2 Questions

[Bob Estey]

1. Does the Lord protect repentant sinners from the consequences of their sin?

2. Does the Lord protect unrepentant sinners from the consequences of their sin?

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

1. Does the Lord protect repentant sinners from the consequences of their sin?

2. Does the Lord protect unrepentant sinners from the consequences of their sin?

No and No !

 

[Wynona]

No to both but with the first one, there are times when God can take evil and make good out of it.

 

[MatthewG]

1. Does the Lord protect repentant sinners from the consequences of their sin?

Hello Bob,

Does Yahava protect (those who change their mind) sinners from the consequences of their sin?

My first thoughts are headed towards Jesus, and how he was tempted in all thing, though he never sinned.

Hebrews 4:15 For we do not have a high priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but One who has been tempted in all things just as we are, yet without sin.

1 Corinthians 10:13 No temptation has overtaken you except what is common to mankind. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can endure it.

For me, as a person whom is intuned with the fact that by the flesh I will always sin, when I partake in activities such as pornography, or drugs, or even feelings of hatred or anger that inflict pain towards others either mentally or psychically, there is a consequence, and that consequence is quenching up the spirit with-in.

Part of God's will for us in Christ are not to quench the spirit,

1 Thess 5:19 Do not quench the Spirit, 20 do not utterly reject [a]prophecies, 21 but examine everything; hold firmly to that which is good, 22 abstain from every [b]form of evil.

That is the consequence suffered - Luckily there have been times where I had been caught with drugs, told the truth about them, and was luckily let go... without suffering any jail time. Yahava, protected me by and through my honest, in my opinion.

There are times though, if you are lying and not being truthful, and you get caught, you will suffer consequence whether that be getting caught and going to jail. The pornography has a consequence if overindulged that causes depression, and sadness and quenching of the spirit, which is a consequence.

Those are just some of my thoughts on the matter in trying to answer you in the best of my ability with and by the spirit and use of the word itself.

2. Does the Lord protect unrepentant sinners from the consequences of their sin?

It all depends, however those who have yet to turn away from their doings, could end up suffering consequence which ultimately lead to the death of the soul, where as those who are looking toward him, are in a better position because of looking to the one whom gave them life.

Such, as those who go after children, or those who murder out of envy, or those who have yet to turn to God, are at a disadvantage of having light in their life, though Yahava is always calling, to them.

Yahava can protect, however when we get caught, that is the realization becomes, is my will and my ways of doing things really gaining me anything? Is God real or exist? Just speaking on those who may doubt or have the soil that is hard to get the seed in.

Yahava, loves them, just or unjust and desires for all to come to repent and change their mind towards Him, and incorporate him into their lives, having new life by and through Christ.

I could be wrong and answered these off the cuff, thank you for considering.

 

[Bob Estey]

Hello Bob,

Does Yahava protect (those who change their mind) sinners from the consequences of their sin?

My first thoughts are headed towards Jesus, and how he was tempted in all thing, though he never sinned.




For me, as a person whom is intuned with the fact that by the flesh I will always sin, when I partake in activities such as pornography, or drugs, or even feelings of hatred or anger that inflict pain towards others either mentally or psychically, there is a consequence, and that consequence is quenching up the spirit with-in.

Part of God's will for us in Christ are not to quench the spirit,



That is the consequence suffered - Luckily there have been times where I had been caught with drugs, told the truth about them, and was luckily let go... without suffering any jail time. Yahava, protected me by and through my honest, in my opinion.

There are times though, if you are lying and not being truthful, and you get caught, you will suffer consequence whether that be getting caught and going to jail. The pornography has a consequence if overindulged that causes depression, and sadness and quenching of the spirit, which is a consequence.

Those are just some of my thoughts on the matter in trying to answer you in the best of my ability with and by the spirit and use of the word itself.


It all depends, however those who have yet to turn away from their doings, could end up suffering consequence which ultimately lead to the death of the soul, where as those who are looking toward him, are in a better position because of looking to the one whom gave them life.

Such, as those who go after children, or those who murder out of envy, or those who have yet to turn to God, are at a disadvantage of having light in their life, though Yahava is always calling, to them.

Yahava can protect, however when we get caught, that is the realization becomes, is my will and my ways of doing things really gaining me anything? Is God real or exist? Just speaking on those who may doubt or have the soil that is hard to get the seed in.

Yahava, loves them, just or unjust and desires for all to come to repent and change their mind towards Him, and incorporate him into their lives, having new life by and through Christ.

I could be wrong and answered these off the cuff, thank you for considering.

I have to stop you at "Does Yahava protect (those who change their mind) sinners from the consequences of their sin?"

I don't think the biblical definition of "repent" is "change their mind." I think the biblical definition of "repent" is "stop doing it."

 

[MatthewG]

I have to stop you at "Does Yahava protect (those who change their mind) sinners from the consequences of their sin?"

I don't think the biblical definition of "repent" is "change their mind." I think the biblical definition of "repent" is "stop doing it."

Have you ever looked into the greek word, sir?
This defines what it means, and not but what one may think.

metanoia: change of mind, repentance
Original Word: μετάνοια, ας, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: metanoia
Phonetic Spelling: (met-an'-oy-ah)
Definition: change of mind, repentance
Usage: repentance, a change of mind, change in the inner man.

Everyone has free will to choose to go on with their sin, or change their mind about committing it.

 

[Bob Estey]

No and No !

No to both but with the first one, there are times when God can take evil and make good out of it.

It would seem to me that that is what faith is all about - God protects us if we repent of our sin - and faith does seem to be a key issue.

 

[Bob Estey]

Have you ever looked into the greek word, sir? This defines what it means, and not but what one may think.

metanoia: change of mind, repentance
Original Word: μετάνοια, ας, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: metanoia
Phonetic Spelling: (met-an'-oy-ah)
Definition: change of mind, repentance
Usage: repentance, a change of mind, change in the inner man.

If I don't stop sinning, what have I accomplished?

 

[MatthewG]

If I don't stop sinning, what have I accomplished?

No sir. That is not how free will works. You have to freely choose, to serve God and ask him to help you by the spirit and to lead you away from temptation as I done stated, this is far into a ridiculous question. You have to change your mind faced with Yahava, and his truth of the way that he desires for you live compared to your old life you use to. I know I will never be perfectly sinless, but there has definitely been a change of direction the more that I follow and put my focus toward Yahava, and following his son Yeshua, sir @Bob Estey.

 

[Bob Estey]

No sir. That is not how free will works. You have to freely choose, to serve God and ask him to help you by the spirit and to lead you away from temptation as I done stated, this is far into a ridiculous question. You have to change your mind faced with Yahava, and his truth of the way that he desires for you live compared to your old life you use to. I know I will never be perfectly sinless, but there has definitely been a change of direction the more that I follow and put my focus toward Yahava, and following his son Yeshua, sir @Bob Estey.

When we sin, trouble enters our life. Therefore, the Lord advised us not to sin.

 

[MatthewG]

Yes, you're right, unfortunately human beings are imperfect and faulty, and that is the reason we need Yeshua, but you already know those things, and Paul makes it clear to the people in Rome, they are to die to sin.

However that is a willingly choice is it not? God can't work on a person who does not desire to be worked on.

Romans 6:[11] Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord. [12] Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.

Paul also makes it clear that it is a struggle, between the flesh and the spirit, sir. How they are contrary and at war with one another, to the people at Galatia.

Galatians 5:

Life by the Spirit​

13 You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the flesh[a]; rather, serve one another humbly in love. 14 For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”[b] 15 If you bite and devour each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other.

16 So I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. 17 For the flesh desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are in conflict with each other, so that you are not to do whatever[c] you want. 18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.

19 The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20 idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21 and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like.I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. 24 Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. 25 Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. 26 Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other.

Thank you for talking to me about and my departure is now, it's always great to be reminded of these truths founded with-in the bible, sir, but what one makes of it is totally up to them, and may the spirit guide.

All should be encouraged to read and study the bible and that will be a good foundation to start to build on with Christ as the chief cornerstone.

Peace unto you,
Matthew

 

[thelord's_pearl]

1. Does the Lord protect repentant sinners from the consequences of their sin?

2. Does the Lord protect unrepentant sinners from the consequences of their sin?

Hi Bob Estey,
I think/believe there's a difference in the 1st and the 2nd choice. The 1st one, I think if the person is repentant of sins afterwards, they will have suffered the consequences during, but after they repented, God can and will turn their life around through prayer (or perhaps you don't even have to pray for it) so after you're repentant, I believe God will protect you again because you are His child/sheep. Anyone who tries to harm you after you've repented, will then suffer and get God's wrath, but if you return back to God, following Him, I believe you will win God's favor and He will start to protect you from your enemies and restore your life. So.. the 2nd one is a no. God will not protect unrepentant sins. I believe by letting you suffer the consequences of the sin, He will chastise you into following Him.

 

[thelord's_pearl]

No to both but with the first one, there are times when God can take evil and make good out of it.

yes, this is biblical, the part in the bible, 'you intended it for my harm, but God turned it into good'. I believe if you're repentant and following God, someone may try to harm you, but God can turn it into something good.

 

[Bob Estey]

Hi Bob Estey,
I think/believe there's a difference in the 1st and the 2nd choice. The 1st one, I think if the person is repentant of sins afterwards, they will have suffered the consequences during, but after they repented, God can and will turn their life around through prayer (or perhaps you don't even have to pray for it) so after you're repentant, I believe God will protect you again because you are His child/sheep. Anyone who tries to harm you after you've repented, will then suffer and get God's wrath, but if you return back to God, following Him, I believe you will win God's favor and He will start to protect you from your enemies and restore your life. So.. the 2nd one is a no. God will not protect unrepentant sins. I believe by letting you suffer the consequences of the sin, He will chastise you into following Him.

I think you and I look at it pretty much the same way.

 

[thelord's_pearl]

I think you and I look at it pretty much the same way.

yes the way I looked at it is just a hunch, a really good hunch, from what I've learned and read in the bible.

 

[Gottservant]

1. Does the Lord protect repentant sinners from the consequences of their sin?

2. Does the Lord protect unrepentant sinners from the consequences of their sin?

There are sins that lead to death, and sins that do not.

Those that lead to death are harder to remit.

Do you need to have the right attitude to remit sins that are harder to remit? I say "yes". If therefore particular sins need the right attitude, then all of them do (for this is the Law).

Does God purpose to remit a sin, even when the right attitude is not there? I say "He can". But He has said that if His Word returns void, He will not be willing.

We must be mindful of these things, not given to disputes over them.

God bless.

 

[1stCenturyLady]

1. Does the Lord protect repentant sinners from the consequences of their sin?

2. Does the Lord protect unrepentant sinners from the consequences of their sin?

No and no.

 

[Nancy]

1. Does the Lord protect repentant sinners from the consequences of their sin?

2. Does the Lord protect unrepentant sinners from the consequences of their sin?

No, and no. Christian/saved/born again still have to reap what they sowed even before being saved. It's a natural law. Say a prisoner became saved behind bars, he or she still has to do their time in prison.
Although, I DO believe that He still brings us through our punishment on this earth.

 

[amadeus]

1. Does the Lord protect repentant sinners from the consequences of their sin?

2. Does the Lord protect unrepentant sinners from the consequences of their sin?

Ec 9:11

I returned, and saw under the sun, that the race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to the wise, nor yet riches to men of understanding, nor yet favour to men of skill; but time and chance happeneth to them all.

Mt 5:45

That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

 

[Gottservant]

Ec 9:11

I returned, and saw under the sun, that the race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to the wise, nor yet riches to men of understanding, nor yet favour to men of skill; but time and chance happeneth to them all.

Mt 5:45

That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

Good call!