A heretical teaching dismantled with the help of Paul the Evangelist.

[BreadOfLife]

Yawn.
Your self-backpatting routine has run its course.

No – just exposing YOU for being a coward.

You dance around very issue making strong implications about what you believe – but you can never give an official position - because you can’t defend them . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

I never said that.
You fail again trying to speak for others…

So – instead of dancing around the issue in a cowardly fashion – why don’t you tall me what your official position is on this subject?

Where are individuals supposed to glean their Scriptural interpretations?
WHO do YOU look to for answers per Matt. 18:15-18??

 

[Illuminator]

I did not say what you claim.

Your string of accusations based on your own false claim… makes all your accusations applicable to your own self.

Thanks for identifying with the term/label Of A “religious sickness” that compels you to make false claims.

Maybe you should consider praying “TO” the “Great Physician” to heal you, rather than a substitute.

I have proven over and over again, your obsession with "statue worship" is stupid, false, ridiculous and unbiblical. The fact that you keep repeating the same false accusation of statue worship in numerous posts doesn't speak well of your integrity, but speaks volumes of pride; a refusal to be corrected.
Since the days of the apostles, the Catholic Church has consistently condemned the sin of idolatry. The Catechism of the Council of Trent (1566) taught that idolatry is committed “by worshipping idols and images as God, or believing that they possess any divinity or virtue entitling them to our worship, by praying to, or reposing confidence in them” (374).

What Taken fails to recognize is the distinction between thinking a piece of stone or plaster is a god and desiring to visually remember Christ and the saints in heaven by making statues in their honor. The making and use of religious statues is a thoroughly biblical practice.
Anyone who says otherwise doesn’t know his Bible.

Do Catholics Worship Statues?

Do Catholics violate God's prohibition of idolatry by worshiping statues? We put this bogus claim to rest once and for all.

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So Catholics Worship Statues?

The first commandment says: I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before m...

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J. Geobbles, Hitler's Mastermind of Propaganda

 

[Taken]

I have proven over and over again, your obsession with "statue worship" is stupid, false, ridiculous and unbiblical. The fact that you keep repeating the same false accusation of statue worship in numerous posts…

You speak For me.
You don’t like what you speak For me.
You make disapproving comments for that which you have said For me.
You claim you are responding to numerous posts I have made.

YET…you quote me not once, saying what you speak For me.

GASLIGHTER

 

[amigo de christo]

You speak For me.
You don’t like what you speak For me.
You make disapproving comments for that which you have said For me.
You claim you are responding to numerous posts I have made.

YET…you quote me not once, saying what you speak For me.

GASLIGHTER

hey taken i have a question for you .
IS it THE WILL OF GOD to believe in buddism and do good works and have love
or ISLAM and do good works and have love
IS it the will of GOD that folks believe in false religoins and yet its okay IF THEY DO GOOD WORKS and LOVE one another .
THEN WHY THE HECK are so many entertaining the LIE of the HARLOT who has infected about all of even the protestant realm .
WHAT IS THE WILL OF THE FATHER . TO BELIEVE ON JESUS CHRIST and that we do good works with all FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST .
SO , never heed this pope franics ever nor these sold out all inclusivians who sold a false social green gospel to all .
You all may return to your debate now .

 

[Illuminator]

You speak For me.
You don’t like what you speak For me.
You make disapproving comments for that which you have said For me.
You claim you are responding to numerous posts I have made.

YET…you quote me not once, saying what you speak For me.

GASLIGHTER

Going back just 2 pages, post #470, you said, quote:

You seem to be of the Opinion, IF you Hear a Catholic Preacher speaking, teaching, YOU ARE obliged AS a Catholic Church member, to Believe him….PERIOD.

off topic---BTW, Matt Slick, when it comes to Catholicism, is a professional liar, . He owns 70 pro-Calvin forums. Are you an administrator of sorts in the CARM forum? I started a thread exposing Slick's slick polemics and it won the "no further replies" ribbon. I've seen this silly narrative before.

Is this coming from a man whose membership is of a Church that splintered off from the first Jewish churches and the Roman Catholic church ? LOL

The "Roman Catholic Church" DIDN'T EXIST under that title until the Anglicans invented it in the 15th century. The CATHOLIC Church fulfils JUDAISM. "We haven't splintered off from our Elder Brother and every Catholic Church has a Sanctuary Lamp. It red, the first thing you see. You have a podium with no Table. Our many Jewish roots are visible all over the place. Too bad you don't want them.

Exodus 27:20-21 NKJV​

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The Care of the Lampstand​

20 “And you shall command the children of Israel that they bring you pure oil of pressed olives for the light, to cause the lamp to [a]burn continually. 21 In the tabernacle of meeting, outside the veil which is before the Testimony, Aaron and his sons shall tend it from evening until morning before the Lord. It shall be a statute forever to their generations on behalf of the children of Israel.
Read full chapter

Footnotes​

1. Exodus 27:20 Lit. ascend

Bible Gateway passage: Exodus 27:20-21 - New King James Version

What year did this command expire? 1517? Hopefully you won't argue what "forever" means.

off topic again: The "Catholic Roman Empire Church" is a mindset propagated by cults and the under-educated.
Peter and Paul cofounded the Church IN Rome, there is no such thing as the church OF Rome. That's fear-mongering nonsense and I see it all the time. The Hislopites are the worst. They can find evil in a box of cereal.

Drop the statue worship canard. It's stupid and slanderous.

 

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hey taken i have a question for you .
IS it THE WILL OF GOD to believe in buddism and do good works and have love
or ISLAM and do good works and have love
IS it the will of GOD that folks believe in false religoins and yet its okay IF THEY DO GOOD WORKS and LOVE one another .
THEN WHY THE HECK are so many entertaining the LIE of the HARLOT who has infected about all of even the protestant realm .
WHAT IS THE WILL OF THE FATHER . TO BELIEVE ON JESUS CHRIST and that we do good works with all FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST .
SO , never heed this pope franics ever nor these sold out all inclusivians who sold a false social green gospel to all .
You all may return to your debate now .

You have correctly answer your own question.
Men have freewill. God claims those who freely choose His way.

God Bless,
Taken

 

[Taken]

Drop the statue worship canard. It's stupid and slanderous.

Gaslighter.

 

[Taken]

Paul was admitting that altho0ugh he has surrendered to Christ that he STILL struggles with sin because of our fallen nature.

The fact that YOU claim to be above this proves your active involvement with sin . . .

Really? Because you say something ABOUT me, that verifies for you a Proof? LOL

Sheesh, you never cease to keep me from laughing at your nonsense, AS IF, you hanging on to the natural and continuing to commit sin applies to everyone else.
It doesn’t.

I speak for myself according to Scripture that which applies to me. (Not YOU)

1 John 3:
[9] Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

1 John 5:
[18] We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.

 

[Taken]

Show me where the Bible teaches that Jesus interprets the Scriptures FOR you.[/FONT]

LOL…weird.
your words, your claim, you search for your claims yourself.

 

[Taken]

No – just exposing YOU for being a coward.

You dance around very issue making strong implications about what you believe – but you can never give an official position - because you can’t defend them . . .

Nope. I am expressly clear what I Believe.
Nope. I have no requirement to defend my Belief.

 

[amigo de christo]

LOL…weird.
your words, your claim, you search for your claims yourself.

He aint no different that the mormons jw or scores of others who truly BELIEVE ITS THEIR MEN who are the infallible hand of GOD
and THEY and THEIR intrepation IS THE ONLY RIGHT ONE . and yet if you even have the eyes to see
YOU GONNA SEE their intrepration IS DEAD WRONG , CONTRARY TO GOD .
NEVER BUY the lie of the harlot .

 

[Taken]

He aint no different that the mormons jw or scores of others who truly BELIEVE ITS THEIR MEN who are the infallible hand of GOD
and THEY and THEIR intrepation IS THE ONLY RIGHT ONE . and yet if you even have the eyes to see
YOU GONNA SEE their intrepration IS DEAD WRONG , CONTRARY TO GOD .
NEVER BUY the lie of the harlot .

Amen…Beware, Beware, Beware.

Plain words…
ALL have sinned.
Do NOT bow before statues.
Pray TO God ONLY.
All MUST die.
Beware of False Teachers.
Verify in Scripture what you Hear.
Jesus IS mans advocate, intercessor.

on and on


1 Cor 15:
[36] Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:

 

[amigo de christo]

Amen…Beware, Beware, Beware.

Plain words…
ALL have sinned.
Do NOT bow before statues.
Pray TO God ONLY.
All MUST die.
Beware of False Teachers.
Verify in Scripture what you Hear.
Jesus IS mans advocate, intercessor.

on and on


1 Cor 15:
[36] Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:

 

[amigo de christo]

 

[BreadOfLife]

Nope. I am expressly clear what I Believe.
Nope. I have no requirement to defend my Belief.

Then explain your position on this issue.

If Jesus teaches you personally how to interpret Scripture, why are there so many different interpretations among Protestants?

 

[BreadOfLife]

LOL…weird.
your words, your claim, you search for your claims yourself.

You refuse to show me because your fallacy exists NOWHERE ijn Scripture.

EPIC FAIL . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Really? Because you say something ABOUT me, that verifies for you a Proof? LOL

Sheesh, you never cease to keep me from laughing at your nonsense, AS IF, you hanging on to the natural and continuing to commit sin applies to everyone else.
It doesn’t.

I speak for myself according to Scripture that which applies to me. (Not YOU)

1 John 3:
[9] Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

1 John 5:
[18] We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.

This shows your complete confusion and failure to understand the Word of God.
Time for another Bible Lesson . . .

John is telling his readers that although they do NOT live a life of willful sin as they did before – they will STILL stumble from time to time. This is clearly evident by his admonishment in 1 John 5:16, where it states emphatically:

1 John5:16
“If anyone sees his brother sinning, if the sin is not deadly, he should pray to God and he will give him life”.

“Brother” (Adelphos) in this context is a fellow Christian – not a uterine sibling.
CLEAR, Biblical evidence that Christians still sin from time to time.

 

[amigo de christo]

Then explain your position on this issue.

If Jesus teaches you personally how to interpret Scripture, why are there so many different interpretations among Protestants?

cause most did just like the RCC did . they were carnal and taught it through their own mind .
You do realize this does happen a lot . I mean the RCC is king of it and sadly most of the protestant realm
seemth to be queen of it .

 

[amigo de christo]

Amen…Beware, Beware, Beware.

Plain words…
ALL have sinned.
Do NOT bow before statues.
Pray TO God ONLY.
All MUST die.
Beware of False Teachers.
Verify in Scripture what you Hear.
Jesus IS mans advocate, intercessor.

on and on


1 Cor 15:
[36] Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:

Guess all i can say to you , my friend , is never sit for one second under the RCC . course i do know that is like singing to the choir .