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you know Evil has crept into your heart and mind your thread regarding me makes it clear to me
Foreign countries often run internet scams. If they were a disabled person that might be different. But in my experience watch out for foreign countries, too many scammers come from other countries where the laws allow them to be internet predators.This particular person is in a foreign country. He doesn't seem to have a regular church. He claims his extended family is in ministry.
I often find myself feeling this way, but if we go too far in this direction, it can turn out that we are just as "me-centered" as we accuse them of being, and we can miss an opportunity to bless or help someone who is in no position to help us in return. In other words, we may misjudge someone of being selfish and me-centered when it's actually deep wounding that needs attention.Hard hearted I suppose I'm called, but I cannot abide whiners or feel sorry for me ppl either.
They never give praise or encouragement to others, it's ALL about ME, ME, ME!
I often find myself feeling this way, but if we go too far in this direction, it can turn out that we are just as "me-centered" as we accuse them of being, and we can miss an opportunity to bless or help someone who is in no position to help us in return. In other words, we may misjudge someone of being selfish and me-centered when it's actually deep wounding that needs attention.
Thank you for your reply.A wise observation. My experience of visiting the Indian sub-continent, but not as far south as where Mel lives, in Nepal, is that there are many financial needs and that I cannot always help them all. I have to let the Holy Spirit give me leading as to who I should help and who is trying to "scam" me for money. Many will use posts designed to pull on our heart strings to gain support for their dependency on others for monetary or "spiritual" security. The advice to teach a person to fish is far better than to give that person a fish to eat. I have invested in self-help programs by financing the purchases of goats to give to the poor in regional areas to supplement their incomes. I have also spoken into these programs giving wise counsel as to how they should administer the program so that the program can flourish, and the goats do not get inbreed. Some of these programs have involved raising chickens, pigs and sheep.
In helping out third world nationals, I believe that it is important for them to play an active part in the program and for them to pay forward the help that they have received.
I am reluctant to help those who will not also work at the solution to improve their circumstances.
I am also reluctant to pray for the outcomes that they request for me to pray for, as if my prayers are more effective than theirs. I am happy to pray for them as the Lord leads me, however when I have posted what I was praying for people, they have often rejected what the Lord has led me to pray and accused me of being disrespectful of them and preaching at them a "gospel" that they do not adhere too.
Now this post is not directed at any particular person. I am only recounting my experiences in praying for and/or helping others whether at home or abroad.
Shalom
They could be lying.I've known someone for several years at a couple of Christian forums. This person always thinks others should donate money to him. He has given sad stories for years and posts them at Christian forums regularly.
I talked with this person last year about getting a job to help them through hard times. But this person told me that they will not get a job.
I know what the Bible says about someone who will not provide for his own family.
1 Timothy 5:8
But if anyone does not provide for his own, and especially for those of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
I understand the above doesn't apply to disabled or ill people. But the person I talked to about finding a job was in good health at the time of the conversation. Others tried to reason with him about this as well.
Just wanting to express this as I can't understand this person's refusal to work....to support his family.
Welcome to CB.They could be lying.
I think if someone is openly admitting they are fit to work but refuse, and then ask others to send them money, that they're really not to be taken seriously.
Many forums I know of prohibit soliciting, for obvious reasons.
I wonder if they actually do receive monies using that tactic.
Locate the Love Inc in your area to send people to. They coordinate with Churches for them to avoid wasting funds on people like him.Limit your contact to people like this, to recommending they seek he.p from their church minister.
Do not give money to people you do not know through having meet them or who are recommended by people you know and trust who can confirm this case is genu.
I see @Debp , you are the evil one here bc you've exposed one's sin.
Exhort; definition
strongly encourage or urge (someone) to do something.
Keep it up, expose those you find to be false among us !
Locate the Love Inc in your area to send people to. They coordinate with Churches for them to avoid wasting funds on people like him.
If they were a disabled person that might be different.
If hes able body, he must work. Disabled people get help from the government.
2 thessalonians chapter 3:10. . Dont enable someone who is lazy, able body and won't work.
If he starves, he will get job.
This is tough love.
Able body people must have jobs.
I'm a little cautious to accept this advice. You said able "bodied" people. I was part of a church when I became schizophrenic and lost my ability to function 9-5 at a job. I asked the church for help before turning to the government. They provided me one bag of groceries and then after that looked at my body and said "NO, There's nothing wrong with you". It wasn't my body that was disabled, it was my mind. And he couldn't discern that from looking at my body. I was bitter against that church after that seeing that I had paid over $25,000 in tithes when I was able to work. After that I turned to the government and they were setup to recognize my disability. They have been helping ever since.If hes able body, he must work. Disabled people get help from the government.
2 thessalonians chapter 3:10. . Dont enable someone who is lazy, able body and won't work.
If he starves, he will get job.
This is tough love.
Able body people must have jobs.
IF any WILL NOT work neither should he eat . We cannot feed the slothfulness of man .Hard hearted I suppose I'm called, but I cannot abide whiners or feel sorry for me ppl either.
They never give praise or encouragement to others, it's ALL about ME, ME, ME!
Hello friend. Abel body person has no physical disabilities. And doesn't have mental disorders.I'm a little cautious to accept this advice. You said able "bodied" people. I was part of a church when I became schizophrenic and lost my ability to function 9-5 at a job. I asked the church for help before turning to the government. They provided me one bag of groceries and then after that looked at my body and said "NO, There's nothing wrong with you". It wasn't my body that was disabled, it was my mind. And he couldn't discern that from looking at my body. I was bitter against that church after that seeing that I had paid over $25,000 in tithes when I was able to work. After that I turned to the government and they were setup to recognize my disability. They have been helping ever since.
We do not feed SIN . idleness and slothfulness and being dishonest IS SIN . IT WONT BE FED peroid .
We take care of those WHO NEED , not those who are lazy .