Can You Be Righteous

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I believe righteousness is the basic quality of God’s character and His character is to be formed in man.

For the righteous LORD loveth righteousness; his countenance doth behold the upright. Psalm 11:7

The formation of His righteousness does not come instantaneously. For this reason Jesus said, 'But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.' Matt 6:33

Those of the kingdom should experience a daily 'hunger and thirst for righteousness', (Matt 5:6).

The satisfying of this hunger comes as we receive this righteousness into our lives. Righteousness must become our life.

If we seek His kingdom we must seek His righteousness, for the foundation of God’s kingdom is righteousness.

I see the extension of God’s character through His authority. 'For the kingdom of God is righteousness… (Romans 14:17) You could say the scope of His righteousness is the scope of His authority. Or one could also say His authority establishes His righteousness. Righteousness involves the kingdom of God.

What is this righteousness that man is to seek? What is this righteousness that is the foundation of His kingdom and the basic nature of God? I see in the Scriptures that there are 3 revelations of righteousness. The first is found in creation, the second in the formation of a nation and the third in Jesus Christ the Son of God. In each of these a distinctive aspect of God’s righteousness is revealed.

First, let’s look at creation. God brought the world forth on a principle that established righteousness in everything He made. An order was established in the beginning, that has maintained life in exactly the same form as when created. God’s nature was revealed by what He made. (physical evidence)

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Rom 1:20

God brought forth everything on a principle of separation establishing an order in creation that preserved all He made. Separation is the first principle of righteousness. On the first day of creation God brought forth the light that separated darkness from darkness and it was the first day. On the second day, God separated the waters from the waters and the earth appeared. And on each succeeding day in all that He made, life was separated from life in all its forms. This is righteousness coming through order.

There is order in righteousness that maintains life. Because God is righteous, the sun comes up every morning, the earth maintains its orbit around the sun, the clouds water the earth and the earth blossoms. Because God is righteous, there are no monsters, no crossing over of life forms. Kind produces kind and all is good, just as it was when created. God set everything in its order, so life was established. This is righteousness.

Mixture is contrary to righteousness. In all creation mixture was not found except for a tree called 'the tree of knowledge of good and evil,' which became the place of man’s fall. Evil comes through mixture.Here one finds the first principle of evil. The incorporation of evil is sin. It is the nature of sin to break down order and cause disintegration. All kinds of disorder come until all the life support systems of one’s life are destroyed. The working of evil is always death.

It is mixture of good and evil that destroys righteousness. Evil can look good, but when evil comes in, it destroys all that righteousness has made. How many of God’s people are feeding upon mixture? The tree could be a book, a TV, a movie, a magazine, a philosophy or a relationship. The world today is full of mixture. It will excite the flesh but result in death for the soul.

This is a very big point and can be readily identified today. Through mixture one loses the discernment of evil. In looking upon evil, one comes to accept evil; to experience evil, one loses the discernment of evil; and when discernment of evil is lost, evil has overcome. Not following the first principle of righteousness allows evil to enter (first principle of righteousness is SEPARATION). A prophet pronounced judgment upon a nation because they had lost discernment.

Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Isa 5:20

God’s people must separate themselves from evil and draw the line between the clean and the unclean, between the holy and the profane. Fathers must teach their children to draw this line. The mixture of evil must be eliminated from the home and from the church. How much one allows the principle of separation to work in his life will determine how much God’s righteousness will work in his life.

Righteousness brings order and peace.

And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever. And my people shall dwell in a peaceable habitation, and in sure dwellings, and in quiet resting places;
Isa 32:17-18

Here is God’s call to righteousness.

Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? 2Co 6:14

And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 2Co 6:16

Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, 2Co 6:17

And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty. 2Co 6:18

May the Lord give us light and understanding,

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Another excellent presentation Axehead, thank you dear brother. Those who hunger and thirst after righteousness, I just love that verse! They shall be filled Jesus said, and Amen, He spoke only truth :)
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Amen! We can be righteous!!! Having received the divine nature that is already the righteousness of God in us let us now grow into righteousness in our characters...backfilling as it were the lack of maturity with the humbleness of Christ.

2Pe 1:3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:
2Pe 1:4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.
2Pe 1:5
And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge;
2Pe 1:6 And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness;
2Pe 1:7 And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.
2Pe 1:8 For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
2Pe 1:9 But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.
2Pe 1:10 Wherefore the rather, brethren,
give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:
2Pe 1:11 For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.


The last thing we know...is ourselves. This is the blindness that Peter is speaking of. We see others and discern them...we see the Lord and worship Him. But yet until we become as Mother Theresa (as an example of selflessness) in our character and our surrender..we yet don't resemble Christ whom we are carrying within us. The world will testify that we are righteous when we have fully taken on charity as our worldview. Then God can declare us blameless and will provide an abundant entrance for us into His eternal kingdom.
 

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We need to realize that righteousness, esp. ours, does not save us. Christ saves and therefore is the cause of our salvation; righteousness it is an effect of salvation!

This is not posted in an attempt to address any individual, so to take it as a contention or an offense would be a mistake.

For Truth's Sake
 

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We need to realize that righteousness, esp. ours, does not save us. Christ saves and therefore is the cause of our salvation; righteousness it is an effect of salvation!

This is not posted in an attempt to address any individual, so to take it as a contention or an offense would be a mistake.

For Truth's Sake

The righteousness we produce comes from the righteousness of God in us...God works in us to produce a profit He calls fruit. We will NOT be judged according to the righteousness of God in us...but what this has produced in us.

IN this way we will either be vessels of honour..or vessels of dishonour.

So it has every bearing on the QUALITY of our salvation.
 

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The righteousness we produce comes from the righteousness of God in us...God works in us to produce a profit He calls fruit. We will NOT be judged according to the righteousness of God in us...but what this has produced in us.

IN this way we will either be vessels of honour..or vessels of dishonour.

So it has every bearing on the QUALITY of our salvation.

Amen. The QUALITY of our salvation must be Jesus Christ, Himself, dwelling in us by His Spirit leading us to put to death the deeds of the flesh so that we will be perfected in love and produce REAL fruit (of righteousness). It's not just us "reckoning" ourselves righteous but actually being conformed to the image of Christ in reality. This is about God maturing us in love as SONS.

Gal_4:19 My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you, (this is subjective and real).

We need to realize that righteousness, esp. ours, does not save us. Christ saves and therefore is the cause of our salvation; righteousness it is an effect of salvation!

This is not posted in an attempt to address any individual, so to take it as a contention or an offense would be a mistake.

For Truth's Sake

Yes, righteousness is an effect (or product) of Salvation. You will know them by their fruits. Fruit can be seen and tasted. Some fruit will kill you and other fruit will refresh and strengthen you. God is looking for the latter. Good trees bring forth good fruit.

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Romans 10:10

for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.

This is the Biblical definition of righteousness.



To complete the fullness in scripture we have:​

James 2:20​


20 But are you willing to recognize, you foolish fellow, that faith without works is useless?​
21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered up Isaac his son on the altar?​
22 You see that faith was working with his works, and as a result of the works, faith was perfected;​
23 and the Scripture was fulfilled which says, “And Abraham believed God, and it was reckoned to him as righteousness,” and he was called the friend of God.​
24 You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone.​

The truth of righteousness is two fold in qualifications; a working faith. Yet what must one do as work, surly none are asked to sacrifice their child at the alter?​

Here is where God is changing us to His image:​

Love is our work, love everyone as ourselves. Love God most of all. To love is to be righteous, for God is love and we are His righteousness; thereby we are called to Love, in Love, by Love.​

Ephesians 1 5-6​


5 He predestined us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the kind intention of His will,​
6 to the praise of the glory of His grace, which He freely bestowed on us in the Beloved.​


Trusting God is our work. We must trust His word when it comes to salvation, being conformed to Christ, and having power over sin in our lives. Another word for trust is faith.​

Being obedient is our work.​

Hebrews 5:8​


8 Although He was a Son, He learned obedience from the things which He suffered.​
9 And having been made perfect, He became to all those who obey Him the source of eternal salvation,​
10 being designated by God as a high priest according to the order of Melchizedek.​

Without doubt we are to obey Him, but what are we to obey? To love God, to love our neighbor as ourselves. We are even taught to love our enemies. If that is not an emphasis on love...

Matthew 5:21-22

21 “You have heard that the ancients were told, ‘You shall not commit murder’ and ‘Whoever commits murder shall be liable to the court.’​
22 “But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be guilty before the court; and whoever says to his brother, ‘You good-for-nothing,’ shall be guilty before the supreme court; and whoever says, ‘You fool,’ shall be guilty enough to go into the fiery hell.​


Attitudes and emotions play a role in our physical existence, maybe more than we know. God humbles the proud, and self righteous. We are known for our love​
for one another.​
 

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You can be righteous by following The Way, The Truth and The Life. That is walking in the Spirit of Christ.
 

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Has the church given up on personal righteousness?

Does God require men to be righteous or is it something that is impossible so we just say “I am righteous because of Jesus Christ?”

If Christ came to make men righteous, how does one experience righteousness as a work of the Spirit?

1. Is righteousness supposed to be an experiential reality in our lives or not?
2. Is there such a thing as the transformation of righteousness in a believer?

I believe there is because without righteousness the glory of God will not abide among men. It is not enough to be "declared righteous" and to say we are "justified", there must be real fruit.

There must be some manifestation of the work of righteousness by the Spirit in a person. Otherwise, there is no reality of Christ in our lives and we just continue down the "happy" road of deception.

As the Church today is praying for revival the words of the prophet still speak with clear direction.

The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God (Isa 40:3)

Every valley shall be exalted, and every mountain and hill shall be made low: and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough places plain: (Isa 40:4)

And the glory of the LORD shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it. (Isa 40:5)

True believing leads to the inworking (sanctification) and the outworking of our faith (true works authored by the Holy Spirit).

Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you. (John 15:14)

For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. (Rom 8:14)

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We need to realize that righteousness, esp. ours, does not save us. Christ saves and therefore is the cause of our salvation; righteousness it is an effect of salvation!

This is not posted in an attempt to address any individual, so to take it as a contention or an offense would be a mistake.

For Truth's Sake

It does, if you make Christ's righteousness yours. If you don't walk in the righteousness of Christ you haven't known salvation yet. Salvation comes only by following Christ's teachings and example.
 

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Some questions to ponder:

1. Was Jesus' obedience to His Father a product of love or legalism? What is our obedience to Jesus' commands a product of?
2. Was Jesus into WORKS? Or was His life an expression of trust in and obedience to His Father working by faith? What about you?
3. Did Jesus Christ manifest a life of Righteousness? If He lives in us, should His righteousness be manifested in and through us?
4. If righteousness is not being manifested in and through us, is it possible that we are not saved and only walking in a form of godliness?
5. If Jesus Christ was a "Doer of the Word", was He into WORKS? Are you a DOER of the Word and not just a HEARER?

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Hi Axe

You said

It's not just us "reckoning" ourselves righteous but actually being conformed to the image of Christ in reality. This is about God maturing us in love as SONS.

Gal_4:19 My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you, (this is subjective and real

I have a question. At that point of reckoning, when we see ourselves as dead in Christ, is Christ`s rightousness ours? Or are you saying that it develops from that point?
 

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Some questions to ponder:

1. Was Jesus' obedience to His Father a product of love or legalism? What is our obedience to Jesus' commands a product of?

According to the scriptures Jesus' obedience was a product of His suffering.

5. If Jesus Christ was a "Doer of the Word", was He into WORKS? Are you a DOER of the Word and not just a HEARER?

Jesus is the "Word"

 

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According to the scriptures Jesus' obedience was a product of His suffering.

Jesus is the "Word"
John 8:28-32
Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I DO nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things. (As He hears His Father, He speaks and what His Father teaches Him, He DOES - He is a Doer of His Father's Word).

When Jesus was on the earth as the Son of Man, He was a doer of the Word. He always listened to the Father and obeyed what the Father told Him. Jesus always wanted to do what was pleasing to the Father. He never reasoned or made excuses because He wanted to do His Father’s will and not his own. Jesus received and obeyed commands from the Father. Jesus said that He only did what He saw the Father do and He only said what He heard the Father say. Jesus was a sinless example of how we are supposed to be, in total obedience to the Father.

Jesus' obedience was a product of His love for His Father and because He loved His Father He chose (by His WILL) to do His Father's Will and not to give into His own desires. "Not my Will but Thy Will be done". Jesus said, "not my will or desires but my Father's will". Obeying the Will of God results in suffering because you are bearing your cross and denying self/flesh, saying NO to your will/desires and the urges / lusts of the flesh. Whenever you choose the Cross (His Will and not yours) you suffer in the flesh, but you learn through this suffering that obedience is better than sacrifice because it yields the peaceable fruit of righteousness. Jesus asked His Father if there was any other way to accomplish His Father's desire rather than go to the Cross? That is what Jesus was implying when He said, "Let this cup pass from me". But, He quickly realized because possibly His Father spoke to Him in that instant that this was the only way and so Jesus accepted His Father's will and said, "Nevertheless, not my will but yours be done". Then Jesus suffered. The suffering comes after you have decided to obey because until you decide to obey (pick up your cross), you can actually decide that you don't want to obey and instead escape the suffering that is ahead.

The Love that Jesus Christ had for His Father manifested in His DOING of His Father's "will". It is the same for us.

John 14:21
He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

Jesus says, that those who keep my commandments, are the ones that love ME.

The first Adam failed to obey, the last Adam did not. The will of God for the first Adam was for him to love God's Word and learn obedience through the things he suffered (bearing his cross, denying self and loving God's Word, rather than giving into the lusts of the flesh, lusts of the eyes and pride of life).

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John 8:28-32
Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I DO nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things. (As He hears His Father, He speaks and what His Father teaches Him, He DOES - He is a Doer of His Father's Word).

When Jesus was on the earth as the Son of Man, He was a doer of the Word. He always listened to the Father and obeyed what the Father told Him. Jesus always wanted to do what was pleasing to the Father. He never reasoned or made excuses because He wanted to do His Father’s will and not his own. Jesus received and obeyed commands from the Father. Jesus said that He only did what He saw the Father do and He only said what He heard the Father say. Jesus was a sinless example of how we are supposed to be, in total obedience to the Father.

Jesus' obedience was a product of His love for His Father and because He loved His Father He chose (by His WILL) to do His Father's Will and not to give into His own desires. "Not my Will but Thy Will be done". Jesus said, "not my will or desires but my Father's will". Obeying the Will of God results in suffering because you are bearing your cross and denying self/flesh, saying NO to your will/desires and the urges / lusts of the flesh. Whenever you choose the Cross (His Will and not yours) you suffer in the flesh, but you learn through this suffering that obedience is better than sacrifice because it yields the peaceable fruit of righteousness. Jesus asked His Father if there was any other way to accomplish His Father's desire rather than go to the Cross? That is what Jesus was implying when He said, "Let this cup pass from me". But, He quickly realized because possibly His Father spoke to Him in that instant that this was the only way and so Jesus accepted His Father's will and said, "Nevertheless, not my will but yours be done". Then Jesus suffered. The suffering comes after you have decided to obey because until you decide to obey (pick up your cross), you can actually decide that you don't want to obey and instead escape the suffering that is ahead.

The Love that Jesus Christ had for His Father manifested in His DOING of His Father's "will". It is the same for us.

John 14:21
He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

Jesus says, that those who keep my commandments, are the ones that love ME.

The first Adam failed to obey, the last Adam did not. The will of God for the first Adam was for him to love God's Word and learn obedience through the things he suffered (bearing his cross, denying self and loving God's Word, rather than giving into the lusts of the flesh, lusts of the eyes and pride of life).

Axehead

Even though Jesus was God's Son, he learned obedience from the things he suffered. Hebrews 5:8

I think this is about as clear as clear can be. Don't you?
 

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"If Christ came to make men righteous, how does one experience righteousness as a work of the Spirit?"

Best question I’ve seen lately!!


The righteousness in which the believer stands is not his personal righteousness because the only righteousness that exists is the righteousness of Christ, which is vicariously imputed to us due to being justified (also imputed) by His sacrifice. It's from Christ in us to personally possess, but never directly comes from us, but from Him - through us - to others. No deeds can justify (Rom 3:20) because that’s the job of Grace - by virtue of our redemption in Christ (v 24).

This is why it is said that we are "made the righteousness of God in Him"(Christ - 2 Cor 5:21). Personal-righteousness is not viewed in Scripture or it could be personal-justification, which conflicts with the truth that we are only justified by Christ.

We are not righteous by doing righteousness. We do righteousness because we are righteous (never by virtue of self but Christ).

As in all of my posts, I only share in the spirit of neighborly-love, for truth’s sake!
 

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Even though Jesus was God's Son, he learned obedience from the things he suffered. Hebrews 5:8

I think this is about as clear as clear can be. Don't you?

He may have demonstrated the image and/or process of learning for our benefit but i doubt as God he had to"learn" anything.
 

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I hold to these 5 points: 1. Called "Commissioned" (being picked out by God for His use), 2. Dedication (choosing to accept God's call and being devouted to it), 3. Consecration (setting my life and all apart for God's use and use only by Him), 4. Sanctification (God setting me apart for His use and selective service and molding me by His Spirit), 5. Holiness (Living a life used and purified by God living in His likeness which is Holiness).
"[background=rgb(249, 253, 255)]Since we have these promises, dear friends, let us purify ourselves from everything that contaminates body and spirit, perfecting holiness out of reverence for God" (2 Corinthians 7:1)[/background]
 

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"If Christ came to make men righteous, how does one experience righteousness as a work of the Spirit?"

Best question I’ve seen lately!!


The righteousness in which the believer stands is not his personal righteousness because the only righteousness that exists is the righteousness of Christ, which is vicariously imputed to us due to being justified (also imputed) by His sacrifice. It's from Christ in us to personally possess, but never directly comes from us, but from Him - through us - to others. No deeds can justify (Rom 3:20) because that’s the job of Grace - by virtue of our redemption in Christ (v 24).

This is why it is said that we are "made the righteousness of God in Him"(Christ - 2 Cor 5:21). Personal-righteousness is not viewed in Scripture or it could be personal-justification, which conflicts with the truth that we are only justified by Christ.

We are not righteous by doing righteousness. We do righteousness because we are righteous (never by virtue of self but Christ).

As in all of my posts, I only share in the spirit of neighborly-love, for truth’s sake!

Au contraire mon frere! We are declared righteous by doing righteousness. Grace is a means of doing. So we must not be only hearers but doers. Jesus said...He who hears my words and DOES them is like a man who built on a rock.
 

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This might seem a little turned around because the terms run together, but: we aren't righteous because we do righteousness, but doing righteousness shows, or as you correctly put it, declares we are righteous.

Doing righteousness declares or shows one is righteous; not, doing righteousness makes us righteous. The difference appears small but it is vast. The key words are declares and makes. Showing one is righteous is not the same as making one righteous.

"He that doeth righteousness is righteous" (1 John 3:7). He that doeth righteousness (shows he) is righteous"; not, He that doeth righteousness makes him righteous.

Sorry if this seemed unnecessarily tedious but I think it's a clear model. Here is some extra curriculum which I humbly expounds it best:

“He that doeth righteousness, is righteous” (1 John 3:7); not that any man is made righteous by the works of the law, or by his obedience to the law of works, for this is contrary to the express word of God; and besides, the best righteousness of man is imperfect, and can never constitute or denominate him righteous before God; and if he were justified by it, it would not only lay a foundation for boasting in him, which ought not to be, but would make the death, the sacrifice, and righteousness of Christ, to be in vain.

Men are only made righteous by the righteousness of Christ, which He has wrought out, which is revealed in the Gospel, and received by faith, and which God imputes without works (Rom 4:6); so that he that doeth righteousness is he that being convinced of the insufficiency of his own righteousness, and of the excellency and suitableness of Christ's righteousness, renounces his own, and submits to His; who lays hold upon it, receives it, and exercises faith on it, as his justifying righteousness; and, in consequence of this, lives in a course of holiness and righteousness, in opposition to, and distinction from one that commits sin. -JG
 
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