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1. Does the Lord protect repentant sinners from the consequences of their sin?

2. Does the Lord protect unrepentant sinners from the consequences of their sin?

If you shoot up with drugs with a dirty needle and get HIV will God protect you from getting AIDS?

If you repent? No. But you have a chance of being healed.
If you don't repent? No.

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No to both but with the first one, there are times when God can take evil and make good out of it.
I do not think so.
How say you such is so ?

With the Jews Holocaust ? one may say ? assume nowadays ?
But i say no to this totally ! why ! well calling such a Burnt offering means it's giving such thanks to a god ? Because they were offered up ! to a god ?
I know that they were offered up by a hand full of men who plotted against such, for good reason ? regarding the Rothschild's game plan because most of the German Jews were a great threat to the so called Zionist ? because the majority of German Jews despised the Zionist in fact. So the game plan was set by Rothschild's and Co and the masses were all duped in fact.
Hitler, Stalin, Churchill, and R were all in on the game plan in duping the masses, Rothschild's and Co Bankers were all in it from WW1 on just playing the Game creating Communist and Nazis with such ease ! now what do they do they build China up and kick USA down ? such is all planed ! no one could be so stupid ! they create all of the idiots and nonsense playing everyone for total fools, gender nonsense, race nonsense, gay nonsense ! it's all total BS in fact to whip people up. who is is playing who ? They are !

Is a Burnt offering legal under Christ Jesus ?

If one thinks one can do evil so "that their good "? can come out of such, then such a one is not worthy of Christ Jesus at all in fact !

Maybe we can de populate the earth ? just wipe out 80% like they are planning to do, is worthy ? I think not ! and anyone who promotes such action is going directly to Hell ! anyone who kills innocent people is a Marked man in fact. A Devil !

This world is such as Jesus said, Full of deceptions and delusions ! and that is what this world plays on, but for who are of the Kingdom of God ! we are saved from swallowing such delusions and deceptions because we know their works.
 

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I do not think so.
How say you such is so ?

With the Jews Holocaust ? one may say ? assume nowadays ?
But i say no to this totally ! why ! well calling such a Burnt offering means it's giving such thanks to a god ? Because they were offered up ! to a god ?
I know that they were offered up by a hand full of men who plotted against such, for good reason ? regarding the Rothschild's game plan because most of the German Jews were a great threat to the so called Zionist ? because the majority of German Jews despised the Zionist in fact. So the game plan was set by Rothschild's and Co and the masses were all duped in fact.
Hitler, Stalin, Churchill, and R were all in on the game plan in duping the masses, Rothschild's and Co Bankers were all in it from WW1 on just playing the Game creating Communist and Nazis with such ease ! now what do they do they build China up and kick USA down ? such is all planed ! no one could be so stupid ! they create all of the idiots and nonsense playing everyone for total fools, gender nonsense, race nonsense, gay nonsense ! it's all total BS in fact to whip people up. who is is playing who ? They are !

Is a Burnt offering legal under Christ Jesus ?

If one thinks one can do evil so "that their good "? can come out of such, then such a one is not worthy of Christ Jesus at all in fact !

Maybe we can de populate the earth ? just wipe out 80% like they are planning to do, is worthy ? I think not ! and anyone who promotes such action is going directly to Hell ! anyone who kills innocent people is a Marked man in fact. A Devil !

This world is such as Jesus said, Full of deceptions and delusions ! and that is what this world plays on, but for who are of the Kingdom of God ! we are saved from swallowing such delusions and deceptions because we know their works.
Was thinking of this verse from the story of Joseph...

Genesis 50:20

King James Version

20 But as for you, ye thought evil against me; but God meant it unto good, to bring to pass, as it is this day, to save much people alive.
 

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Perhaps these verses from Daniel 11:32- 35 may help to explain what is happening at this present time: -

Daniel 11:32-35: - 32 Those who do wickedly against the covenant he shall corrupt with flattery; but the people who know their God shall be strong and carry out great exploits. 33 And those of the people who understand shall instruct many; yet for many days they shall fall by sword and flame, by captivity and plundering. 34 Now when they fall, they shall be aided with a little help; but many shall join with them by intrigue. 35 And some of those of understanding shall fall, to refine them, purify them, and make them white, until the time of the end; because it is still for the appointed time.

Also, Jeremaih 50 speaks of the time that the Israelites are seeking the Lord during this present time, but that introduces more complexities with the story of Israel during this present time period.

Presently I am waiting for the fullness of the allocated time of the Gentiles to be completed, and the gathering of the Gentile Kings at the place called Armageddon to be judged, when after the judgement of the Gentiles Kings, God will begin gathering the Israelites to Himself and will plant them in the fertile field of Christ's and will teach them on the Religion of Christ, and will sprinkle them with water to cleanse them so that they can become a Kingdom of Priests, a Holy Nation and His possession among the nations when they renew this covenant with God in our near future. The Israelites will remain scattered throughout all of the earth where they will be found when God gathers them to Himself to bring the Gentiles to Mt Zion to worship their God.

Perhaps we need to rethink our understanding of what is to happen in the End Times that cover the End Times during the Last Age/Generation.

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Might as well go through the fire here, by the holy spirit and fire baptism by Jesus Christ, rather than later, @Jay Ross

Ah! MatthewG, since you hold to a false theological understanding of when the End Times will occur because of your Rabbi's babblings, I do not take much notice of your comments.
 

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Ah! MatthewG, since you hold to a false theological understanding of when the End Times will occur because of your Rabbi's babblings, I do not take much notice of your comments.

It's cool Jay, It's not like I expect to be noticed (in my flesh I totally do). :) Just a man, and Jesus is the one we need.
 

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1. Does the Lord protect repentant sinners from the consequences of their sin?

2. Does the Lord protect unrepentant sinners from the consequences of their sin?
The Lord protects all and any till they push his protection away by sustained rebellion. This is the history of Israel and their captivities. They became fair game for the enemy, the overlord they chose, the devil.
 
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Could you two elaborate? God bless and thank you!

Thanks for your interest!

For what it's worth, it seems obvious enough to me that the devil is not in the protection business. He can't protect us from God or His angels if He intends to destroy us. And protecting us from his own imps is oxymoronic.

So only God really protects, and I know I've done stupid things and escaped the consequences. Who else could have protected me?

It's also plain enough that people often suffer the consequences of their actions in a way that can be traced directly from cause to effect.

What kept Adam and Eve from immediately expiring when they ate from the forbidden tree? God's mercy is all around and through us. It is His glory. We paint our God much, much too small. And by doing so we mistake mercy for chance and grace for license.



One doesn't have to ponder these 2 verses very deeply at all to consider that God protects all of us from the very elements of nature itself.


 

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It's cool Jay, It's not like I expect to be noticed (in my flesh I totally do). :) Just a man, and Jesus is the one we need.

It seems to me that you have a silver tongue. Your understanding of the end times does not match what the scriptures actually presents.
 

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It seems to me that you have a silver tongue. Your understanding of the end times does not match what the scriptures actually presents.
Why are you being weird Jay? No really cares what is believed by me or not. This was the wrong thread by the way that you were mentioned in, it was the other one in general discussion board, friend. Sorry about that.
 

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Was thinking of this verse from the story of Joseph...

Genesis 50:20​

King James Version​

20 But as for you, ye thought evil against me; but God meant it unto good, to bring to pass, as it is this day, to save much people alive.
This is OT mind you.
This is about Joseph reassures His brothers. 50: 14-21
Joseph had the grace of God. and his brothers now have increased in the Lord ? not that it was good that they once did at all.
True Forgiveness is a powerful thing, for it comes from God in fact.

For we do have burdens that do strengthen us in such resolve. Just as i have had hardship forced upon me by others, like working for my dad and elder brother in putting up with their outright malice and i had endured but i learnt more then they could fathom. I learnt about people, something that they do not fathom as so. as they fall for this world. but i am not.

So it comes back to understanding Man ? Sin ! They were jealous of him. but God willing he made way regardless.
 

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God often does protect us from the consequences of sin when we repent. This is why...

Psalm 103:10-14
[10]He hath not dealt with us after our sins; nor rewarded us according to our iniquities.
[11]For as the heaven is high above the earth, so great is his mercy toward them that fear him.
[12]As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us.
[13]Like as a father pitieth his children, so the LORD pitieth them that fear him.
[14]For he knoweth our frame; he remembereth that we are dust.


Lamentations 3:21-26
[21]This I recall to my mind, therefore have I hope.
[22]It is of the LORD'S mercies that we are not consumed, because his compassions fail not.
[23]They are new every morning: great is thy faithfulness.
[24]The LORD is my portion, saith my soul; therefore will I hope in him.
[25]The LORD is good unto them that wait for him, to the soul that seeketh him.
[26]It is good that a man should both hope and quietly wait for the salvation of the LORD.