A Question for Jehovah's Witnesses
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God sent God:
Isaiah 48
16 "Come near to Me, hear this: I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; From the time that it was, I was there. And now the Lord GOD and His Spirit Have sent Me." 17 Thus says the LORD, your Redeemer, The Holy One of Israel: "I am the LORD your God,
Jesus is God!
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Wrangler
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Learn English.
"the Lord GOD and His Spirit Have sent Me." 17 Thus says the LORD, your Redeemer, The Holy One of Israel: "I am the LORD your God,"
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How in the world do you equate that to God sent God? Are you saying Isaiah is God now?
No wonder you're a HUGE JW supporter. They don't do well with English either.
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Wrangler
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Isaiah is speaking for God, saying God sent him. You interpret this as God sent God and I and JW have a problem with English. Gotcha!
I didn't interpret anything. You did. It means what it says, not what Kingdom Hall says it means.
Wrangler
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And what it says is God sent the prophet Isaiah. You are trying make it say 1 = 2 = 3.
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Keiw
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There is some truth in all religion. God only accepts-all truth. I don't think that is what Brother Jackson meant. Maybe in bible days but not now.
You're doing exactly what JW's do! The Scriptures clearly prove that Jesus is God. God sent Jesus!
Wrangler
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The contradiction is in your brain. Only Jesus / God is called "Mighty God". NOBODY else! Only Jesus / God is called "the first and the last". NOBODY else!
Jesus is God.
Wrangler
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Jack a better and clearer translation of Isaiah 48:16 is this one and there are others of course...
This is from the Contemporary English version:
Verse 16 "come closer and listen! I have never kept secret the things I have said: and I was here before time began. By the power of his Spirit the LORD God has sent me with this message:"
I just tried to simplify...that this is YHWH with a message, using his Spirit to drive Isaiah to speak it.
One of the Mothers inventions was the belief in a personal supernatural being who reigns in an imaginary place of darkness. It will be a terrible day for many when they find out even the most peculiar of religions were not untouched by her.
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Consider its dangers. Diverts the true focus away from the true battle within. It taints a believers hope of immortality if they believe divine nature can be tempted and sin. It makse a mockery of God's Divine decree that the wages of sin is death! You would need to be a fool to think God has double standards! It destroys the true message of Christ to his servants through John at Patmos of the true nature of the adversary and its battles with Christs elect. It's one of the most offensive false teachings to come out of the Middle Ages where superstition was rife in the Mother Church. Earlier the fundamental Jews got their hands dirty with Platonic beliefs, such as immoral souls and the like. Today Christians (and JW's) cannot defend its belief opting to just move forward in ignorance. It's a blindness that many suffer from.
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@Wrangler you will note Jane will not defend her communities belief in the Supernatural False Accuser and for good reason...she has no basis whatsoever in this teaching. While she preaches about the Mother Harlot and her many daughters from which the nations have drunk her wine (doctrine) she herself will not admit her defence is the weakest of all her doctrines which is why she has me on ignore. Every single occurence of the words "adversary" and "false accuser" can be explained with careful reading of the Word - something she (JW's) profess is essesntial in discovering truth.
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Wrangler
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Seems you are confusing ethics with metaphysics.
While you might prefer to focus on what you call 'the true battle within,' it does not chnge the fact that there is a devil in Scripture.
Wrangler
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1st, I don't know if that is true.
2nd, it seems like you are picking on this denomination's beliefs. The reason seems IDOLATRY (of doctrine).
3rd, So what if a certain member of a certain denomination won't defend that denomination's beliefs? (I'm kind of glad I go to a non-denominational church. It seems to put an end to people who seeks such information to attack.)
4th, Are we required to defend our denomination against other christian denominations attacks? Not sure where Christ ever said such a thing as 'attack denominational differences' and when they will not defend, claim victory of some sort?
This thread is called 'A Question for Jehovah's Witnesses.' It is not tora. Tora. Tora!
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