way to protest and that the police had every right to remove him. Christians still have to be held accountable for how they choose to do things, and if this had been anyone else then the same action would have been taken.

Reminds me of a John the Baptist type story, where he spoke out publicly against Herod and Herodias. john spoke out and confronted the powers that be about the immoral sexuality of Herod and Herodias to the people and to Herod.

"Reimer's most recent arrest took place after he allegedly caused a disturbance and engaged in criminal harassment during a Reading with Royalty event at the Country Hills Library in Calgary.

Police said Reimer showed up with a microphone and shouted hate speech at event participants, according to the CBC. When the pastor reportedly entered the library and requested to speak with a manager, he allegedly made derogatory comments, engaged in hate speech and harassed the manager and staff, leaving them feeling concerned for their safety.?

John the Baptist Beheaded​

14 Now King Herod heard of Him, for His name had become well known. And he said, “John the Baptist is risen from the dead, and therefore these powers are at work in him.”

15 Others said, “It is Elijah.”

And others said, “It is [c]the Prophet, or like one of the prophets.”

16 But when Herod heard, he said, “This is John, whom I beheaded; he has been raised from the dead!” 17 For Herod himself had sent and laid hold of John, and bound him in prison for the sake of Herodias, his brother Philip’s wife; for he had married her. 18 Because John had said to Herod, “It is not lawful for you to have your brother’s wife.”

19 Therefore Herodias [d]held it against him and wanted to kill him, but she could not; 20 for Herod feared John, knowing that he was a just and holy man, and he protected him. And when he heard him, he [e]did many things, and heard him gladly.

21 Then an opportune day came when Herod on his birthday gave a feast for his nobles, the high officers, and the chief men of Galilee. 22 And when Herodias’ daughter herself came in and danced, and pleased Herod and those who sat with him, the king said to the girl, “Ask me whatever you want, and I will give it to you.” 23 He also swore to her, “Whatever you ask me, I will give you, up to half my kingdom.”

24 So she went out and said to her mother, “What shall I ask?”

And she said, “The head of John the Baptist!”

25 Immediately she came in with haste to the king and asked, saying, “I want you to give me at once the head of John the Baptist on a platter.”

26 And the king was exceedingly sorry; yet, because of the oaths and because of those who sat with him, he did not want to refuse her. 27 Immediately the king sent an executioner and commanded his head to be brought. And he went and beheaded him in prison, 28 brought his head on a platter, and gave it to the girl; and the girl gave it to her mother. 29 When his disciples heard of it, they came and took away his corpse and laid it in a tomb.

 

[TinMan]

Or, could atheists, Tranny's, Homosexuals, in direct opposition to and with malice for Christian morality and doctrine invoke the phobic ad hominem against Christians in a clear act of hate speech and as an example of their Christophobia?

No, becaue just like the fact that most whites are not racists most Christians are not homophobes.

Phobia , Greek phobos "fear, panic fear, terror, outward show of fear; object of fear or terror. "

Homophobia - an irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or people who are identified or perceived as being lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender. It includes antipathy, contempt, prejudice, aversion, and hatred of homosexuals

Christian doctrine condemns the unnatural sex act of homo-sexual behavior.
It also condemns Trans behavior,

in some people's opinion

though we should certainly feel sympathy for those persons and because they are mentally ill and emotionally unbalanced.

False, its not a mental illness primarily because it does not meet even the broadest base criteria for mental illness.

The hate speech against our community intends to mask the contempt, hatred and fear the Sodomite sinners and Tranny sinners feel toward God, for making a mistake in the creation of their wrong gender, and those who hold to the natural order of things.

It's Satan's temper tantrum via surrogates.

I sincerely doubt you have ever had hate speech directed towards you.

 

[Wrangler]

No, becaue just like the fact that most whites are not racists most Christians are not homophobes.

Well, you certainly have the Leftists talking points down. Yet, you completely fail to defend the BLM racist agenda or the LBGT sexual deviancy agenda. The Cultural Marxist talking point is to pretending the only basis for opposing it is "phobia," which is patently untrue. See my post on triply illogical.

 

[TinMan]

It's AND, not or.

Their statement is a triply illogical.

1st, not all emotions are irrational. Appeal to Emotion.

2nd, it supposes the only basis to oppose their agenda is emotional. False Alternative.

3rd, it supposes the emotional response to their agenda is irrational. Ad Homenim.

What agenda?

Truth is sexual deviancy leads to death. Therefore, it is inherently evil

Being born leads to death.

- on the very same level as murder, abortion and suicide. Even rape has the benefit of creating life. (Not that I am supporting rape; just showing how bad sexual deviancy is). This is the thought experiment:

1. Put a million LGBT on an island with no contact with outside world.
2. Return in 1 century.
3. What you will find is no human life.

Humans only means to survive through time is (hetero)sexual reproduction. Denyig it is the perversion of equality.

put a million people over the age of 65 on an island and you end up with the same result. Obviously senior citizens are evil and unnatural

 

[TinMan]

Well, you certainly have the Leftists talking points down. Yet, you completely fail to defend the BLM racist agenda or the LBGT sexual deviancy agenda. The Cultural Marxist talking point is to pretending the only basis for opposing it is "phobia," which is patently untrue. See my post on triply illogical.

are you saying most white people are racist?

 

[TinMan]

Well, you certainly have the Leftists talking points down.

Its called truth not leftists talking points

 

[Wrangler]

What agenda?

Cultural Marxism

are you saying most white people are racist?

I'm saying Cultural Marxism is evil - and you are indoctrinated in it.

 

[Wrangler]

Being born leads to death.

Insolent, especially on a Christian site.

 

[ButterflyJones]

Insolent, especially on a Christian site.

What are the chances of two CM's on one site posting identical rhetoric?

 

[amigo de christo]

Did you think in your lifetime you'd ever see western governments implying Christians and Christianity are the enemy of that country?

Our fore mother's and fathers would spin in their graves to see what America and Canada have become.

We are near the end my friend . All was foretold in the scriptures on how the earth would be near the end .
And we seeing it explode with inquity .
But as for the lambs we gonna point to Christ and speak truth no matter the cost .

 

[amigo de christo]

Given Canada's laws that are hostile toward our faith, I think it best to reserve judgement on what is reported as harassment.

Let none who name the name of Christ embrace the dark rainbow .

 

[Rita]

Reminds me of a John the Baptist type story, where he spoke out publicly against Herod and Herodias. john spoke out and confronted the powers that be about the immoral sexuality of Herod and Herodias to the people and to Herod.

"Reimer's most recent arrest took place after he allegedly caused a disturbance and engaged in criminal harassment during a Reading with Royalty event at the Country Hills Library in Calgary.

Police said Reimer showed up with a microphone and shouted hate speech at event participants, according to the CBC. When the pastor reportedly entered the library and requested to speak with a manager, he allegedly made derogatory comments, engaged in hate speech and harassed the manager and staff, leaving them feeling concerned for their safety.?

John the Baptist Beheaded​

14 Now King Herod heard of Him, for His name had become well known. And he said, “John the Baptist is risen from the dead, and therefore these powers are at work in him.”

15 Others said, “It is Elijah.”

And others said, “It is [c]the Prophet, or like one of the prophets.”

16 But when Herod heard, he said, “This is John, whom I beheaded; he has been raised from the dead!” 17 For Herod himself had sent and laid hold of John, and bound him in prison for the sake of Herodias, his brother Philip’s wife; for he had married her. 18 Because John had said to Herod, “It is not lawful for you to have your brother’s wife.”

19 Therefore Herodias [d]held it against him and wanted to kill him, but she could not; 20 for Herod feared John, knowing that he was a just and holy man, and he protected him. And when he heard him, he [e]did many things, and heard him gladly.

21 Then an opportune day came when Herod on his birthday gave a feast for his nobles, the high officers, and the chief men of Galilee. 22 And when Herodias’ daughter herself came in and danced, and pleased Herod and those who sat with him, the king said to the girl, “Ask me whatever you want, and I will give it to you.” 23 He also swore to her, “Whatever you ask me, I will give you, up to half my kingdom.”

24 So she went out and said to her mother, “What shall I ask?”

And she said, “The head of John the Baptist!”

25 Immediately she came in with haste to the king and asked, saying, “I want you to give me at once the head of John the Baptist on a platter.”

26 And the king was exceedingly sorry; yet, because of the oaths and because of those who sat with him, he did not want to refuse her. 27 Immediately the king sent an executioner and commanded his head to be brought. And he went and beheaded him in prison, 28 brought his head on a platter, and gave it to the girl; and the girl gave it to her mother. 29 When his disciples heard of it, they came and took away his corpse and laid it in a tomb.

Good challenge @Scott Downey - I definitely agree there is a time and place to confront, but as John found out , there are consequences. Herod did not repent , his challenge did not bring about any change and Johns ministry to proclaim the truth ended.
Now when he spoke out and challenged the Pharisees his voice was not silenced, he challenge many and told them to repent and many did, Same with Jesus……….
I guess the bottom line was whether he was led by the Holy Spirit or not to confront in that way at that time.

 

[ButterflyJones]

Good challenge @Scott Downey - I definitely agree there is a time and place to confront, but as John found out , there are consequences. Herod did not repent , his challenge did not bring about any change and Johns ministry to proclaim the truth ended.
Now when he spoke out and challenged the Pharisees his voice was not silenced, he challenge many and told them to repent and many did, Same with Jesus……….
I guess the bottom line was whether he was led by the Holy Spirit or not to confront in that way at that time.

Johns ministry of truth ended?
Two of Jesus' disciples were disciples of John first. John's disciples continued his ministry after his death. So, his message continued.

And, after Jesus' arrest Pilate sent Jesus to Herod Antipas who had earlier reluctantly beheaded John the Baptizer, and Herod, thinking Jesus was John returned, found no fault in Jesus and sent him back to Pilate.

John's ministry bore fruit. And clearly impacted Herod.

And by the way, as it should go without saying, Jesus was confrontational and offended authorities. :)

 

[Rita]

Johns ministry of truth ended?
Two of Jesus disciples were disciples of John first. Johns disciples continued his ministry after his death. So, his message continued.

And, after Jesus'arrest Pilate sent Jesus to Herod Antipas who had earlier reluctantly beheaded John the Baptizer, and Herod, thinking Jesus was John returned, found no fault in Jesus and sent him back to Pilate.

John's ministry bore fruit. And clearly impacted Herod.

And by the way, as it should go without saying, Jesus was confrontational and offended authorities. :)

I mean his own personal ability to carry on proclaiming , as for Herod , there is no evidence that he repented with regards to what John confronted him about and I am pretty sure fear governed much of what Herod did …
Did I say that there was no place for confrontation or that it won’t cause offence to authorities !?
I believe I said there is a time and place and that Christians are still held to account by authorities, in other words they face the consequences of their actions.

 

[Wrangler]

What are the chances of two CM's on one site posting identical rhetoric?

99.9%. They are incapable of expressing an original thought. That’s the nature of indoctrination.

 

[Scott Downey]

Good challenge @Scott Downey - I definitely agree there is a time and place to confront, but as John found out , there are consequences. Herod did not repent , his challenge did not bring about any change and Johns ministry to proclaim the truth ended.
Now when he spoke out and challenged the Pharisees his voice was not silenced, he challenge many and told them to repent and many did, Same with Jesus……….
I guess the bottom line was whether he was led by the Holy Spirit or not to confront in that way at that time.

Since Christ said John the Baptist was a great prophet, and the last in the OT line before Christ came, I am certain John was led by the Holy Spirit. And yes, there is always a cost to following the Spirit when being in the world, but believers are not of the world, they are of God.

Matthew 11
7 As they departed, Jesus began to say to the multitudes concerning John: “What did you go out into the wilderness to see? A reed shaken by the wind? 8 But what did you go out to see? A man clothed in soft garments? Indeed, those who wear soft clothing are in kings’ houses. 9 But what did you go out to see? A prophet? Yes, I say to you, and more than a prophet. 10 For this is he of whom it is written:

‘Behold, I send My messenger before Your face,
Who will prepare Your way before You.’
11 “Assuredly, I say to you, among those born of women there has not risen one greater than John the Baptist; but he who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he. 12 And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffers violence, and the violent take it by force. 13 For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John. 14 And if you are willing to receive it, he is Elijah who is to come. 15 He who has ears to hear, let him hear!

When Jesus said, born of women, there is none greater risen than John, John was as perfect of an OT man as could be or ever was. But for believers in Christ, they are not born of women, but of God, by the Spirit of the Living God they are born.

Christ's New Testament established in His blood is the greatest salvation for all mankind and He is the final revelation, the way, the truth and the life, He said I am the Resurrection and the Life.

God, who [a]at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, 2 has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the [b]worlds; 3 who being the brightness of His glory and the express image of His person, and upholding all things by the word of His power, when He had [c]by Himself [d]purged [e]our sins, sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high, 4 having become so much better than the angels, as He has by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.

 

[Scott Downey]

6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7 This man came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all through him might believe. 8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. 9 That[b] was the true Light which gives light to every man coming into the world.

10 He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him. 11 He came to His [c]own, and His [d]own did not receive Him. 12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the [e]right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name: 13 who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

 

[bluedragon]

This man is disgrace, violating God’s law to “Obey those in authority over you”

Jesus was obeying that law when he overturned the money tables in the Temple????????