How are we to reckon ourselves as being dead to sin?

[Johann]

What is clear to me is that you are not a Christian, sadly. You're bringing another gospel. To you, Jesus Christ being the Way the Truth and the Life is being Pharisaeical.

..and unfortunately he's drinking his own kool-aid.

"Strange Fire"

 

[ChristisGod]

And some more passages confirming 1 Peter 3:15

Psalm 119:46
I will speak of thy testimonies also before kings, and will not be ashamed.

Proverbs 15:28
The heart of the righteous ponders how to answer, but the mouth of the wicked blurts out evil.

Proverbs 22:21
to show you true and reliable words, that you may soundly answer those who sent you?

Colossians 4:6
Let your speech always be gracious, seasoned with salt, so that you may know how to answer everyone.

2 Timothy 2:25
He must gently reprove those who oppose him, in the hope that God may grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth.

 

[Lizbeth]

Saves them... but no others. I am accused by pontificators as being inclusivist. But the truth is in the Pharisaical exclusivism that many have been indoctrinated into here.

Saves any who are willing. From any corner of the globe and out of any false beliefs. Just as I myself once was lost but now am saved.

I get mocked for speaking of such power. For you, that power is theoretical...religious in nature. For those who actually know Christ...it is the power to walk as Jesus walked.

I certainly do believe in that power to walk as Jesus walked. Am also aware that Satan brings his counterfeits of what is true.

Instead of seeking to be saved...seek to die...in order to live.

Absolutely we are to die to ourselves..completely agree.

 

[Episkopos]

What is clear to me is that you are not a Christian, sadly.

This is an inevitable conclusion of the bigot. So then anyone of another tradition..,orthodox, catholic, or in my case a spiritual disciple... must be NOT a Christian because we are not like you.

You have no love or understanding. Typical of the religious mindset. So I understand what you have to believe...in order to preserve your own self-worth.

You're bringing another gospel.

Another gospel from yours....YES. I preach the gospel of the kingdom. An apostolic doctrine that goes WAYYYY back...even before the "reformation."

To you, Jesus Christ being the Way the Truth and the Life is being Pharisaeical.

This is a lie...an obvious twisting as you do. The Pharisees followed Moses...but not correctly. You claim to follow Christ...but the same way as they did...not correctly.

..and unfortunately he's drinking his own kool-aid.

Such religiosity... You are confusing having a narrow mind with the narrow way in Christ. These are mutually exclusive.

big·ot

a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group.
"don't let a few small-minded bigots destroy the good image of the city"

 

[Ritajanice]

This is an inevitable conclusion of the bigot. So then anyone of another tradition..,orthodox, catholic, or in my case a spiritual disciple... must be NOT a Christian because we are not like you.

Hello Episkopos, can you explain what a spiritual disciple is please?

I can’t say I post that much, as I’ve been accused of being a Calvinist, not that it bothers me, I just can’t see the point of back and forth with the mud slinging,..I know we are to stand on the word of God,...unfortunately getting personal always seems to creep in, with the name calling...which doesn’t glorify the Lord!...been there done it all!..not judging anyone, just sayin..

 

[Lizbeth]

I agree that Law is a parable the shows both sides. I’ve been looking at it this morning. It is some things I’m seeing in relation to the curse and the blessing. What it means to drink of the cup of devils and to drink of the cup of blessing.
Maybe no one will get it but me. Don’t misunderstand that as my putting others down but instead maybe I am the one who needs to see it because I am in the wrong. As Mark said…sometimes He shows us something personally to reveal something we need to hear and it wasn’t meant for others. But our own correction. Mostly typing it out so I won’t forget it and can come back here and read it over and over to not forget because surely I will forget.

We speak of God’s jealousy…warning other of His all consuming fire of jealousy and wrath that consumes. I think it was Paul who spoke of “do we provoke the Lord to Jealousy. Are we stronger than him?” With also the wrath of God still remains upon them. Always in relation to the curse being still on others. To destroy them. Omit destroys lies and evil spoken…devils.

But where does the curse remain? On those who bless God and out of the same mouth proceeds cursing. Not bad words. “Bless we God even the Father, and there with curse we men also.”
Blessing God and cursing men. “Out of the same mouth blessing and cursing.” This should not be so. I become clear this morning what is to eat of the table of devils and the table of God. To eat of the curse and the blessing. To eat of both. Where He said you can not eat of both.

The cup of blessing
Communion of the blood of Christ
Communion of the body

You can not drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils. All this… you can not drink of the cup of blessing and of the cup of devils.

How do we define the cup of devils? Is it a theology condemned? No. Blessing and a curse out from the same mouth. Is it to sit with an unbeliever or unbelievers (devils) and this you better not do? Paul set with one who was afraid to eat because of the curse and idols. He said we should know the idol is nothing but the fullness (blessing)of the earth belongs to God. That the idol and the curse is nothing. But not all have this knowledge of “by the body of Christ” you have been made free from the law of jealousies of the curse. What does Paul do? He doesn’t curse but blesses by sitting with one who is weak and believes not, having not yet the knowledge of by the body of Christ..Paul doesn’t eat, giving thanks unto God. By not eating. To me this clarifies now what “one eats and gives thanks to God. And he who doesn’t eat also gives thanks unto God…by not eating to edify his brother whom is weak and has not this knowledge of “by the body of Christ you have been made free from the law of jealousies and the curse.” It happens right there where Paul says for the one who is weak … “I will eat no meat” giving thanks unto God. And in other places not afraid to eat knowing all things are lawful to me but not all things edify.” In both, in all things…whether to eat because all things are lawful being made free from the curse, or whether not to eat for another who is weak” edify is also TO BLESS. Do all things as unto the Lord. How can we take of the cup of blessing and drink of it and take of the cup of devils and drink of it? can we bless God, and also curse men?

You can not drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils. All this… you can not drink of the cup of blessing and of the cup of devils.

What is to drink of the cup of devils? What is “devilish”: here is where the parable in the law of jealousies comes in …
The cup of devils:
Bitter envying
Strife in your heart
Lies against the truth (Paul said we cannot lie against the truth)
This is earthly
Sensual
Devilish
Where envying and strife are is confusion and every evil work. (Curse) (adulterous a curse among the people) …lead unto death, leads unto captivity, sin unto death).
Out of the mouth proceeds a curse.

The cup of blessing
Pure
Peaceable
Gentle
Easy to be intreated
Full of mercy
Good fruits
Without partiality
Without hypocrisy (cannot lie against the truth)


You cannot drink of both cups? You can not drink of the cup of blessing and the cup of devils? Bitter envying
Strife in your heart, Lying against the truth, earthly, Sensual, Devilish, Where envying and strife are is confusion and every evil work. AND Pure, Peaceable, Gentle, Easy to be intreated, Full of mercy, Good fruits, Without partiality, Without hypocrisy.
Do all things to edify.

How is it out of the same mouth proceeds a blessing and a curse? Can we bless God and curse men? Can we drink of the cup of devils and of the cup of blessing? Can we bless God taking of the blessing of communion and also curse men? There is no more condemnation in those who are in Christ. Bless and curse not. Hypocrisy: You can not drink of the cup of the blessing and bless God, and also drink of the cup of devils and speak out a curse on men.

James 3:5-6 Even so the tongue is a little member, and boasts great things. Behold, how great a matter a little fire kindleth! [6] And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defiles the whole body, and sets on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell.

His jealousy requires that we not be spiritual adulterers, having one Husband but sneaking around with other lovers at the same time..... serving other 'gods' while trying to serve Him at the same time. In other words, He wants us to be fully consecrated to Him, not serving two masters. Not to be vessels or fountains of mixture, because what is unclean taints what is clean and makes it unclean. Like Elijah presented the people with an ultimatum..."How long will you halt between two opinions? Either God is the Lord or Baal. Choose ye this day who you will serve." When Israel backslid she was still naming the name of the Lord while also bending the knee to idols at the same time.

 

[ChristisGod]

Hello Episkopos, can you explain what a spiritual disciple is please?

I can’t say I post that much, as I’ve been accused of being a Calvinist, not that it bothers me, I just can’t see the point of back and forth with the mud slinging,..I know we are to stand on the word of God,...unfortunately getting personal always seems to creep in, with the name calling...which doesn’t glorify the Lord!...been there done it all!..not judging anyone, just sayin..

Here is what he means.

He has the "higher " walk , a spiritual dimension that is above and beyond the rest of us who have a "lower " walk in this dimension.

He has made up an idea that he created that is not in scripture to make himself spiritual while everyone else is unspiritual in their lowly walks. It’s elitism , pharisaical.

 

[Lizbeth]

This is an inevitable conclusion of the bigot. So then anyone of another tradition..,orthodox, catholic, or in my case a spiritual disciple... must be NOT a Christian because we are not like you.

You have no love or understanding. Typical of the religious mindset. So I understand what you have to believe...in order to preserve your own self-worth.




Another gospel from yours....YES. I preach the gospel of the kingdom. An apostolic doctrine that goes WAYYYY back...even before the "reformation."


This is a lie...an obvious twisting as you do. The Pharisees followed Moses...but not correctly. You claim to follow Christ...but the same way as they did...not correctly.

Such religiosity... You are confusing having a narrow mind with the narrow way in Christ. These are mutually exclusive.

big·ot

a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group.
"don't let a few small-minded bigots destroy the good image of the city"

Well, all I will say is that I can't help but wonder why Jim B doesn't go after you for your rants.

Don't you know that holiness involves being separated from the world in order to be separated unto God? I mean, that's what it means pretty much - consecrated, set apart for God. Friendship with the world is enmity with God. Be not unequally yoked with unbelievers and He will receive us. We are in the world but not of it. Jesus and His apostles certainly did preach and teach a gospel that was very exclusive, not inclusive. That's the reason they laid down their lives to preach it, that whosoever is willing may receive it.....because whosoever is not willing will perish.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

His jealousy requires that we not be spiritual adulterers, serving other 'gods' while trying to serve Him at the same time. In other words, He wants us to be fully consecrated to Him, not serving two masters. Not to be vessels or fountains of mixture, because what is unclean taints what is clean and makes it unclean.

I don’t see this in Paul’s sitting with one who was weak and without the knowledge of by the body of Christ you are free of the law of jealousies and the curse. this one was scared of the curse. It wasn’t that Paul might touch the weak one and become weak. Nor that Paul might touch one who is dead in Christ and become dead himself…but that that one which was clean may touch what was unclean and the weak one become made strong in the knowledge of Christ. Or that him who was dead in Christ be made alive in Christ. Through edification. In this Paul served Christ not other gods…knowing other (lower case)gods are nothing. We read it…what can separate us from the love of Christ?
Romans 8:32-39 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things? [33] Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth. [34] Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also make intercession for us. [35] Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? [36] As it is written, For you sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter. [37] Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us. [38] For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, [39] Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.


Christ touched the lepers. They didn’t make him unclean…He made them clean. he touched the dead and the dead didn’t make him dead. he made the dead come to Life.

 

[Episkopos]

Hello Episkopos, can you explain what a spiritual disciple is please?

I can’t say I post that much, as I’ve been accused of being a Calvinist, not that it bothers me, I just can’t see the point of back and forth with the mud slinging,..I know we are to stand on the word of God,...unfortunately getting personal always seems to creep in, with the name calling...which doesn’t glorify the Lord!...been there done it all!..not judging anyone, just sayin..

A spiritual disciple is one who has been born again from above (with a sample of grace) and has gone to the Lord for the full measure of grace at the throne of grace. Basically it's one who has been baptized in the Spirit and fire...and who walks in the fear of the Lord. It is one who has been broken in the outer man (through the power of the cross) to walk by faith in Christ. And one who knows the power of the gospel having walked as Jesus walked.

It's all of these things...

And this is as opposed to being a carnal believer who in times past was able to be taught by the spiritual ones. But no longer. Such is the sign of the times whereby a sound doctrine is no longer tolerated.

The self-interest of the carnal man has taken control of the modern institutional church.

 

[Johann]

I bring the Holy Bible.

Your response speaks volumes.

Too many want ear tickling vain speeches.

NONSENSE is absolutely correct in your case.

While some similarities exist between Islam and Christianity (they are both monotheistic religions, for example), their differences are clear-cut, significant, and irreconcilable. For this article, we will survey four key areas: the founders of the two religions, the contrasting views of God, the sacred literature, and the means of salvation. We will see that Islam differs from Christianity in each of those four areas.

Islam and Christianity: Founders of the Religions

Islam was founded by an Arab merchant named Muhammed about AD 622. Muhammed claimed to have received a revelation from an angel of God, and, although he initially feared his revelation had come from Satan, Muhammed later claimed to be the last and greatest of all of God’s prophets. Muhammed had fifteen wives (although he limited other men to four wives apiece) and sanctioned the beating of wives (Sura 4:34). Muhammed was well known for spreading his new religion by force. He commanded, “Fight and slay the Pagans wherever you find them” (Sura 9:5), and he specified the proper way to execute an unbeliever was to cut his throat (Sura 47:4). Muhammed led raids against caravans to plunder their goods, broke oaths, ordered the murder of those who mocked him, and wiped out the last Jewish tribe in Medina—he killed all the men and enslaved the women and children. Interestingly, Muhammed acknowledged his own need to seek God’s forgiveness on occasion (Sura 40:55).

In stark contrast to the moral depravity of Muhammed, Jesus Christ was above reproach in every way (2 Corinthians 5:21). Jesus never married, He defended and honored women (John 8:1–11), and His law was “love one another” (John 13:34). Accordingly, Jesus never assassinated anyone, never beat a woman, never enslaved a child, never broke a promise, and never plundered a caravan. On the cross, when Jesus was mocked by those nearby, His response was, “Father, forgive them” (Luke 23:34).

Islam and Christianity: Views of God

Islam teaches that Allah, or God, is the sovereign Creator and Ruler of all that is. Muslims emphasize God’s absolute unity, which will admit of no division, and God’s will. In fact, the will of God is more basic to who He is than His love or mercy. God could choose not to be merciful, and He can choose not to love; thus, Allah’s mercy and love are not intrinsic to His nature but are choices He makes. More important than loving God—or even knowing Him—is submitting to His will. The word Islam means “submission.” According to Islam, God cannot be considered a “father” and He has no son. Allah does not love sinners (Surah 3:140).

Similar to Islam, Christianity teaches that God is the sovereign Creator and Ruler of all that is—but that is about where the similarity ends. Christians believe in one God who exists in three eternal, co-equal Persons (Father, Son, and Spirit) who share the same indivisible essence. According to Christianity, God loves because His very nature is love (1 John 4:8)—not just because He happens to choose to love. God’s essence includes the attribute of mercy, so divine displays of mercy are more than choices God makes; they are extensions of His character. God is knowable and desires a relationship with us based on love (Mark 12:30). Obeying God is important, but obedience without a relationship based on love is worthless (1 Corinthians 13:3). According to Christianity, God the Father has an eternal relationship with God the Son. God does love sinners (Romans 5:8).

Islam and Christianity: Sacred Literature

Islam holds that the Torah (the first five books of the Old Testament), the Psalms, and the Gospels were given by God—with this caveat: Jews and Christians have corrupted God’s Word and therefore Bibles cannot be fully trusted. Muslims believe that God’s final Word, the Qur’an, was miraculously given to Muhammed over a period of twenty-three years. The Qur’an, which is perfect and holy, is divided into 114 chapters called suras. In addition to the Qur’an, the Muslims have the Hadith, a collection of Muhammed’s sayings, opinions, and actions as reported by those close to him.

Biblical Christianity holds that the Old and New Testaments of the Bible are God’s inspired Word and the only authoritative rule of faith and practice. The Bible warns against adding to God’s Word (Revelation 22:18); Christians reject the Qur’an as an attempted addition to God’s Word and as a document that contradicts the Bible in many ways.

Islam and Christianity: Means of Salvation

Islam teaches a works-based salvation and in this way is similar to other man-made religions. A Muslim must keep the five pillars of Islam: he must confess the shahadah (“there is no God but Allah, and Muhammed is his prophet”); he must kneel in prayer toward Mecca five times a day; he must fast during the daylight hours one month of the year (Ramadan); he must give money to the poor; and he must make a pilgrimage to Mecca sometime in his lifetime. Islam teaches that the day of judgment will involve a person’s good and bad deeds being weighed in a balance—so the standard for judgment is one’s own actions (Surah 7:8-9; 21:47). The Qur’an forbids anyone from bearing another’s burden of sin (Surah 17:15; 35:18) and pointedly denies the death of Jesus (or Isa) on the cross (Surah 3:55; 4:157–158). If you will be saved, you must save yourself.

Christianity teaches a grace-based salvation. A person is saved by the grace (the undeserved blessing) of God, through faith in the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ (Ephesians 2:8–9; Romans 10:9–10). The standard for judgment is absolute perfection—the righteousness of Christ. No one can measure up to perfection (Romans 3:23), but God in His grace and mercy has given His Son as the substitute for our sin: “When you were dead in your sins . . . God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins, having canceled the charge of our legal indebtedness, which stood against us and condemned us; he has taken it away, nailing it to the cross” (Colossians 1:13–14). We cannot save ourselves, so we turn to Christ, our sinless Savior and the author and finisher of our faith (Hebrews 12:2).

Islam and Christianity, having different beliefs on essential doctrines such as God, Jesus, Scripture, and salvation, are irreconcilable. Both religions cannot be true. We believe that Jesus Christ, as presented in the Bible, is the true Son of God and Savior of mankind. “Grace and truth came through Jesus Christ” (John 1:17).got ?

hope this helps !!!

I can add plenty more information-but what you have posted will suffice.

 

[ChristisGod]

A spiritual disciple is one who has been born again from above (with a sample of grace) and has gone to the Lord for the full measure of grace at the throne of grace. Basically it's one who has been baptized in the Spirit and fire...and who walks in the fear of the Lord. It is one who has been broken in the outer man (through the power of the cross) to walk by faith in Christ. And one who knows the power of the gospel having walked as Jesus walked.

It's all of these things...

And this is as opposed to being a carnal believer who in times past was able to be taught by the spiritual ones. But no longer. Such is the sign of the times whereby a sound doctrine is no longer tolerated.

The self-interest of the carnal man has taken control of the modern institutional church.

Ah promoting the heresy called strange fire-

 

[Johann]

Another gospel from yours....YES. I preach the gospel of the kingdom. An apostolic doctrine that goes WAYYYY back...even before the "reformation."

Well, you made a mistake re the Coptic Christians worshipping Allah--how far AWAYYY-do you want to go?

 

[Episkopos]

Well, all I will say is that I can't help but wonder why Jim B doesn't go after you for your rants.

He simply doesn't have the same self-interest as you. Why do you want more people to dump on me? Can't you see how carnal you are???

Don't you know that holiness involves being separated from the world in order to be separated unto God? I mean, that's what it means pretty much - consecrated, set apart for God.

In the OT...yes. But in the NT this is more specific to being spiritual IN Christ. (I write this for others here) In Christ is found "true holiness". And not just a place marker. Holiness is about intimacy with God. (Something the crows believe will only happen after they die....wait for the surprise)

Friendship with the world is enmity with God.

The world and its ways is not the same as befriending a non-believer. Bigots should realize this. Being intolerant and unfriendly...as you crows are...only brings disrepute to God. Judgment is coming.

Be not unequally yoked with unbelievers and He will receive us.

Being yoked is to be married or in partnership with. A witness for Christ can't compromise with unbelievers.

We are in the world but not of it. Jesus and His apostles certainly did preach and teach a gospel that was very exclusive, not inclusive.

This is NOT true at all.

40 for whoever is not against us is for us. 41 Truly I tell you, anyone who gives you a cup of water in my name because you belong to the Messiah will certainly not lose their reward.

 

[Cassandra]

Hello Episkopos, can you explain what a spiritual disciple is please?

I can’t say I post that much, as I’ve been accused of being a Calvinist, not that it bothers me, I just can’t see the point of back and forth with the mud slinging,..I know we are to stand on the word of God,...unfortunately getting personal always seems to creep in, with the name calling...which doesn’t glorify the Lord!...been there done it all!..not judging anyone, just sayin..

Yes, i'd like to know as well. Epi, are you saying that we are not saved by the Blood of the Lamb? What purpose then was the sacrifice for sin?
That we can be saved by believing on Jesus is the Good News, the Gospel. We can never be "good" of ourselves, but we are justified when we accept Him.. And as we are justified , we are taught of the Holy Spirit which is sanctification. The more we release to Christ, the more He fills us.

And what you say about others religions has truth as well--God's people are in every church. When confronted with the truth according to Christ, they will come out.

Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

But Allah is not God--he does not have a son, and the book written of him has different philosophy than the Bible.
That is a problem. How is that rectified? And for the others that have their books?

 

[Jim B]

Looks like we both made a mistake with english . Your right that was a double negative .
But now let me correct your english cause you left out a word .
You meant to say the progressives preach the FALSE gospel . one that cannot save jim . But thanks for the correction
about the double negative . It reminds me of an old evil song i used to listen too .
I cant get no satisfaction . yeah my english teacher used to mock that song . cause actually its saying the opposite
of what the singer intended it to mean .

LOL!!! Nice try, but that's a weak retort. I did not mean to say progressives preach the FALSE gospel. You are deliberately and clearly wrong. Progressives preach the true (and only) gospel, not your hate-filled gospel of exclusivity.

 

[Jim B]

Yes, i'd like to know as well. Epi, are you saying that we are not saved by the Blood of the Lamb? What purpose then was the sacrifice for sin?
That we can be saved by believing on Jesus is the Good News, the Gospel. We can never be "good" of ourselves, but we are justified when we accept Him.. And as we are justified , we are taught of the Holy Spirit which is sanctification. The more we release to Christ, the more He fills us.

And what you say about others religions has truth as well--God's people are in every church. When confronted with the truth according to Christ, they will come out.

Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

But Allah is not God--he does not have a son, and the book written of him has different philosophy than the Bible.
That is a problem. How is that rectified? And for the others that have their books?

To the Muslims, Allah is God. And He is the same God as the Judeo-Christian God. It doesn't matter if the book written of him has different philosophy than the Bible. God is God.

 

[Michiah-Imla]

He is the same God as the Judeo-Christian God

God is God.

“For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,) But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.” (1 Corinthians 8:5-6)

 

[VictoryinJesus]

His jealousy requires that we not be spiritual adulterers,

Consider again the bitter water. You said two or both is there. Agree. One the bitter water enters in and becomes cursing …this is an adulterous.

The other drinks of the bitter water and it becomes a blessing proving this one no adulterous…but free and conceives children.

Question is how can we drink of the bitter water and be both an adulterer and a curse among the people. And at the same time a blessing, no adulterer.

Can we be both? An adulterous and no adulterous? The law of jealousies seems clear in the one who drinks and spouts bitter water…cursing.

On the one who drinks and pours not forth (bitterness) is free from the curse; blessing…seed and children.

serving other 'gods' while trying to serve Him at the same time. In other words, He wants us to be fully consecrated to Him, not serving two masters.

Not serving two masters… blessing God but at the same time cursing men. Out of the same mouth …serving two masters. Lower case “gods” are nothing. It is where the bitter water goes in and overcomes the curse…by out comes blessing and not the curse.

Not to be vessels or fountains of mixture, because what is unclean taints what is clean and makes it unclean.

Immune. If given bitter water and it goes in…to drink of bitter water… the free woman who is no adulterous…she drank of the bitter water too(doesn’t say if she drinks it but if she drinks and is made bitter)…but what happens when she drinks of the bitter water? Unlike the adulterous? The bitter water goes in and … by the body of Christ (dead to the curse)she has been made free of the curse. Free and conceives children. A blessing among the people.

You said it is a parable of the gospel.
Agree.
What does the gospel do?
Bless.
Or curse?

How long will you halt between two opinions? Either God is the Lord or Baal.

Baal is a lower case “god” and is nothing.
Blessing overcomes the curse of the bitter water. We see this in the adulterous who becomes bitter and a curse. And the free woman (New Jerusalem) which is from above and free…is a blessing and conceive seed and children. “How long will you halt between two opinions” blessing God and cursing men?

Choose ye this day who you will serve." When Israel backslid she was still naming the name of the Lord while also bending the knee to idols at the same time.

Naming the Lord while bending a knee to idols (which are nothing): blessing God and with the same mouth cursing men. Is bending the knee to the curse of the bitter water in considering them idols which are no idols for they are dead. A creation of men “gods” which we should know there is only One God”.

Money is no God but the love of money is a god. Money is dead. It is nothing but paper. It is the spirit of the love of it over the Love of God and men which is of value. Not the $ sign…it is nothing. A symbol. But what men turn it into which is love for $…how can that.. the spirit of this lower case god …jump on us if we spend money to pay our bills? Money should not make us bitter: blessing God and at the same time cursing men. Why does money do this?

 

[Johann]

To the Muslims, Allah is God. And He is the same God as the Judeo-Christian God. It doesn't matter if the book written of him has different philosophy than the Bible. God is God.

You are clearly in error.