Deaths spike after covid vaccine graphed for multiple countries

[rebuilder 454]

I am extremely knowledgeable, the problem friend is that we are on different sides of the fence.

You do you, and I'll do me. Deal?

The difference is I explore your sources and then got the truth from facts.
You are not willing for some reason to reason out basic simple data and facts,from other sources.

Your sources are you dilemma.

 

[rebuilder 454]

The whole time I wore a mask out and about and at work, I never got Covid. The minute my fiance stopped wearing a mask and I would never wear one around her, she got Covid from a non-masked co-worker and then gave it to me. That was the first time I got Covid.

Wore a mask to work every day even after ai changed to working in a Plasma center as an EMT. The minute I let my guard down and not wear a mask, I get Covid again. That was the second time.

Believe what you want. I believe masks work. I am also using surgical masks or N-95s and these are properly fitted as I know how to use a mask and how to fit them properly.

I never agreed with unmasked Antifa gatherings or politicians not wearing masks. I can control what I do however, not what they do. I can voice my opinion that people should mask up, that schools and churches should be shut down, but thatbis all my voice is, an opinion. What others do, I can not control.

Then you should not be worried if others do not wear one.
Since yours works.
You invoked surgical masks. Meaning you do not trust those silly things faucci said to wear 5 at a time.

You beginning to see how absurd this whole deal is?????

 

[Naomanos]

Just the opposite.
read through the thread, And see that we are the ones being called radical crazed conspiratists.
IT is really bizarre at this late hour that such pure evil has been totally exposed.

Do two wrongs make a right? If you are being called names, report to the moderators and let them handle it.

I also, unlike you and others, don't believe this was planned or the vaccine is meant to kill off a percentage of the population. I simply do not believe this.

It's not me being delusional and rather is more because I have to see concrete evidence that leads me there.

 

[Naomanos]

The difference is I explore your sources and then got the truth from facts.
You are not willing for some reason to reason out basic simple data and facts,from other sources.

Your sources are you dilemma.

My sources are the dilemma, please tell me, what are my sources since you seem to think you know what they are.

 

[rebuilder 454]

I am extremely knowledgeable, the problem friend is that we are on different sides of the fence.

You do you, and I'll do me. Deal?

when you transposed hydroxychloroquine on top of ivermectin. I knew you did not know what you were talking about.
I know of no hydroxychloroquine at the feed store.

 

[Naomanos]

Then you should not be worried if others do not wear one.
Since yours works.
You invoked surgical masks. Meaning you do not trust those silly things faucci said to wear 5 at a time.

You beginning to see how absurd this whole deal is?????

I used what I know works and what I had easy access too. Had nothing to do with not trusting what Fauci said and just using what was available to me and as an EMT, surgical, masks were commonplace and I could get them for free anytime I wanted.

Same with N-95s.

This whole ordeal is not absurd to me. It is real because I seen it first hand. It will never be absurd to me.

 

[Naomanos]

when you transposed hydroxychloroquine on top of ivermectin. I knew you did not know what you were talking about.
I know of no hydroxychloroquine at the feed store.

I never transposed anything and where did I say you can get hydroxychloroquine at the feed store? I only spoke of hydroxychloroquine. I never mentioned ivermectin. I have real knowledge of hydroxychloroquine because of my fiance. I know of ivermectin only as an anti-parasytical drug that is used for horses and in medications for dogs such as Heartguard, which is for heartworm.

This is what I am talking about with the trying to discredit someone. If you continue to have a disingenuous conversation, I will end the conversation on my side.

 

[rebuilder 454]

My sources are the dilemma, please tell me, what are my sources since you seem to think you know what they are.

the major news networks agree with you 100%,... and all democrats i have talked to..

I know you are opposed to politics, unfortunately the virus became 100% politics that is still killing people that did not do their due diligence.

 

[Naomanos]

the major news networks agree with you 100%,... and all democrats i have talked to..

I know you are opposed to politics, unfortunately the virus became 100% politics that is still killing people that did not do their due diligence.

Just because major news networks agree with me doesn't mean that those are my sources. I am also not a Democrat, but a moderate independent.

I am not at all opposed to politics and vote in all presidential general elections and primaries. I also, voted this past year for the mid-year elections for Governor and others.

 

[Mr E]

You say it's self delusion because you think I always thought it was supposed to prevent me from getting it. I never really thought that, but I knew that it would lessen the effects.

You guys always seem to go for what you think will discredit the person or you go and try and put a person down. This is what is wrong with posts like yours. Rather than keeping it to the actual subject, you make it personal.

Some folks expect honesty from those we converse with. You can deceive yourself, but you can't deceive me.

You've convinced yourself that the vaccine worked-- it didn't. It didn't at all do, what they said it would do, but you easily ignore that fact and have made up some nonsensical idea that things would have been worse, had you not got vaccinated. It's like if you were to jump out of an airplane-- the parachute, by design is to prevent you from free falling and dying. If it doesn't open, it doesn't do what it was designed to do.... making it a failed proposition. When you fall and smash into the ground, no one can stand up and say-- well, it would have been much worse, if I hadn't been wearing this parachute. It didn't do what it was supposed to do. It didn't prevent anything.

 

[Mr E]

Just because major news networks agree with me doesn't mean that those are my sources. I am also not a Democrat, but a moderate independent.

I am not at all opposed to politics and vote in all presidential general elections and primaries. I also, voted this past year for the mid-year elections for Governor and others.

Mask Control: Prove COVID-19 exists...I dare you!

Not a Democrat? Do you just make stuff up?

.....he wished me and my family dead because I am a Democrat and have had the vaccine as did all of my family.

 

[Naomanos]

Some folks expect honesty from those we converse with. You can deceive yourself, but you can't deceive me.

You've convinced yourself that the vaccine worked-- it didn't. It didn't at all do, what they said it would do, but you easily ignore that fact and have made up some nonsensical idea that things would have been worse, had you not got vaccinated. It's like if you were to jump out of an airplane-- the parachute, by design is to prevent you from free falling and dying. If it doesn't open, it doesn't do what it was designed to do.... making it a failed proposition. When you fall and smash into the ground, no one can stand up and say-- well, it would have been much worse, if I hadn't been wearing this parachute. It didn't do what it was supposed to do. It didn't prevent anything.

If you are going to be disingenuous and accuse me of things like the above then our conversation is at an end and welcome to my ignore list.

 

[Naomanos]

Mask Control: Prove COVID-19 exists...I dare you!

Not a Democrat? Do you just make stuff up?

Since you got this in before I said I am putting you on ignore, I suggest you reread that and see that he wished me and my family dead because I am a Democrat. I never said I was a Democrat. The guy said I was.

I am not a Democrat. I am a moderate independent.

 

[Mr E]

If you are going to be disingenuous and accuse me of things like the above then our conversation is at an end and welcome to my ignore list.

What-- for the tenth time?

I'll be getting my booster soon. I absolutely believe that it helped keep my Covid pneumonia from getting out of hand. As an asthmatic, it could have gotten real bad real quick!

I thank God for the vaccine!

Never boosted? If you absolutely believed it would help you--- what changed your mind?

 

[Mr E]

Since you got this in before I said I am putting you on ignore, I suggest you reread that and see that he wished me and my family dead because I am a Democrat. I never said I was a Democrat. The guy said I was.

I am not a Democrat. I am a moderate independent.

That's not true. You said the guy wished you and your family dead-- because you are a Democrat.

But you say a lot of things you later say you didn't say. Like -- "I'll be getting my booster soon."

Followed by.....

Never went for boosters.

 

[amigo de christo]

Thank you for defending truth.
Some here that are depending on evil to save them, got a poison in their bodies that is killing those that ignorantly trusted gov. leaders.

many have bowed before the ROD that is pumping them full of poison , whose hope is in men and govts .
They kneel and bow before the Rod of man . CURSED IS HE WHOSE HOPE IS IN MEN
BLESSED IS HE WHOSE HOPE BE IN THE LORD . the effects of the blessings verses the curses . many choose wrong
they will do so unto their own destruction .

 

[amigo de christo]

The difference is I explore your sources and then got the truth from facts.
You are not willing for some reason to reason out basic simple data and facts,from other sources.

Your sources are you dilemma.

you do you and i will do me is a HUGE COP OUT .
what it really means is this truth you are telling me is bothering me and i want to believe what i want to believe .
WARN THE DUDE . they do this in a lot of churches tooo .
And yet the hyprocrisy is blaring . Its just the VOICE of reason and of truth they want silenced .

 

[amigo de christo]

I used what I know works and what I had easy access too. Had nothing to do with not trusting what Fauci said and just using what was available to me and as an EMT, surgical, masks were commonplace and I could get them for free anytime I wanted.

Same with N-95s.

This whole ordeal is not absurd to me. It is real because I seen it first hand. It will never be absurd to me.

The way it all went down should concern both sides .
WHEN the voices are completely shut down there is a problem .
WHEN even well educated doctors were silenced , unable to speak a word against their unholy grail shot
THAT SHOULD have alerted BOTH SIDES .
BUT IT DIDNT .
WHEN the news spins , NOBODY WINS pard . THEY WILL COME FOR THE USEFUL IDIOTS TOO . OH YEAH
but only THEN IT WILL BE TOO LATE . HISTORY IS REPEATING . and as usual most go with the flow
even those who suspsect something might be wrong are too fearful to speak . ONCE A SOCIETY gets to that place
ITS DONE . WELL this world is DONE . YALLS beloved digital system will see to that .

 

[amigo de christo]

That's not true. You said the guy wished you and your family dead-- because you are a Democrat.

But you say a lot of things you later say you didn't say. Like -- "I'll be getting my booster soon."

Followed by.....

OOPSY . seen that too did ya . its called double speak .

 

[Naomanos]

you do you and i will do me is a HUGE COP OUT .
what it really means is SHUT THE HECK UP this truth you are telling me is bothering me and i want to believe what i want to believe .
WARN THE DUDE . they do this in a lot of churches tooo .
And yet the hyprocrisy is blaring . Its just the VOICE of reason and of truth they want silenced .

If you want to believe it is a cop-out, that is your prerogative.

I am not telling him to shut up, and I would ask you kindly to delete that from your post. If I am going to tell someone to shut up I will come right and say it not hide behind words. It also isn't bothering me what he is saying. I simply don't believe what he is saying to be true, but he has a right to voice his opinion as I have a right to voice mine, that is why you do you and I'll do me comment.

You have this habit, along with others of assuming what someone else is saying and being oh-so wrong about it. Generally, what I say I mean. In other words, let your yes be yes and your no be no.

My fiance has often wondered why I continue to post in these forums when it seems as though everyone assumes that I am something I am not, presumes to speak for me, and knows what I am thinking or meaning. My response is always because there are some good people on here that I enjoy reading their posts, good or bad, and some who don't do as I describe above. The bad is starting to really outweigh the good though.

Case in point:

YALLS beloved digital system will see to that .

It isn't my digital system and I have nothing to do with or want a digital system.

I am praying about leaving the forums since what I described above just seems to get worse. Maybe God will lead me away from here to calmer and better forums where there is true fellowship and not this constant need from others to do what I described above. This I pray for as well.